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Replying To bloodandbandage: "I'd agree with you on the KK v Clare matches, definitely a better barometer. I'm heading to Parnell Park on Saturday and really looking forward to what should be a tight entertaining game. I'm giving a very tentative nod to the Dubs and that's purely based on home advantage. If Chin is nullified (very difficult thing to do), you'd have to fear for Wexford." Think Dublin will go route one next Saturday after seeing the trouble it caused us last year .Hope Liam Ryan is therefore available for us. If chinner and Rory O'Connor hurl well think we'll win. Also Donal Burke and Danny sutcliffe must be doubts and would be huge losses to Dublin HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 532 - 22/04/2025 16:23:45 2603679 Link
Replying To bloodandbandage: "I'd agree with you on the KK v Clare matches, definitely a better barometer. I'm heading to Parnell Park on Saturday and really looking forward to what should be a tight entertaining game. I'm giving a very tentative nod to the Dubs and that's purely based on home advantage. If Chin is nullified (very difficult thing to do), you'd have to fear for Wexford." In fairness the stats for the last number of meetings indicate there'll be nothing in it. We last beat them in 18, drew last year, I think two point win for the dubs in 23. They are always close affairs Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3512 - 22/04/2025 17:08:39 2603700 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Why? We were 3rd last year in Leinster and were level with Clare, who finished second in Munster on head to head from 1st place, into the second half until they had an extra man. And we were playing our 2nd game in 6 days. Clare had had a fortnight off and were way fresher than we were. They also had a fully fit panel while we were missing key lads injured. I was also at the Dublin Cork game, and had that gone on for another few minutes Dublin mightve won. They were also missing Cian Sullivan who was one of their best forwards when we played them. There certainly wasn't a gulf between them." Viking, I tend to generally agree with you but lets be real here, that Dublin Cork game was over after 25 minutes. It was a challenge game thereafter. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1317 - 22/04/2025 18:08:19 2603716 Link
Replying To Viking66: "If there was a transfer market for GAA players, who would you replace on our team with the lad playing the corresponding position on yours? On current form?" Mark Fanning, Liam Ryan, Daithi Burke, Darren Morrissey, Padraic Mannion, Damien Reck, Fintan Burke, Tom Monaghan, Conor Hearne, Cathal Mannion, Lee Chin, Rory O'Connor, Cian Byrne, Conor Whelan, Declan McLoughlin If everyone is fit and have a full pick of both panels, and that is a big if for both teams, we combined the two teams this probably the 15 that I would pick based on how'd it work together. It's a very good team but maybe to show how far both teams are away from an all Ireland I'm still not sure if they'd beat Limerick or Cork in an all Ireland series. Irrelevant thing but is fun to do. Maybe to make a combined Leinster team v a combined Munster team? It's a bit of fun anyways. Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 304 - 22/04/2025 20:56:23 2603748 Link
Leinster combined 15 Eoin Murphy, Mikey Butler, Huw Lawlor, Daithi Burke, Paddy Deegan, Damien Reck, David Blanchfield, Cian Kenny, Conor Hearne, TJ Reid, Lee Chin, Cathal Mannion, Conor Whelan, Eoin Cody, Donal Burke. Munster combined 15 Nickie Quaid, Adam Hogan, Ronan Maher , Barry Nash, Kyle Hayes, Rob Downey, Diarmuid Byrnes, Will O'Donoghue, Cian Lynch, Tony Kelly, Darragh Fitzgibbon, Dessie Hutchinson , Aaron Gillane, Shane O'Donnell, Alan Connolly. A little bit of form but a lot of what lads have done in the recent past and don't show any reason not to be picked. Equal enough bar midfield, it's one area across Leinster where there isn't a huge pile of top level quality. Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 304 - 22/04/2025 21:23:57 2603751 Link
Replying To bloodandbandage: "A lad give it a rest. You keep referencing this Cork v Dublin game as a barometer when comparing Munster v Leinster. Cork were shocking that day and still won. I understand you're a passionate Wexford man, but most of your posts are riddled with excuses as to why Wexford were poor, or didn't win, etc. etc. Every team has hard luck stories, and every team has injuries - the good teams deal with it and don't use it as an excuse. I'll be in Parnell Park this Saturday, and can't wait to see how good your team really are..." We didn't win games we weren't good enough to win on the day. Our current team is ok. There are young lads starting who are improving every day. I don't think we are excellent, but on our day we aren't bad either. We aren't consistent. Our best players have very rarely been on the pitch at the same time since 2019. We could still get relegated, or still win Leinster. That's the true story of being a Wexford supporter. ;-) Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 22/04/2025 21:36:44 2603756 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "Viking, I tend to generally agree with you but lets be real here, that Dublin Cork game was over after 25 minutes. It was a challenge game thereafter." Shhhhhh..... :-D Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 22/04/2025 21:38:03 2603757 Link
Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Mark Fanning, Liam Ryan, Daithi Burke, Darren Morrissey, Padraic Mannion, Damien Reck, Fintan Burke, Tom Monaghan, Conor Hearne, Cathal Mannion, Lee Chin, Rory O'Connor, Cian Byrne, Conor Whelan, Declan McLoughlin If everyone is fit and have a full pick of both panels, and that is a big if for both teams, we combined the two teams this probably the 15 that I would pick based on how'd it work together. It's a very good team but maybe to show how far both teams are away from an all Ireland I'm still not sure if they'd beat Limerick or Cork in an all Ireland series. Irrelevant thing but is fun to do. Maybe to make a combined Leinster team v a combined Munster team? It's a bit of fun anyways." A good experienced combined team that. I might swap Morrissey for Shane Reck, but apart from that I'd probably go for the same team. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 22/04/2025 21:43:56 2603759 Link
Replying To Bon: "Should be the top 4 teams in munster and two finalists from leinster that get through to the all ireland series." No 4th from Munster and 4th from Leinster should playoff and take the place of the losers from Joe Mc final. Crazy to think that the losers from the Joe Mc get through to All Ireland series. The Munster council won't go for this though as it would water down the Munster championship. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2696 - 22/04/2025 21:48:56 2603762 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "No 4th from Munster and 4th from Leinster should playoff and take the place of the losers from Joe Mc final. Crazy to think that the losers from the Joe Mc get through to All Ireland series. The Munster council won't go for this though as it would water down the Munster championship." Would be farcical to have four teams from each qualifying. They are both great competitions, hugely contested the way they are. Leave them be. I do agree with not having McDonagh teams in play offs. Promotion should be reward for winner and maybe even loser of final. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3437 - 22/04/2025 22:30:26 2603771 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "No 4th from Munster and 4th from Leinster should playoff and take the place of the losers from Joe Mc final. Crazy to think that the losers from the Joe Mc get through to All Ireland series. The Munster council won't go for this though as it would water down the Munster championship." It would also mean adding another weekend to the championship calendar which there just isn't space for. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1544 - 22/04/2025 22:34:17 2603772 Link
Replying To Bon: "Should be the top 4 teams in munster and two finalists from leinster that get through to the all ireland series." i.e., play ten matches to eliminate just one team....really???? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2819 - 22/04/2025 23:59:16 2603787 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "It would also mean adding another weekend to the championship calendar which there just isn't space for." How would it? The same number of games would be played. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 23/04/2025 08:59:31 2603796 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "No 4th from Munster and 4th from Leinster should playoff and take the place of the losers from Joe Mc final. Crazy to think that the losers from the Joe Mc get through to All Ireland series. The Munster council won't go for this though as it would water down the Munster championship." I would stick to the current structure but I agree on the Joe Mac. Winners and runners up shouldnt enter the All Ireland series unless given a 2 week break after the final. Im hoping we have a really competitive Leinster championship this year and somehow start to bridge the gap with Munster Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 519 - 23/04/2025 09:30:00 2603801 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "How would it? The same number of games would be played." Because if replacing the McDonagh losers, that 4th v 4th game would only qualify the winner for the preliminary quarter final. So that's an extra round/week needed. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1544 - 23/04/2025 11:29:10 2603830 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "No 4th from Munster and 4th from Leinster should playoff and take the place of the losers from Joe Mc final. Crazy to think that the losers from the Joe Mc get through to All Ireland series. The Munster council won't go for this though as it would water down the Munster championship." Well you can't have your cake and eat it like you seem to want. Why would anybody care about 20+ matches to eliminate 1 team? If anything, there should be 2 out of each province, not 4. These things are cyclical. All it will take is for a drop-off of 1 or 2 teams in Munster and it is all change. FWIW, I do see merit in knock-out provincials and then round robin groupings from there on but the league would have to take a hit to absorb it. But this stupid suggestion comes up every year. Munster is stronger at the moment as my Tipp girlfriend reminds me every weekend but come up with a structure which gives developing counties like Offaly, Antrim, Kildare, etc a chance to progress and then come back to us, not just suit yourselves. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1814 - 23/04/2025 11:42:46 2603835 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "Well you can't have your cake and eat it like you seem to want. Why would anybody care about 20+ matches to eliminate 1 team? If anything, there should be 2 out of each province, not 4. These things are cyclical. All it will take is for a drop-off of 1 or 2 teams in Munster and it is all change. FWIW, I do see merit in knock-out provincials and then round robin groupings from there on but the league would have to take a hit to absorb it. But this stupid suggestion comes up every year. Munster is stronger at the moment as my Tipp girlfriend reminds me every weekend but come up with a structure which gives developing counties like Offaly, Antrim, Kildare, etc a chance to progress and then come back to us, not just suit yourselves." Munster counties care about nobody other than suiting themselves. Any championship structure change will impact the gate receipts and that will be happening over their dead bodies. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1317 - 23/04/2025 12:15:28 2603842 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "Because if replacing the McDonagh losers, that 4th v 4th game would only qualify the winner for the preliminary quarter final. So that's an extra round/week needed." Just to be clear - it would add an extra match, but wouldn't add an extra week to the time needed to run the championship. Take last year as an example: - Group stages in the provinces finished on weekend of May 25 & 26. - June Bank Holiday weekend was free. - Provincial finals & Joe McDonagh Cup Final took place on weekend of June 8 & 9 - Preliminary quarter-finals took place on June 15. So, the 4th v 4th playoff could have been on either the June Bank Holiday, or the weekend of the provincial finals & Joe McDonagh Cup Final. It would be a "hard sell" however on finals weekend, so the Bank Holiday weekend would probably be the better choice. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2819 - 23/04/2025 14:30:52 2603869 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "Well you can't have your cake and eat it like you seem to want. Why would anybody care about 20+ matches to eliminate 1 team? If anything, there should be 2 out of each province, not 4. These things are cyclical. All it will take is for a drop-off of 1 or 2 teams in Munster and it is all change. FWIW, I do see merit in knock-out provincials and then round robin groupings from there on but the league would have to take a hit to absorb it. But this stupid suggestion comes up every year. Munster is stronger at the moment as my Tipp girlfriend reminds me every weekend but come up with a structure which gives developing counties like Offaly, Antrim, Kildare, etc a chance to progress and then come back to us, not just suit yourselves." I was going to use that exact phrase of having cake and eating it too. On the one hand, people talk about the brilliance of the Munster Championship because there's so much riding on every single result. And they're right. Am not suggesting otherwise. But move to a system where four out of five teams go through, and you instantly lose the majority of that jeopardy. You can't have it both ways. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2819 - 23/04/2025 14:32:34 2603870 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Just to be clear - it would add an extra match, but wouldn't add an extra week to the time needed to run the championship. Take last year as an example: - Group stages in the provinces finished on weekend of May 25 & 26. - June Bank Holiday weekend was free. - Provincial finals & Joe McDonagh Cup Final took place on weekend of June 8 & 9 - Preliminary quarter-finals took place on June 15. So, the 4th v 4th playoff could have been on either the June Bank Holiday, or the weekend of the provincial finals & Joe McDonagh Cup Final. It would be a "hard sell" however on finals weekend, so the Bank Holiday weekend would probably be the better choice." Fair enough you are correct, an extra round needed but not an extra week. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1544 - 23/04/2025 15:57:31 2603889 Link