any chance of his red being rescinded , thought it was very very harsh red card

stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 24/08/2014 17:16:03    1641172

Harsh, but technically correct. Very little being made, though, about the fist in the stomach that caused Keegan to retaliate, or the gamesmanship by Walsh to get him sent off.

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 24/08/2014 17:18:57    1641177

If its in the rules that a kick is a red card then what are you on about?

One of the most black and white incidents you'll see.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1421 - 24/08/2014 17:23:44    1641184

He kicked the man. Redcard according to the rules.

Maigh Eo Abú!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7391 - 24/08/2014 17:26:21    1641186

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He kicked the man. Redcard according to the rules.

Maigh Eo Abú!



He actually missed but will still be done for the "attempt to kick".

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 24/08/2014 17:33:41    1641193

Very harsh red card.The slightest non kick that hardly made contact.Maybe under the ruling it was a red,but there should be a rule for common sense.So if he lashed out and broke his opponents leg he would get the same punishment?I think the rule has to change here,where a petulant slap or throw of the leg,without any danger or malice,should warrant a yellow card.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 24/08/2014 17:33:42    1641194

No argument - straight red, if you don't like it, change the rules.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4903 - 24/08/2014 17:41:25    1641205

"but there should be a rule for common sense"

This concept will get a lot of air but ask anyone how to phrase the rule and you will draw blank. One persons definition of common sense is completely different to someone else's . Common sense is, you are in an AI semi final - don't kick or try to kick a player.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 24/08/2014 17:53:28    1641218

Should mayo win would he be back for the final or is it a one month ban?

Tizcold (Galway) - Posts: 239 - 24/08/2014 17:58:06    1641226

Harsh red.

Ref more than made up for it though I thought.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13725 - 24/08/2014 18:02:21    1641231

Definite red card. Michael Lyster read out the rule at HT and there could be no doubt it was a red card.

BUT....you can see why people might think it's harsh. There was a kicking action from Keegan but in the traditional sense of kicking, it was harmless. Put it this way if he kicked a football the way he kicked the Kerry man it would have dribbled off the side of his foot.

We do get red cards like this all the time so players should be well aware that any attempts, however harmless, will be dealt it with red cards.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 24/08/2014 18:03:59    1641233

Rules are rules. We are all giving out about inconsistencies of refs when it comes to big calls, and are quick to jump on them if they dont do it by the book. This is the risk you run when you break the rules. I do feel a bit sorry for him, as there are infinitely more dangerous tackles thrown about that go unpunished.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 24/08/2014 18:04:43    1641235

O'Rourke on RTE kept saying he shouldnt have been sent off because it wasnt the spirit of the game and nobody had thrown a nasty dig in the game. he seems to suggest the rule book is ignored if the overall spirit of the game is god. So does that mean if someone is truck in the face dont send him off as it hasnt been the spirit of the game?He kicked out he hadt go.

Traleenative (Kerry) - Posts: 44 - 24/08/2014 18:09:11    1641244

Definite red, intent was there.

HEREBENJI (Donegal) - Posts: 422 - 24/08/2014 18:11:35    1641249

Technically a correct decision but what about the punch from the Kerry player just before the kick? I thought punching was included in the rule but it seems the referee can read players minds regarding "intent" All a bit "Irish" to my mind.

RoyalBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 198 - 24/08/2014 18:28:06    1641268

So Traleenative you would agree that the Kerry Goalie should have got a black card and Mayo a penalty in the first half You know sense rules are black and white Also Walsh's punch on Keegan that lead to the red card There was a lot in the game where the ref didn't use the rule book Common Sense should prevail Over all I'd give the ref a 7 out of 10 But he got the 2 big decisions wrong

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 24/08/2014 18:28:52    1641270

stone-wall red!!!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 24/08/2014 19:00:31    1641305

Arock is spot on. The only way to ref a game is by the rules. Those appealing for 'common sense' have a valid concern, but to allow for the use of discretion by refs requires a change in the rules. Perhaps the way around it is to word the playing rules differently- something allowing for the seriousness of the foul action. The suspensions for the offences do allow for this but the sanctions on the field of play don't.
For example, Keegan's action today was a red card but ideally should be punishable by yellow. We all know it's a different type if foul to a guy punching another in the face but yet they both command the same red card as per the rules. Likewise in hurling - what constitutes a strike? Benny Dunne on Tommy Walsh in the All-Ireland was a strike, but so is a careless, mistimed tap on the back of the helmet. The rules should allow for both level of intent and the level of possible injury inflicted.

As things stand, the rules don't allow for differentiation, therefore Lee Keegan should have been sent off.

On a side note, as of 7pm on Sunday, one thing I haven't heard mentioned by anyone yet is the effect of a replay on Keegan's suspension. My take on it now is that he should be available for the final if Mayo get there, as he will have served a one game and 4 week suspension by then, his one game now being the replay instead of the final itself had Mayo won?

barrnasraide (Carlow) - Posts: 49 - 24/08/2014 19:03:05    1641309

The "punch" could be seen as an attempt to dislodge the ball from the opponent's hand. Kick was a straight red, those like O'Rourke talking about the spirit of the game are talking nonsense. Refs have enough to do without trying to measure "spirit of the game ".

jerryp (Cork) - Posts: 104 - 24/08/2014 19:04:58    1641310

If we ever get to the stage were every physical contact in GAA is adhered to by the rule book then I will stop watching and guess what guys so will you cause you wont like what your seeing , times like this theres always one know it all will spout chapter this rule that , appendix this , hes the gobshite thats never played the game , red card YES but I defy anyone to say CORECT decision .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 24/08/2014 19:17:42    1641322