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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Go and educate yourself a bit. Antrim had no control over the Casement project. It came from a lot higher powers than Antrim GAA. You just sound like that other troll from the UK at this stage."
Ahem.

Antrim had control over Casement Park for all the years it stood there, just as Wexford have control of Wexford Park, Kilkenny have control of Nowlan Park, Dublin have control of Parnell Park, etc.

As previously stated, the great pity is that over the course of decades, they allowed Casement to become so rundown and dilapidated that a full demolition and rebuild was deemed necessary.

Yes, Ulster GAA got ambitious with that plan. But if Antrim had maintained a decent 15,000 to 20,000 stadium throughout, then Ulster GAA wouldn't have eyed the site up in that way in the first place - no more than Leinster GAA would come knocking tomorrow with a plan to demolish Wexford Park and build a 34,000-seater stadium there instead.

Antrim GAA are the architects of their own misfortune in all of this, and that's plain to see to anybody who can look at this objectively, instead of continuously playing victim.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2800 - 14/03/2025 11:49:33    2596344

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Ahem.

Antrim had control over Casement Park for all the years it stood there, just as Wexford have control of Wexford Park, Kilkenny have control of Nowlan Park, Dublin have control of Parnell Park, etc.

As previously stated, the great pity is that over the course of decades, they allowed Casement to become so rundown and dilapidated that a full demolition and rebuild was deemed necessary.

Yes, Ulster GAA got ambitious with that plan. But if Antrim had maintained a decent 15,000 to 20,000 stadium throughout, then Ulster GAA wouldn't have eyed the site up in that way in the first place - no more than Leinster GAA would come knocking tomorrow with a plan to demolish Wexford Park and build a 34,000-seater stadium there instead.

Antrim GAA are the architects of their own misfortune in all of this, and that's plain to see to anybody who can look at this objectively, instead of continuously playing victim."
Wexford just stick two fingers up to their provincial council and play where they want, do they? Antrim GAA followed the same orders that would be given to any county in Leinster if there was a be stadium being built on the same site. Nobody is playing victim, all anyone tried to do was highlight the different elements to what is going on in Belfast with this project. Even after constantly highlighting these factors, people like yourself just want to gloss over what you like and claim to be objective while putting the entire blame on Antrim GAA. If that's the level you're at then you're either extremely naive or like I said, just another troll.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 14/03/2025 13:15:26    2596349

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Wexford just stick two fingers up to their provincial council and play where they want, do they? Antrim GAA followed the same orders that would be given to any county in Leinster if there was a be stadium being built on the same site. Nobody is playing victim, all anyone tried to do was highlight the different elements to what is going on in Belfast with this project. Even after constantly highlighting these factors, people like yourself just want to gloss over what you like and claim to be objective while putting the entire blame on Antrim GAA. If that's the level you're at then you're either extremely naive or like I said, just another troll."
Oh right, I see. Funny enough Antrim GAA are now prepared to disobey Ulster Council by insisting the game be played at Corrigan Park but just quietly accepted the closure of Casement Park 10 odd years ago. That's makes sense, case closed your honor.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1238 - 14/03/2025 13:39:02    2596352

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Wexford just stick two fingers up to their provincial council and play where they want, do they? Antrim GAA followed the same orders that would be given to any county in Leinster if there was a be stadium being built on the same site. Nobody is playing victim, all anyone tried to do was highlight the different elements to what is going on in Belfast with this project. Even after constantly highlighting these factors, people like yourself just want to gloss over what you like and claim to be objective while putting the entire blame on Antrim GAA. If that's the level you're at then you're either extremely naive or like I said, just another troll."
Your posts, or at least significant elements of them, are becoming increasingly ludicrous.

No provincial council would order that a decent and properly-maintained county ground must be torn down and rebuilt into a venue for provincial finals. Fact remains that if Antrim had maintained Casement properly up to 2014, they wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

That's as objective as can be. Meanwhile, you continue to put the blame on everybody else, which is the very definition of playing victim.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2800 - 14/03/2025 13:49:47    2596354

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Replying To Square_B:  "Oh right, I see. Funny enough Antrim GAA are now prepared to disobey Ulster Council by insisting the game be played at Corrigan Park but just quietly accepted the closure of Casement Park 10 odd years ago. That's makes sense, case closed your honor."
Antrim were drawn at home and want their home game which has been suffice for league matches so should be fine for the Ulster championship, its a wee bit different from trying to prevent a bloody stadium rebuild by continuing to host matches without permission from HQ, as the info at the time was that they were breaking ground soon, several times. If you can't figure that one out they shouldn't even let you in the courtroom Baldrick.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 14/03/2025 15:45:12    2596370

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Your posts, or at least significant elements of them, are becoming increasingly ludicrous.

No provincial council would order that a decent and properly-maintained county ground must be torn down and rebuilt into a venue for provincial finals. Fact remains that if Antrim had maintained Casement properly up to 2014, they wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

That's as objective as can be. Meanwhile, you continue to put the blame on everybody else, which is the very definition of playing victim."
Your objective thinking is based solely on assumptions and speculation. Unless you're claiming to have bugged a few offices and phone lines then you have no clue what or when instructions were passed down about Casement closing. Instead of listening to know it all's like yourself, I prefer to get my updates on Casement from reliable sources in the media. Between 2013 and 2014 they were close to breaking ground on more than one occasion. But of course Antrim should've just hopped the fence and got on with it, right? Maintain a stand they were told was about to be demolished. Then this whole mess could've been avoided. Christ Almighty! If Antrim had a say in Casement closing then they are in the mix for blame, I can accept that, but to suggest that Antrim had the overriding authority throughout this whole ridiculous saga and hold them solely responsible for everything in this is quite frankly, to borrow your phrase, ludicrous!

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 14/03/2025 16:00:48    2596373

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Antrim were drawn at home and want their home game which has been suffice for league matches so should be fine for the Ulster championship, its a wee bit different from trying to prevent a bloody stadium rebuild by continuing to host matches without permission from HQ, as the info at the time was that they were breaking ground soon, several times. If you can't figure that one out they shouldn't even let you in the courtroom Baldrick."
Perhaps if Antrim GAA hadn't let Casement be run into the ground, they might have been more vocal with the Ulster Council. That's the point. The current prediciment they face is no one's fault but their own.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1238 - 14/03/2025 16:09:54    2596374

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Replying To Square_B:  "Perhaps if Antrim GAA hadn't let Casement be run into the ground, they might have been more vocal with the Ulster Council. That's the point. The current prediciment they face is no one's fault but their own."
Go ahead then, tell me what happened, since you won't listen to a word that I'm saying. Tell me everything you know that's happened and how you know that please.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 14/03/2025 18:37:00    2596392

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Antrim were drawn at home and want their home game which has been suffice for league matches so should be fine for the Ulster championship, its a wee bit different from trying to prevent a bloody stadium rebuild by continuing to host matches without permission from HQ, as the info at the time was that they were breaking ground soon, several times. If you can't figure that one out they shouldn't even let you in the courtroom Baldrick."
You're becoming funny now as well.

"Sufficient for league matches so should be fine for the Ulster championship" - even a blind man could see there's a difference between a Division 3 League match that won't attract a crowd bigger than 1,000 and a championship match where 12,000 to 15,000 wouldn't be a bad estimate.

"continuing to host matches without permission from HQ" - is that not exactly what they're trying to do now?

I could answer your later posts as well, but I won't right now. I'll wait until sometime later when I feel like another laugh.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2800 - 14/03/2025 19:27:07    2596397

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Go ahead then, tell me what happened, since you won't listen to a word that I'm saying. Tell me everything you know that's happened and how you know that please."
In relation to corrigan park, if Antrim end up in the tailtean cup will they be able to play their games there? I presume that they would as it might not draw as big a crowd. I hope they stick to their guns with the Armagh game. I know it more than likely have any impact on the result but it's the principle of the whole thing.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2227 - 14/03/2025 19:42:47    2596399

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "You're becoming funny now as well.

"Sufficient for league matches so should be fine for the Ulster championship" - even a blind man could see there's a difference between a Division 3 League match that won't attract a crowd bigger than 1,000 and a championship match where 12,000 to 15,000 wouldn't be a bad estimate.

"continuing to host matches without permission from HQ" - is that not exactly what they're trying to do now?

I could answer your later posts as well, but I won't right now. I'll wait until sometime later when I feel like another laugh."
Going round in circles with you two here and it's getting boring. I've answered the above several times on here. You clearly haven't much substance to your assumptions nor does SpongeBob. So have fun trolling with someone else.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 14/03/2025 20:24:45    2596408

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Replying To Bon:  "In relation to corrigan park, if Antrim end up in the tailtean cup will they be able to play their games there? I presume that they would as it might not draw as big a crowd. I hope they stick to their guns with the Armagh game. I know it more than likely have any impact on the result but it's the principle of the whole thing."
I would hope so Bon. But you wouldn't know what's around the corner, truth be told.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 14/03/2025 20:26:01    2596409

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Going round in circles with you two here and it's getting boring. I've answered the above several times on here. You clearly haven't much substance to your assumptions nor does SpongeBob. So have fun trolling with someone else."
You just don't like being told the truth. I get it. A sorry state of affairs which was completely avoidable. Antrim should just get on with it and play the game in Newry. They're not in a position to be throwing their weight around on this one.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1238 - 14/03/2025 20:44:52    2596415

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Replying To Bon:  "In relation to corrigan park, if Antrim end up in the tailtean cup will they be able to play their games there? I presume that they would as it might not draw as big a crowd. I hope they stick to their guns with the Armagh game. I know it more than likely have any impact on the result but it's the principle of the whole thing."
I'd expect they'd be able to play Tailteann Cup games there all right. Would be much like the case of Kildare and Hawkfield last year, that I mentioned earlier in the thread.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2800 - 14/03/2025 21:34:51    2596419

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Replying To Square_B:  "You just don't like being told the truth. I get it. A sorry state of affairs which was completely avoidable. Antrim should just get on with it and play the game in Newry. They're not in a position to be throwing their weight around on this one."
Truth? I gave you the chance to explain your so called truth and you ignored that to have another bite. You haven't a clue what you're talking about on this matter. That much is clear to see.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 15/03/2025 08:29:17    2596445

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Replying To Square_B:  "You just don't like being told the truth. I get it. A sorry state of affairs which was completely avoidable. Antrim should just get on with it and play the game in Newry. They're not in a position to be throwing their weight around on this one."
There has never been a day, ever, when Antrim have thrown their weight around.

We expect the Ulster council to honour our 'home' fixture. Just like any other County would.

Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 319 - 15/03/2025 09:24:49    2596452

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Replying To Glensboy:  "There has never been a day, ever, when Antrim have thrown their weight around.

We expect the Ulster council to honour our 'home' fixture. Just like any other County would."
Antrim's proposal ( to have the game at home) at the Ulster Council Council meeting couldn't even get a seconder so 90% of the UC is against ye!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2183 - 15/03/2025 10:41:41    2596454

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Truth? I gave you the chance to explain your so called truth and you ignored that to have another bite. You haven't a clue what you're talking about on this matter. That much is clear to see."
Again the "you don't know what you're talking about" line. Why not tell us so seeing as you and Ulsterman know it all. But like I said you wouldn't be able to play the victim card all the time then.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1550 - 15/03/2025 14:05:41    2596496

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Replying To oneoff:  "Again the "you don't know what you're talking about" line. Why not tell us so seeing as you and Ulsterman know it all. But like I said you wouldn't be able to play the victim card all the time then."
Do you and the other two get off on me repeating myself or something? I'm not wasting my Saturday going through what I've already said before.

You keep saying I'm 'playing the victim card' I'm not even sure what you're referring too. But it is a bit rich coming from the fella with the biggest chip on his shoulder on this forum. There's no substance to any of your petty bickering. Blanket judgments and zero facts is all you're about. I might as well talk to the wall.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 15/03/2025 14:32:58    2596504

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Do you and the other two get off on me repeating myself or something? I'm not wasting my Saturday going through what I've already said before.

You keep saying I'm 'playing the victim card' I'm not even sure what you're referring too. But it is a bit rich coming from the fella with the biggest chip on his shoulder on this forum. There's no substance to any of your petty bickering. Blanket judgments and zero facts is all you're about. I might as well talk to the wall."
I think you'll find it's you who keeps repeating themselves with the "you don't know what you're talking about" line you keep throwing out.

The irony of someone from Ulster talking about others having chips on their shoulders. But again like your buddy Ulsterman irony is never really lost on you is it?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1550 - 15/03/2025 16:57:20    2596527

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