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St Mary's Rosslare/Liam Griffin Motion At Congress

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's not the case. Every young lad in our county can play Football with his local club, or one nearby, in our county. Same as hurling.
You are obviously an Internet man, you are on this forum. It shouldn't be too hard to find our underage fixtures and results from last year, without taking misinformation as gospel."
Talk about misrepresenting my point, you have a habit of doing that on this thread funny enough. The point is, will Griffin and others be prepared to pay for the resources required to support the expansion of Hurling in weaker counties even if it's only at Go games level for the moment? It's easy to put forward a motion but harder to talk the talk.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1158 - 22/02/2025 13:45:56    2592442

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Replying To Square_B:  "We're soon to be a Division 4 team.... your team will be probably Division 3 next year so I'm not sure you'd be looking to Leitrim to fund your football development plans.

At the end of the day, the notional idea of getting clubs in weaker counties to promote hurling will go nowhere without funding & that will have to come from Croke Park which in turn will come from reduced contributions from CP to counties. It's completely laughable the suggestion that 'tickets' could be sold to 'fund' the development of hurling in weaker counties. People barely contribute to their local clubs without caljuling never mind for the benefit of other counties."
It would surprise you. Hurling people are very passionate about hurling.
But if the motion gets passed there should definitely be central funds made available to coach coaches.
There are hurling starter packs already being made available as of now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14811 - 22/02/2025 14:07:25    2592443

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Replying To Square_B:  "Talk about misrepresenting my point, you have a habit of doing that on this thread funny enough. The point is, will Griffin and others be prepared to pay for the resources required to support the expansion of Hurling in weaker counties even if it's only at Go games level for the moment? It's easy to put forward a motion but harder to talk the talk."
"Griffin has some nerve to call for more participation in counties where hurling is weak if that's the case. If called to fund it (which counties like Wexford will be) I guarantee the tune will change quick."

This is your post that I answered. You posted it in answer to a poster who said we had less football than hurling fixtures provided by CCC and Games Development. You said Griffin has some nerve if that's the case.
This isn't true at all, we have the same number of hurling and football fixtures, which is why I posted the answer I gave you.
I didn't misrepresent any point you made.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14811 - 22/02/2025 14:12:52    2592444

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Replying To Viking66:  ""Griffin has some nerve to call for more participation in counties where hurling is weak if that's the case. If called to fund it (which counties like Wexford will be) I guarantee the tune will change quick."

This is your post that I answered. You posted it in answer to a poster who said we had less football than hurling fixtures provided by CCC and Games Development. You said Griffin has some nerve if that's the case.
This isn't true at all, we have the same number of hurling and football fixtures, which is why I posted the answer I gave you.
I didn't misrepresent any point you made."
But the OP didn't say that at all... never once commented about the amount of fixtures (football vs hurling)...

"Whilst motions continue to be put through in wexford to reduce the amount of football being played at underage. Its is ironic in fairness when one of the feedback from the hac in wexford of which griffin is a part of was to push away from underage playing football and fhe very words used was "allow football to compete for more with soccer"

Yep so much for pushing GAA participation when the said same people in wexford anyway woukd gladly eradicate football if given the chance, that's the irony really."

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1158 - 22/02/2025 14:29:40    2592446

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Replying To Viking66:  "It would surprise you. Hurling people are very passionate about hurling.
But if the motion gets passed there should definitely be central funds made available to coach coaches.
There are hurling starter packs already being made available as of now."
Funds which will have to be taken from other counties. There isn't a magic money tree in Croke Park. And when push comes to shove, the counties that have the most money to loose will protect their own interests & push back against all this. A hurling "starter" pack is going to cut it.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1158 - 22/02/2025 14:36:20    2592448

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Motion withdrawn to enable further consideration. Rightly so.

Hopefully Willie Maher will spend some time to understand the real challenges in each county across all codes before looking at what can be done to grow hurling in weaker areas. The force-and-fine philosophy is wrong and damaging and should never have reached congress.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 592 - 22/02/2025 15:39:11    2592457

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Replying To Square_B:  "But the OP didn't say that at all... never once commented about the amount of fixtures (football vs hurling)...

"Whilst motions continue to be put through in wexford to reduce the amount of football being played at underage. Its is ironic in fairness when one of the feedback from the hac in wexford of which griffin is a part of was to push away from underage playing football and fhe very words used was "allow football to compete for more with soccer"

Yep so much for pushing GAA participation when the said same people in wexford anyway woukd gladly eradicate football if given the chance, that's the irony really.""
Whilst motions continue to be put through in wexford to reduce the amount of football being played at underage.
What do you suppose this means then? And it's not true anyway.
And yes the HAC advises on hurling in the county. So of course they have an agenda, the clue is in their name.
Fact remains there are plenty of Football men in the county also, and on the county board.
Our current county chairman comes from Horeswood, a dual club that would have won more senior Football titles, 4 , than hurling ones, zero.
His predecessor is from Volunteers, a Football only club who have won our Senior Football Championship 11 times.
And his predecessor is from our club, another dual club, and we have never won a SenIor hurling title either, while we have won 3 Senior Football titles. in fact we haven't even been Senior in hurling since the 50s.
There are plenty people down here with all sorts of agendas, I'm sure it's the same up your way, so best check anything presented as fact on this forum. Including anything I post.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14811 - 22/02/2025 15:41:53    2592458

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Replying To Square_B:  "Funds which will have to be taken from other counties. There isn't a magic money tree in Croke Park. And when push comes to shove, the counties that have the most money to loose will protect their own interests & push back against all this. A hurling "starter" pack is going to cut it."
It is what it says it is- a starter pack. Hurls, sliotars, helmets. As regards starting from scratch I know a little about this too. I'd never picked up a ball or hit it with a hurl until I was nearly 50. If I'm able to learn as I go, do my coaching courses, and coach young lads then there surely isn't anything stopping you doing the same.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14811 - 22/02/2025 15:47:06    2592459

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Replying To Square_B:  "Funds which will have to be taken from other counties. There isn't a magic money tree in Croke Park. And when push comes to shove, the counties that have the most money to loose will protect their own interests & push back against all this. A hurling "starter" pack is going to cut it."
I agree funds will have to be taken from other projects. But of the 4 main sports the GAA was set up to promote Hurling is by far and away the hardest to get access to for alot of people in this country. Which is a shame as it's a great sport. And probably the most Irish of the sports played in this country.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14811 - 22/02/2025 15:50:49    2592460

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