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Donegal GAA thread - 6 Like(s)
Replying To ArmaghAndProud: "Or maybe its Forker telling McGuinness what was said and how its out of order and thats why he is pointing and shouting?" Ah he's very good like that in fairness to him. Sure wasn't he only trying to get a fly off Murphy's chest during the league game.
peiledoir20 (National) - 13/05/2025 16:06:41
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Leinster Hurling Championship - 3 Like(s)
Pope I don't mean to offend but that poster has a real problem it seems with every other county..even some of the stuff posted about players and clubs in Galway is diabolical..I like posting to what I'd call genuine posters from other counties who make decent points and arguments.
I am not replying to this poster any more..best of luck for rest of year pope.
CTGAA10 (National) - 13/05/2025 12:13:11
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Donegal GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To TrueBlue35: "Of course there was an option and the reaction as severe as it was was instigated by a Donegal man. His carry on also is not a great example of sportsmanship for kids to be seeing. One wrong by him turned into a bigger wrong by Armagh but don't know what anyone expected to happen. 3 Ulster Finals in a row lost and some clown roaring in your face is a tough situation to show restraint in.
Another poster claiming "whataboutery" from others laying blame at O McFF's door... where else should it lie then?!?! Without him goading the last day there is no reaction, there is no social media furore and the only talk is of the cracking game we saw." He wasn't roaring in their face, he was a good bit away from them. Let's not change and add bits to the story now to justify him getting assaulted. Let me rephrase your final sentence - without them assaulting him there is no social media furore. By the way, the quality of that game hasn't been forgotten by anyone.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 13/05/2025 16:39:02
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Donegal GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To greatpoint: "If there was no reaction to whatever was said then nobody would even be aware anything had happened. Armagh are plenty able to get involved in verbals themselves, as evidenced during and after the game. Pearl-clutching now is a bit much." Honest to god. The blame couldn't lie with the fella throwing the punch sure. It was all involuntary on his part. The lack of responsibility in some people is amazing.
Al_Maguire (National) - 13/05/2025 16:27:11
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Donegal GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To sam2024: "That was a terrible incident and actually very uncharacteristic of the player. He served his time and it was the most gutting thing about that day for the vast majority of Armagh gaels.
You do have your blinkers on though - I would be happy to pop on here for the rest of the season to highlight other county's misdemeanors in the interest of balance, but would prefer to focus on the football.
For the record, Armagh supporters don't think it's ok to be involved in brawls or sledging and there's no excuse for anything outside the ethos of our game. Our discipline definitely needed to improve and we won an AI by being exemplary last year. Hopefully we get back to that.
And, for the record, we're all angels compared to what went on the 80's & 90's!!lol" Sat in the middle of plenty Armagh fans at the game great supporters really getting behind their team. A game that could have easily went Armaghs way. Only OMCFf can know why he acted so stupidly, no need for it. I Don't blame the Armagh lads for reacting. It all blew over very quickly , time for everyone to move on!
totalrecall (National) - 13/05/2025 20:38:01
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Leitrim GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To martinjoe: "What do match going supporters in Leitrim make of the current management team? Do they accept that this is a 5 year project as Stephen has said, or do they believe a homegrown manager would get more out of the team. Finally, is the general consensus among Leitrim supporters, that the current management will be retained even if the team were to lose the remaining 2 fixtures?" This a 5 year project if not more like 10 years. Stephen is doing a fine job it's not him or his management team that is the problem. Jim McGuinness, Jim Gavin or Mick O'Dwyer in their pomp wouldn't be getting anymore out of this team.
This is Leitrim's problem - blame the manager. The actual problem is that the quality of player available to the manager is horrendous, and amongst the lowest in the country. Our club scene is a disgrace with clubs going through the motions. Our clubs, every year, in Connacht fall at the first hurdle. Our senior champ is at a level and standard of junior champs in other counties. The player being developed in Leitrim is so far behind other Connacht counties that when they meet in inter county or inter county club games our players are shown to be way off.
Our players are slower, not as physically developed, less intelligent on the ball and less skillfull than other counties players.
Now you can blame Poacher all you want but anyone else in his role could not do better.. Yes, OK there are better players that could be playing for Leitrim but again these players are older, extremely limited and just paper over more cracks. I believe Poacher came in examined the situation and said - right I'm up **** creek here but there is a decent U20'ish team here so let's focus on them, develop them and hope in a few years we can compete.
Leitrim need an overhaul at club level badly. At underage too. When our clubs can compete and challenge for Connacht titles that's when I think we will see real progress and we are miles away from that right now.
leitrim4sam (National) - 13/05/2025 15:20:05
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Our first 6 championship matches this year will be Derry, Monaghan, down, armagh, Tyrone and cavan. 6 different Ulster teams in a row. It's some Ulster championship for Donegal this year!!!
Ulsterchamps_32 (National) - 13/05/2025 18:39:55
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Leitrim GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To leitrim4sam: "This a 5 year project if not more like 10 years. Stephen is doing a fine job it's not him or his management team that is the problem. Jim McGuinness, Jim Gavin or Mick O'Dwyer in their pomp wouldn't be getting anymore out of this team.
This is Leitrim's problem - blame the manager. The actual problem is that the quality of player available to the manager is horrendous, and amongst the lowest in the country. Our club scene is a disgrace with clubs going through the motions. Our clubs, every year, in Connacht fall at the first hurdle. Our senior champ is at a level and standard of junior champs in other counties. The player being developed in Leitrim is so far behind other Connacht counties that when they meet in inter county or inter county club games our players are shown to be way off.
Our players are slower, not as physically developed, less intelligent on the ball and less skillfull than other counties players.
Now you can blame Poacher all you want but anyone else in his role could not do better.. Yes, OK there are better players that could be playing for Leitrim but again these players are older, extremely limited and just paper over more cracks. I believe Poacher came in examined the situation and said - right I'm up **** creek here but there is a decent U20'ish team here so let's focus on them, develop them and hope in a few years we can compete.
Leitrim need an overhaul at club level badly. At underage too. When our clubs can compete and challenge for Connacht titles that's when I think we will see real progress and we are miles away from that right now." A lot of this is true, but I take issue with Poacher. I was prepared to give him a chance given he had a track record of sorts etc however you do not conceed games, no matter what, and for that alone, he should have stepped down. It's well known by now that certain players were prepared to step up to see that the game was fulfilled. I cannot overlook this regardless of what happens in the future.
Square_B (National) - 13/05/2025 16:57:40
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Attendances 2025 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Outdoor basketball without a shot clock though, which is where most of the boredom can set in imo. I'm sure traditionalists aren't at all pleasured either by these horrible 2or3 minute keepball routines to run down the end of game clock past the 'hooter'. Must have a sort of death row feel those last few minutes for losing fans, compared to the excitement of waiting for the final whistle back in the harum scarum days, when lads weren't drilled to death on the value and understanding of possession." I don't know one person who has a problem with the new clock system . Not one player or coach. Why do we always care so much for the lads on the couch who are never happy anyway.
TheFlaker (National) - 13/05/2025 16:45:25
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Fermanagh GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Good to see some debate on the county team, unfortunately seems to be more comments when things are going negatively which sadly is case at moment and is reflective of the world.
abc1234 - as highlighted before this is an open forum for people to share their views, we can all agree that no player takes to the field purposely to make mistakes, the commitment levels required for intercounty football are clear for all to see, the sacrifices made to put on the jersey takes great pride and incredible effort, nobody questions that.
I was certainly very disappointed after Sundays game, think unless from Carlow all in same boat.
To say my comment about team looking lethargic as "disrespectful" is bit extreme, below is Kieran Donnellys post game comments, in which himself publicly states lacked intensity and aggression, so think anyone at the game could see that, not point pretending otherwise.
"It was really disappointing; we just weren't on it. They started really well and any time they attacked they seemed to get their shot away.It is sometimes hard to know where you are at, but we felt we had prepared well and played well against Cavan in a challenge game, but there is no doubt that we didn't bring the same level of intensity or aggression"
Regarding management, i certainly not naïve to say players from county panel should be dropped after not getting on pitch in one game, my opinion is based on the season to date, that substitutions have been made sparingly and at times, made very late in the game.
Here is breakdown of subs this year
Kildare 5 subs
Antrim 2 Subs
Clare 2 Subs(one a blood sub)
Sligo 4 Subs
Offaly 3 Subs
Laois 4 subs
Down 3 Subs
Carlow 3 Subs( 2 of which in last 3 minutes)
The Kildare game only time used 5 subs, 3 of which were Kelm, Che Cullen and Lyons,all starters if fit, so if had started likely 2/3 subs max here also. Given the new rules this year most managers are using 4/5 subs per game given extra physical demands so thats why its a bit strange, if players on panel that wont bring on it questions why selected.
The depth in quality possibly isnt in Fermanagh that was there 5/6 years ago, which certainly isnt managements fault and the lack of changes during may be the reflection of this.
On sunday only used 3 subs, 2 of which in the last 3 minutes so basically no time to impact game. If not going to bring players on at home to Carlow in a game which team is really underperforming then in what scenario would you use those players on the bench then?
Fermanagh have used only 24 players so far between league and championship(including 2 keepers), there is no doubt options are limited, Callum Jones and Conor McShea have been big losses in the forward areas.(rightfully exploring world at their age)
Jacob 86 - Yes certainly Louth benefitted from investing in top management in Harte/Devlin(who still involved in their coach development) and now in Brennan, however their success at Minor and under 20s nothing to do with having top senior manager and if want sustainable success then need to evaluate what we are doing in clubs/development squads. For years St Michaels was helping the county set-up with success and filtering talent through but that has stopped now.
In fairness Fermanagh county board has pulled out the stops on many occasion to get big name managers involved in the senior team, Liam McHale, Malachy O Rourke, Peter Canavan, Pete McGrath, Ryan McMenamin and Rory Gallagher, all of which certainly made positive impacts but still no trophies so a high profile name isnt all we need in a quick fix approach, we need more than this to develop and compete better across the board. There is no doubt having a strong management team at senior level is crucial but need skillset and talent being developed from 16 through to senior.
Results at underage have been ringing alarm bells for a while so time to review and implement a plan over 5-10 years.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results.
Ernedevil - Yes agree very slow in decision making on the ball and side to side at times(against Down much quicker and direct) only kicked the ball once into forward line and cant remember any turnovers made. Certainly stood way off Carlow and made 2 pointers easy, 5 is clear proof of that. The lack of speed at the back was certainly exploited on numerous occasions.
Anyone any idea why Johnny Cassidy wasnt there on Sunday?? (no word of injury and early to travel to states)Certainly missed his speed, him and Luke Flanagan back on pitch would certainly help.
Lets hope get a reaction on Sunday away to Longford, who will famcy their chances in Pearse Park
macca999 (National) - 13/05/2025 20:23:01
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TrueBlue35: "Your blind defence of your own player is admirable in many ways." Nothing blind about it. If he goaded them, he was wrong. But he wasn't in their faces so can you correct that, he was a fair bit away from them. You seem quite keen to absolve the lads for assaulting a lad.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 13/05/2025 20:57:33
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TrueBlue35: "You're not comparing apples with apples there at all. And it's nothing to do with being the "hard man" I simply said that if a lad is acting that way then he has to deal with whatever comes his way. I also said I don't condone the Armagh reaction but I'm also not surprised by it. I've said emotions are on a knife edge directly after the final whistle. You throw petrol on a flame then you just might get burned." Dead right Trueblue 35
brayballer (National) - 13/05/2025 21:47:49
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "Nothing blind about it. If he goaded them, he was wrong. But he wasn't in their faces so can you correct that, he was a fair bit away from them. You seem quite keen to absolve the lads for assaulting a lad." The Donegal player was unsporting and childish and no point in trying to defend that carryon.Donegal well able to whinge about Dubs playing in croke park and whinge about Armagh but when someone points the finger at them its wrong.
brayballer (National) - 13/05/2025 21:51:47
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Ulsterchamps_32: "If you take the 10 years before crossmaglen Donegal had a terrible record against Armagh. We lost three Ulster finals, an all Ireland semi and two other replayed matches in Ulster. We luckily won in 2007 against an Armagh when they were passed their best and it didn't matter as Tyrone hammered us in the semi. The constant losing to Armagh still sits with me as does not winning an Ulster title in that era. There were a whole host of good Donegal footballers who played in that era and won nothing. I guess that sits with mcGuinness as well and why he emphasisises Ulster so much. And if all Ireland is your ultimate goal you can argue there is too much priority. There is a decent enough chance that the unfair system could easily bite Donegal. Injury, fatigue, the one week break between first and second match. Cavan and mayo get two weeks between all games.Tyrone lying in the wrong grass. The overall tough group. Even if we don't push on It won't take the memory and happiness of winning or seeing the emotion of Michael Murphy with his dad. It meant an awful lot.
I think Armagh are overall better than last year. Rafferty is better in goal. Conaty is getting better. Jarly og is flying as is mcquiilan and you have loads of strength in depth. You are also really big and strong team around the middle. Donegal still should have win in normal time and thought we would not do it in et but the players (actually players on both side) showed great resolve and we just got there. A bit like ourselves the first group game is crucial." I couldn't believe the simple scores donegal missed in et even the free before pmcb came back on.. just felt like we would do it grugan miss was crucial and then yous punished it straight away with a goal. We just couldn't get the 2 points ahead.. I actually really like donegal I know there is a bit of niggle but still find it healthy.. mcfadden fury bit uncalled for if he did say them things don't even mind the roaring but if he did say things not good. But all gaa teams have assholes who play on their team...I certainly hope yous beat tyrone lol
An I would like another game with yous later on. I think we could be better depending on what levels rian and mckay can get too. In et when grugan mcquillan went off we were hanging.. o'neill murnin and crealy too.
cds (National) - 13/05/2025 23:04:44
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Leitrim GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To gaelsboy: "Do we need 2 wins/ win and a draw now for a shot at the last 12? or are we gonzo?" Oh the quicker the year is over the better- it has been a shambles from start to finish.
bláthach (National) - 13/05/2025 12:40:19
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Galway Hurling thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To The_DOC: "He's been on a few podcasts and things stating thats his role and the role of any underage manager is not ENTIRLEY to win championships, its to develop players through so they are as ready as possible to kick on at the next grade up. Im not defending him or anything and it prob lys somewhere in the middle of developing young talent, winning when the right group of players come together but essentially acting as a conveyor belt of talent progression for the senior squad." If I had the track record he has as an IC underage manager I wouldn't be stressing the importance of 'winning championships' either. I'd be keeping very, very quiet about that part.
But when you look more closely at the facts of the matter they don't make for magnificent reading.
He had two years as minor manager, lost an AISF to Tipperary, won a Leinster MHC, lost an AIF we were piping hot favourites for and he got absolutely schooled by Brendan Bugler on the line that day. He had Aaron Niland both years.
Last year at U20, we were dreadful against Offaly the first day out and somehow escaped with a draw from the jaws of defeat. We beat Dublin comfortably (with Niland), then played them 5 weeks later (without Niland) and got an absolute battering where a 10+ margin in the end didn't flatter Dublin in the slightest. He was schooled on the line that day also.
Now one imagines that Healy has ambitions to be senior manager one day, as he should or he has no business being in the U20 job, but if we were to lose tonight, that would be two years in a row, and with a team formed from 'his' minor players, would have bowed out of the U20 championship without even making a Leinster Final. With all due respect, losing to Dublin for two years in a row at U20 would be unpalatable to me. Particularly as the Dublin team that walloped us lost the Leinster final to Offaly last year.
Now I don't know about you, but if this transpires this evening, it's hard to make a case that these players are collectively 'developing' in any positive direction under him. This is why tonight is huge for him personally.
They may win tonight and go on to do great things in this year's competition and if so, great. But this is the flip side. Because you simply can't parrot the 'player development' claim if you aren't involved in competitions at the sharp end consistently. Nobody is being developed by getting knocked out in Leinster by Dublin.
Stool Pigeon (National) - 14/05/2025 10:31:09
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Louth GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Well done Louth, delighted for ye a great GAA county ,manys a great battle we had against ye in Drogheda, Ardee and Dowdallshill over the years, met some great supporters who doubted a day like Sunday would ever come. Well ye put a lot of heartache to rest on Sunday and really hope ye push on now and do well in the All ireland series.
JimmyNail (National) - 13/05/2025 13:41:23
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Louth GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Ollie2: "Sunday 11th of May 2025 is officially the best day of my life. I hope the better half does not read this. This is a day that I thought I would never see. I had tears of joy when the hooter went. Craig Lennon what a player. He is some warrior and he just loves playing against Meath. I thought once Costello had scored for Meath that they would win. But fair play to Louth. They never gave up and dug deep. The Wee County famine is finally over. There are a good few Louth gaels that have passed away and sadly did not get the chance to see this day. Hopefully wee won't have to wait 68 more years for the next one. What's rare is wonderful and by God I'm gonna enjoy this. Thank you to Ger, Sam and the whole Louth team that just proves anything is possible if you put your mind to it. I am a very happy and proud Louth man." Well put. Likewise as a true gael that was simply the best day/weekend of my life and the fact that not only me but my 3 young boys witnessed history. I have being saying it on the lead up to the final that wee will win should our many leaders step up to the plate when needs be and stepped up they did, in particular Kiki Keenan who to me is underrated, what an impact he made coming off the bench having being injured what an exceptional footballer he is. The spectacle as a whole was incredible where else in the world would you get it. So there we have it am louth and proud to say WEE ARE KINGS OF LEINSTER and here's hoping we stay there for many a year to come. Huge congrats to Ger, the players and the backroom team in making this day happen.
francie81 (National) - 13/05/2025 13:25:29
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To brayballer: "The Donegal player was unsporting and childish and no point in trying to defend that carryon.Donegal well able to whinge about Dubs playing in croke park and whinge about Armagh but when someone points the finger at them its wrong." The only ballers in Bray are hurlers and soccer players. Stick to what you know lad.
themaddog (National) - 14/05/2025 08:02:52
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To cds: "I do think donegal probably have armaghs number. Well maybe jim has mcgeeney number don't think geezer has ever beat him. Tbf the only actual ful blown games between armagh and donegal have been the 2 ulster finals. Yous won by 1 which I feel another day some of our goals go in an different game. But equally doesn't mean we win as we could rest on our laurels like yous done. I just think there isn't anything between the teams. The rest of the games 3 league games an div 2 final was shadow boxing. Just my view..." Listen I totally agree with that. Two fantastic teams and very little if anything between them. Was just replying to the Mayo lad saying Armagh were "much better" and he's gone silent since that stat was thrown his way, that's all it was. Armagh are a brilliant team and anyone I chat to in the county feels exactly the same. Great chat last night between Stephen McDonnell, Kevin Cassidy and Brendan Devenney on the DL debate and the sense of respect was on full display.
Donegal_abroad (National) - 13/05/2025 13:00:29
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