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Is There A Workable Solution To Limiting Handpasses In Football?

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I asked the initial question: Is There A Workable Solution To Limiting Handpasses In Football?
If 12 v 11 is the source of the problem for creating piggy in the middle keep ball, the FRC need to rethink about allowing the keeper create the numerical advantage."
That's fair enough, point taken.

My preference would be hand pass only in the middle third. No hand pass in the attacking third or in the defending.
My second preference would be 11 v 11.

I have no third preference.
Keeping the game simple is a must as it minimises the possibility of more new rules.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3109 - 07/02/2025 09:01:04    2589839

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Grand. Don't watch it then."
Exactly.

Glad you got the point. I don't watch any more (or very little anyway), and neither do thousands of others. Heard it from loads of people its unwatchable, same complaint "throwing the ball around the pitch".

Will remain that way until GAA gets it head out of the sand and severely puts a limitation on "throwing" ( because that's what it amounts to).

Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 219 - 08/02/2025 12:46:24    2590012

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Replying To omahant:  "@brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 379 - 06/02/2025

In lieu of required hand pass restrictions, would mandatory inter-zone kicks achieve the same thing?
Would it work, relieve fitness levels and be easier on the referee?"
Stop all your American nonsense. Between this and your equations for different formats for championship you'd fry a man's brain.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2209 - 08/02/2025 13:51:48    2590023

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Replying To Solo_Run:  "Exactly.

Glad you got the point. I don't watch any more (or very little anyway), and neither do thousands of others. Heard it from loads of people its unwatchable, same complaint "throwing the ball around the pitch".

Will remain that way until GAA gets it head out of the sand and severely puts a limitation on "throwing" ( because that's what it amounts to)."
Go coaching. Put the time in, change how your team play. It seems to be that simple for all the couch potatoes on here. Absolutely clueless.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8247 - 08/02/2025 15:08:44    2590034

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Replying To Solo_Run:  "Exactly.

Glad you got the point. I don't watch any more (or very little anyway), and neither do thousands of others. Heard it from loads of people its unwatchable, same complaint "throwing the ball around the pitch".

Will remain that way until GAA gets it head out of the sand and severely puts a limitation on "throwing" ( because that's what it amounts to)."
Throwing the ball is a foul so I doubt players throw the ball around the field. GAA has never in its history got as much airtime as now and the crowds are still going, maybe not to see the mighty Leitrim but they are going. Yourself and the Cavan crier would be well matched.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2209 - 08/02/2025 15:41:39    2590045

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Throwing the ball is a foul so I doubt players throw the ball around the field. GAA has never in its history got as much airtime as now and the crowds are still going, maybe not to see the mighty Leitrim but they are going. Yourself and the Cavan crier would be well matched."
Some people just can't handle the truth… head out of the sand… that's a good lad..!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3487 - 09/02/2025 05:04:09    2590171

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Some people just can't handle the truth… head out of the sand… that's a good lad..!"
Genuine question. "Is head out of the sand" and "there's a good lad" all you can come up with?

TalkToFahy (Tyrone) - Posts: 35 - 09/02/2025 11:12:00    2590192

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Some people just can't handle the truth… head out of the sand… that's a good lad..!"
The truth is that some county grounds can't handle the appetite for football. Football has never been healthier and the crowds keep coming. Listen to Ryan Mc Hugh, like everyone he loves watching football. There now Forever whinging.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2209 - 09/02/2025 22:39:21    2590317

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Saw a comment that there is more handpassing under the new rules! So much for the new rules, while positive, supposed to be sweeteners to encourage more kicking!
The only solution I see is if you receive a handpass you cannot handpass. The exception then when attacking inside the opponents 45. No limit on handpassing there to encourage vertical football for teams to get to the attacking 45 asap so that they can handpass to their hearts content!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8530 - 14/02/2025 02:17:50    2590917

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Replying To TalkToFahy:  "Genuine question. "Is head out of the sand" and "there's a good lad" all you can come up with?"
Genuine answer…. Get your head out of the sand … good lad…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3487 - 14/02/2025 07:15:47    2590918

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Replying To Saynothing:  "The truth is that some county grounds can't handle the appetite for football. Football has never been healthier and the crowds keep coming. Listen to Ryan Mc Hugh, like everyone he loves watching football. There now Forever whinging."
That just proves how bad or how small most county grounds must be… no matches sold out.. don't be a fool.. head out of the sand now.. that's a good lad

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3487 - 14/02/2025 07:17:51    2590919

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Replying To brianb:  "That breather could still happen with some handpass restriction - there would just need to be some element of kick pass in there as well. But players slowing the game down needs to be on both teams terms - if the opposition don't want to take that breather and look at the over and back; a restriction on the handpass would help them contest the ball.

Having said that - any restriction on handpasses I've read here would either be difficult to referee consistently (counting passes - back passes - zones etc) or counterproductive working inside the 45. So I'd agree that its probably not feasible to impose hand passing restrictions.

We should prevent the 12 v 11 scenario though and that would at least give the opposition the chance to push out without playing basketball style piggy in the middle."
Yeah I think you're right, prevention of the 12 v 11 scenario would probably reduce the lateral handpassing which is annoying at times. But it would need to be tested, I'm waiting until after the summer to see how the 12 v 11 pans out.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1266 - 14/02/2025 09:20:35    2590926

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Genuine answer…. Get your head out of the sand … good lad…"
You are never happy. If someone give ye a million quid ye would complain that it isn't 2 million. It's the likes of yourself that would put people off going to football. If you go to matches your probably one of these "down with this sort of thing" people. If you don't like the old rules,new rules,games being played on a Saturday aswell as a Sunday or whatever it is. Don't watch it and then ye won't have to complain about it. Life's to short to do or watch something you don't like. Read a book,go for a walk or go to the beach and build a sandcastle. Ye do love to talk about sand after all lol. Ye would be some craic at a party

TalkToFahy (Tyrone) - Posts: 35 - 14/02/2025 15:57:14    2591022

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Saw a comment that there is more handpassing under the new rules! So much for the new rules, while positive, supposed to be sweeteners to encourage more kicking!
The only solution I see is if you receive a handpass you cannot handpass. The exception then when attacking inside the opponents 45. No limit on handpassing there to encourage vertical football for teams to get to the attacking 45 asap so that they can handpass to their hearts content!"
My fix is:
1) Ball MUST be kicked by defence from behind their own 45 to beyond their own 65 or beyond (a 45-65, with plenty of midfield contests).
2) Teams have a 20-second limit before moving the ball to the next third of the field, or scoring from the last third (the 45s divide the field into thirds).

Would it work?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3085 - 14/02/2025 19:33:35    2591052

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Replying To omahant:  "My fix is:
1) Ball MUST be kicked by defence from behind their own 45 to beyond their own 65 or beyond (a 45-65, with plenty of midfield contests).
2) Teams have a 20-second limit before moving the ball to the next third of the field, or scoring from the last third (the 45s divide the field into thirds).

Would it work?"
No.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2078 - 14/02/2025 23:40:24    2591086

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If the statistic of an increase in handpassing under the new rules is true, it is embarrassing for the FRC despite the overall positivity.
Receive a handpass - cannot handpass unless you are in the opponents 45 might encourage the "vertical football".
If restricting handpassing is difficult to officiate, chaos option could be only allowing forward handpassing. The FRC in their infinite wisdom have to come up with some workable solution.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8530 - 15/02/2025 14:20:32    2591139

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Replying To omahant:  "My fix is:
1) Ball MUST be kicked by defence from behind their own 45 to beyond their own 65 or beyond (a 45-65, with plenty of midfield contests).
2) Teams have a 20-second limit before moving the ball to the next third of the field, or scoring from the last third (the 45s divide the field into thirds).

Would it work?"
Stop this nonsense.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2209 - 16/02/2025 12:17:32    2591314

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Replying To Solo_Run:  "Exactly.

Glad you got the point. I don't watch any more (or very little anyway), and neither do thousands of others. Heard it from loads of people its unwatchable, same complaint "throwing the ball around the pitch".

Will remain that way until GAA gets it head out of the sand and severely puts a limitation on "throwing" ( because that's what it amounts to)."
I presume you hate the basketball and the rugby with equal fervour lol

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 288 - 16/02/2025 12:52:49    2591321

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Fist passes only. And no hand-passed scores

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 288 - 16/02/2025 12:55:13    2591322

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Saw a comment that there is more handpassing under the new rules! So much for the new rules, while positive, supposed to be sweeteners to encourage more kicking!
The only solution I see is if you receive a handpass you cannot handpass. The exception then when attacking inside the opponents 45. No limit on handpassing there to encourage vertical football for teams to get to the attacking 45 asap so that they can handpass to their hearts content!"
I like that solution.
Handpass is there to help a tackled player out of trouble. It shouldn't be used to keep possession.

The alternative is to only allow a backwards hand pass. Therefore you have to kick or solo the ball to get up the pitch.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1209 - 17/02/2025 18:04:49    2591648

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