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Replying To Viking66: "Congratulations to John and the lads, their attitude was excellent all over the pitch. There weren't many of us in the crowd of 200 odds, but the lads played as if there were thousands.
I think the first 15 is pretty settled, but boy has he some very good options off the bench now, while lads in their early 20s have got good experience also, and are good prospects for the future. I don't think I've felt this positive about Wexford Football in many years tbh." I have to agree Viking, the attitude today was excellent even though it was a "nothing" game. There's a great comeraderie in this group, they all seem to be ready to die for each other.
The future certainly looks brighter than it has done for a while, let's hope the good form continues well into the summer.
Yellaman (Wexford) - Posts: 156 - 23/03/2025 21:31:56
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Well done lads. 7 wins from 7 games. Only team in the country to achive that.
I know it was the 4th division but this might be a stepping stone to greater things.
They are playing with confidece and maturity. The back six are now a tight unit and won't leak soft goals like they used to. Midfield with coleman and Hughes is strong and forcefull and have great engines.
All the forwards are scoring, we are not relying on one or two players anymore.
Hopefully they can continue to do well in the league final and then a big game against Laois in the championship. That will be tough no doubt but on home soil and a big crowd in the park its very possible for a win if we continue to play like we are right now. Its all about confidence and belief.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 427 - 24/03/2025 10:14:54
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Replying To Viking66: "What extra resources do you think they need Zinny? Serious question now. And in what way will those extra measures increase take up of football at grassroots? And elite Football player development? Only around 15 years ago we were in an AIFSF and 2 Leinster finals, and won a Leinster u21 Football title.
Coaching and Games are trying to get clubs to go training twice a week at Football and Hurling from u8 upwards . But it's still up to the boys themselves do they prefer hurling or Football. I'm a mentor for an underage team in a really even dual club. Of 17 lads we had last year 2 only played Football, but of the rest nearly all of them prefer hurling. Now this year I've gone up an agegroup. We have 19 dual, and 4 Football only. But again of the 19 dual lads only 3 prefer football. Now that's nothing to do with resources, the CB, or anyone else. That's the boys preferring the game of hurling to the game of football. From reading the posts on this forum and talking to friends in other clubs that's replicated all over the county in most dual clubs, with some openly leaning towards hurling." In money terms I doubt if they are denied anything the hurlers have. What I think is missing is more the resources of the mind and perhaps that's fair as most people are volunteers and struggle even to focus on what they are interested in. If you go into a school with no strong GAA affiliations and you take 8yr olds outside and say to them, look there are bunch of hurls here or a football what do you want to play - I think you will find football is far more popular. The first thing any kid probably does is kick a ball How many clubs are afraid to coach both equally because they are afraid that they will prefer football? Then what happens to the kids who prefer football - give up?
If your not being coached properly in one sport as a kid and the other you are then they will gravitate to one over the other so its no great surprise that by the time a kid is 17 he would say that. There is also the image put out there that to play football over hurling, shows he's soft. So my question is how much effort really goes into countering that, do we hear the leaders talk about it etc.
The most important element is to keep people engaged in the GAA as long as possible but unfortunately some would rather some kids gave up than to see them successful at football. I get the idiots who begrudge other team sports such as rugby and soccer success in Ireland (although quite happy to support the success of English Football clubs) but within our own organisation, it's just ridiculous.
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Replying To zinny: "In money terms I doubt if they are denied anything the hurlers have. What I think is missing is more the resources of the mind and perhaps that's fair as most people are volunteers and struggle even to focus on what they are interested in. If you go into a school with no strong GAA affiliations and you take 8yr olds outside and say to them, look there are bunch of hurls here or a football what do you want to play - I think you will find football is far more popular. The first thing any kid probably does is kick a ball How many clubs are afraid to coach both equally because they are afraid that they will prefer football? Then what happens to the kids who prefer football - give up?
If your not being coached properly in one sport as a kid and the other you are then they will gravitate to one over the other so its no great surprise that by the time a kid is 17 he would say that. There is also the image put out there that to play football over hurling, shows he's soft. So my question is how much effort really goes into countering that, do we hear the leaders talk about it etc.
The most important element is to keep people engaged in the GAA as long as possible but unfortunately some would rather some kids gave up than to see them successful at football. I get the idiots who begrudge other team sports such as rugby and soccer success in Ireland (although quite happy to support the success of English Football clubs) but within our own organisation, it's just ridiculous." I think you are missing the most important point Zinny. If a child masters the skills of hurling there is more reward, personal satisfaction, in that, because it's harder.
My young lads preferred Football to start with because they could do it, while even picking up the ball with a hurl was pretty hard to start with. Now they prefer playing hurling. While they sometimes go out and kick a ball around, most times they get the hurls out.
And that's not down to conditioning at the club. We are a dual club. And it's not down to conditioning at home, we go and support the hurlers and the footballers, the kids were in both Limerick and Longford over the weekend.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 24/03/2025 12:24:25
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Replying To zinny: "In money terms I doubt if they are denied anything the hurlers have. What I think is missing is more the resources of the mind and perhaps that's fair as most people are volunteers and struggle even to focus on what they are interested in. If you go into a school with no strong GAA affiliations and you take 8yr olds outside and say to them, look there are bunch of hurls here or a football what do you want to play - I think you will find football is far more popular. The first thing any kid probably does is kick a ball How many clubs are afraid to coach both equally because they are afraid that they will prefer football? Then what happens to the kids who prefer football - give up?
If your not being coached properly in one sport as a kid and the other you are then they will gravitate to one over the other so its no great surprise that by the time a kid is 17 he would say that. There is also the image put out there that to play football over hurling, shows he's soft. So my question is how much effort really goes into countering that, do we hear the leaders talk about it etc.
The most important element is to keep people engaged in the GAA as long as possible but unfortunately some would rather some kids gave up than to see them successful at football. I get the idiots who begrudge other team sports such as rugby and soccer success in Ireland (although quite happy to support the success of English Football clubs) but within our own organisation, it's just ridiculous." Good post that.
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Replying To Viking66: "I think you are missing the most important point Zinny. If a child masters the skills of hurling there is more reward, personal satisfaction, in that, because it's harder.
My young lads preferred Football to start with because they could do it, while even picking up the ball with a hurl was pretty hard to start with. Now they prefer playing hurling. While they sometimes go out and kick a ball around, most times they get the hurls out.
And that's not down to conditioning at the club. We are a dual club. And it's not down to conditioning at home, we go and support the hurlers and the footballers, the kids were in both Limerick and Longford over the weekend." "I think you are missing the most important point Zinny. If a child masters the skills of hurling there is more reward, personal satisfaction, in that, because it's harder."
Hard disagree on this one for me. Football is easier to get lads up to a level they can participate. But mastering the skills? Most are miles off it in football. Unfortunately a lot in this county are infected with the same mindset as you have there.
Ask a minor hurler to put the ball over the bar off his strong and weak side from 65 yards. Now ask a minor footballer if he can put it over the bar off both feet from 45 yards. Most hurlers will score with both shots from 65, but the footballers won't score both from 45. So which is more skilful?
They're two different games. Both with a tonne of skills. Both need to be practiced a lot to be mastered.
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Replying To icehonesty: ""I think you are missing the most important point Zinny. If a child masters the skills of hurling there is more reward, personal satisfaction, in that, because it's harder."
Hard disagree on this one for me. Football is easier to get lads up to a level they can participate. But mastering the skills? Most are miles off it in football. Unfortunately a lot in this county are infected with the same mindset as you have there.
Ask a minor hurler to put the ball over the bar off his strong and weak side from 65 yards. Now ask a minor footballer if he can put it over the bar off both feet from 45 yards. Most hurlers will score with both shots from 65, but the footballers won't score both from 45. So which is more skilful?
They're two different games. Both with a tonne of skills. Both need to be practiced a lot to be mastered." I agree both need to be practiced. You have missed the point I'm making entirely.
As regards the point you are making about kicking the ball over the bar from 45 yards out off both feet, well over 90% of Senior intercounty footballers from any county cant do it consistently. In fact most can't do it consistently off their best foot.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 24/03/2025 14:42:13
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Replying To icehonesty: ""I think you are missing the most important point Zinny. If a child masters the skills of hurling there is more reward, personal satisfaction, in that, because it's harder."
Hard disagree on this one for me. Football is easier to get lads up to a level they can participate. But mastering the skills? Most are miles off it in football. Unfortunately a lot in this county are infected with the same mindset as you have there.
Ask a minor hurler to put the ball over the bar off his strong and weak side from 65 yards. Now ask a minor footballer if he can put it over the bar off both feet from 45 yards. Most hurlers will score with both shots from 65, but the footballers won't score both from 45. So which is more skilful?
They're two different games. Both with a tonne of skills. Both need to be practiced a lot to be mastered." I agree both need to be practiced. You have missed the point I'm making entirely.
As regards the point you are making about kicking the ball over the bar from 45 yards out off both feet, well over 90% of Senior intercounty footballers from any county cant do it consistently. In fact most can't do it consistently off their best foot.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 24/03/2025 14:46:03
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Replying To Viking66: "I think you are missing the most important point Zinny. If a child masters the skills of hurling there is more reward, personal satisfaction, in that, because it's harder.
My young lads preferred Football to start with because they could do it, while even picking up the ball with a hurl was pretty hard to start with. Now they prefer playing hurling. While they sometimes go out and kick a ball around, most times they get the hurls out.
And that's not down to conditioning at the club. We are a dual club. And it's not down to conditioning at home, we go and support the hurlers and the footballers, the kids were in both Limerick and Longford over the weekend." I know it's definitely not coming from the home with you but are you 100% sure it's not at the club. Some of the biggest duel clubs are the worst offenders.
There is no left side in hurling as you are always gripping the hurl in your right hand and the power comes from the right. Kicking with your weak foot is unnatural to everything you do ever day. If kids think that being a good hurler is more skilled than a footballer that is conditioning. To promote hurling a lot of people dumb down football and the same with soccer and rugby. The narrative around football has been too negative at the national and local level. The new rules will hopefully change all of that - looking at some of the games, they have been great but its only the league. The reality is now very few hurlers would have the fitness to compete in football at county level. That doesn't make it a better sport - just different. The message should be from the top that it's the practices of the clubs and parents that result in kids giving up the GAA early and any sport for that matter. If we give them the same opportunities in both they then hopefully will find what works for them.
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Replying To zinny: "I know it's definitely not coming from the home with you but are you 100% sure it's not at the club. Some of the biggest duel clubs are the worst offenders.
There is no left side in hurling as you are always gripping the hurl in your right hand and the power comes from the right. Kicking with your weak foot is unnatural to everything you do ever day. If kids think that being a good hurler is more skilled than a footballer that is conditioning. To promote hurling a lot of people dumb down football and the same with soccer and rugby. The narrative around football has been too negative at the national and local level. The new rules will hopefully change all of that - looking at some of the games, they have been great but its only the league. The reality is now very few hurlers would have the fitness to compete in football at county level. That doesn't make it a better sport - just different. The message should be from the top that it's the practices of the clubs and parents that result in kids giving up the GAA early and any sport for that matter. If we give them the same opportunities in both they then hopefully will find what works for them." All our adult players are dual. All the starters for our hurling team started for our Football team. At underage we have a few lads who play Football only, we don't have anyone that's Hurling only. We have coaches who prefer hurling, and others that prefer Football, tbh I'd prefer to watch a game of hurling myself, but I still enjoy a good game of Football at any grade and age.
Currently our adults are playing Football at a higher grade than they are playing Hurling after we got relegated last year.
And lastly we aren't a big club, I'd be guessing we are in the bottom half of clubs in the county as regards playing numbers from adult down to u6.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 25/03/2025 08:14:14
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I'd agree with zinny there. Around Wexford, there are plenty of the hurling only crowd. You hear it in the pub, clubs, online. "I'd burst every football". We've all seen or heard someone at it. How many football people go on with that? "I'd burn every hurl and sliotar". None. Vast majority of football people want clubs fully dual. Majority of hurling people I've come across want way more hurling than football. And plenty do their best to poison football at every opportunity.
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Replying To icehonesty: "I'd agree with zinny there. Around Wexford, there are plenty of the hurling only crowd. You hear it in the pub, clubs, online. "I'd burst every football". We've all seen or heard someone at it. How many football people go on with that? "I'd burn every hurl and sliotar". None. Vast majority of football people want clubs fully dual. Majority of hurling people I've come across want way more hurling than football. And plenty do their best to poison football at every opportunity." Ah yes there are hurling only people around. I have a few friends who are football only also though. I agree there are more of the former than the latter in Wexford, but they are all grown men. You won't change their minds. So there's no point complaining about it.
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Good team named for this evenings u20 match even if missing one or two names missing our doubtful with injuries.
This team can do something I feel, hopefully starting tonight
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Replying To tearintom: "Good team named for this evenings u20 match even if missing one or two names missing our doubtful with injuries.
This team can do something I feel, hopefully starting tonight" SOME VERY GOOD FOOTBALLERS ON IT, HEAR THEY HAVE PUT IN A BIG EFFORT
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Replying To tearintom: "Good team named for this evenings u20 match even if missing one or two names missing our doubtful with injuries.
This team can do something I feel, hopefully starting tonight" Hope so too. Hopefully the minors will go well again this year also.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 26/03/2025 14:16:38
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expected the u 20s to win a bit hander , lot of very good players on that team, but just hung on , they played really good football in 1st half , still nice to get a win
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Replying To Stmunnsriver: "expected the u 20s to win a bit hander , lot of very good players on that team, but just hung on , they played really good football in 1st half , still nice to get a win" https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/u-20-gaelic-football/gilbert-goals-get-wexford-past-carlow/a676759545.html
Couldnt go, had to go to New Ross for a school meeting. I have it on clubber, hope to get the chance today to watch it back. Heard we really faded badly in the last quarter?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15453 - 27/03/2025 06:46:04
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Replying To Stmunnsriver: "expected the u 20s to win a bit hander , lot of very good players on that team, but just hung on , they played really good football in 1st half , still nice to get a win" Missed goal chances and poor discipline meant the game was a lot closer than it should have been.
Will have to tighten that up but a decent performance overall.
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Replying To Viking66: "https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/u-20-gaelic-football/gilbert-goals-get-wexford-past-carlow/a676759545.html
Couldnt go, had to go to New Ross for a school meeting. I have it on clubber, hope to get the chance today to watch it back. Heard we really faded badly in the last quarter?" Game of two halves. Over 60 mins match ye just about did enough but a draw wouldn't have been unfair outcome. Another 5 mins in that second half and ye were beaten.
Looks like we'll all be in trouble against Kildare though.
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Replying To Viking66: "https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/u-20-gaelic-football/gilbert-goals-get-wexford-past-carlow/a676759545.html
Couldnt go, had to go to New Ross for a school meeting. I have it on clubber, hope to get the chance today to watch it back. Heard we really faded badly in the last quarter?" Looked good going forward, Carlow were limited in attack and still managed to get close in the end. Still they will improve for it
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