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Is There A Workable Solution To Limiting Handpasses In Football?

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "I like that solution.
Handpass is there to help a tackled player out of trouble. It shouldn't be used to keep possession.

The alternative is to only allow a backwards hand pass. Therefore you have to kick or solo the ball to get up the pitch."
Should there only be forward passes? Vertical football and all that. In fairness watching Donegal, they can quick and incisive attacks with vertical running and handpassing.
Some see it as complicated and maybe it is, I was trying to make a point that if someone receives a handpass, if they at least solo they should be allowed give a handpass.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8530 - 18/02/2025 05:40:31    2591709

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Replying To legendzxix:  "From some of the commentary about the energy levels required under the new rules, they probably need the handpassing for a release valve.
The 12 v 11 has to be looked at. For man on man contests, it has to be 11 v 11. One suggestion from some quarters is that the attacking team should keep 4 back. If the goalkeeper is venturing forward, an "outfield" player would have to drop back."
This 'energy' stuff is coming from the managers; ignore them, their self-interest has never been helpful. And, try not to come up with excuses for retaining the handpass status quo - we are trying to limit it!

There seems to be a consensus that the 12 v 11 will go. It has to go - it's bringing us back to square one.
I see no point in the advancing goalkeeper being replaced by an outfield player; and, it would amount to an unwanted complication.

The simplest - simplicity is essential - solution to the handpass catastrophe is: 'if you receive a handpass, you must kick the ball'.
What could be simpler? Bringing us back to 'football' as opposed to 'handball'.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 319 - 18/02/2025 11:58:14    2591749

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Hand passing the ball backwards is the main problem and is just annoying to watch…. If all hand passes went forward there would be no complaints at all about how many there was…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3487 - 18/02/2025 13:11:11    2591762

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Instead of setting a hard 'hand pass limit', would the following 'indirectly' address it?:

From kick out to registering a score/wide, a team has a total 'unscientific' 60 seconds limit of unbroken possession, with the limit further constrained to 20 seconds per 'zonal third' (each 'third' formed by dividing the pitch at the 45s).

Would this prevent the type of 'diddling & dawdling' that occurred in the Mayo v Tyrone game last weekend.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3085 - 19/02/2025 02:07:29    2591862

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"The simplest - simplicity is essential - solution to the handpass catastrophe is: 'if you receive a handpass, you must kick the ball'.
What could be simpler? Bringing us back to 'football' as opposed to 'handball'.
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 318 - 18/02/2025 11:58:14"

I think that is the simple solution. If you receive a handpass, you must kick the ball. The exception then being the attacking team inside their opponents 45. Quick incisive handpassing can be required to get through blanket defences to create scores.
Essentially;
1. You have to get the ball forward to your opponents 45 for unlimited handpassing.
2. If your defence can hound and hassle your opponent out of the 45, it can force them into restrictive handpassing outside the 45 - creating chaos, contests and possibly turn over ball.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8530 - 19/02/2025 03:05:42    2591864

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Hand passing the ball backwards is the main problem and is just annoying to watch…. If all hand passes went forward there would be no complaints at all about how many there was…"
Is handpassing really an issue though?

Endless lateral play is what I would find more annoying, regardless of whether they kickpass it or handpass it. I heard Pat Spillane raising it on the Late Late Show, and a few posters pushing for it here, but I think we've had enough rule changes for now.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1266 - 19/02/2025 13:57:11    2591933

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@legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8520 - 19/02/2025 03:05:42

Taking your 'simple' cue -
Defence must always kick pass from behind their 45 to beyond their 65. Done.
Plenty of periodic ball contests in midfield.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3085 - 19/02/2025 19:23:55    2591986

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Hand passing the ball backwards is the main problem and is just annoying to watch…. If all hand passes went forward there would be no complaints at all about how many there was…"
And hand passing the ball backwards in rugby doesn't seem to be 'annoying' at all. The growing volume of alickadoos seem to love it.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3950 - 19/02/2025 21:36:34    2591994

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The biggest problem for the GAA at the present is payment of Managers and everyone else involved with an adult team These payments massive in some cases will put Clubs out of business unless something is done to put a stop to it. My solution would be Clubs would have all involved with club teams be from and living in the Club area, same as the players , same for County teams , all involved be from the County. This would cut out most of the costs with teams and bring back genuine people to the game and improve the game as a spectical.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 464 - 20/02/2025 10:23:53    2592030

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Replying To legendzxix:  ""The simplest - simplicity is essential - solution to the handpass catastrophe is: 'if you receive a handpass, you must kick the ball'.
What could be simpler? Bringing us back to 'football' as opposed to 'handball'.
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 318 - 18/02/2025 11:58:14"

I think that is the simple solution. If you receive a handpass, you must kick the ball. The exception then being the attacking team inside their opponents 45. Quick incisive handpassing can be required to get through blanket defences to create scores.
Essentially;
1. You have to get the ball forward to your opponents 45 for unlimited handpassing.
2. If your defence can hound and hassle your opponent out of the 45, it can force them into restrictive handpassing outside the 45 - creating chaos, contests and possibly turn over ball."
Forget about 'exceptions'. Keep it simple, at all costs.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 319 - 20/02/2025 17:04:46    2592135

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Forget about 'exceptions'. Keep it simple, at all costs."
All well and good saying forget about exceptions but quick incisive handpassing is needed to get past compact defences. Counter productive not to allow for that. They key is where should less restrictive handpassing be allowed.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8530 - 21/02/2025 02:53:56    2592196

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