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Replying To Bon: "Why should they get that opportunity? At the cost of teams already in the competition?" Agree LM counties have been shafted a bit here, but presuming NY win next weekend, they move up a level where they may need to up their game and it will be other better counties to up their game too if they have to. If NY had lost there probably would not be a word about it. Leitrim didn't complain to the gaa about their loss in Connacht to NY in 23 they looked at themselves and got promoted to div3 the next year. Anything that happened since isn't NY's fault, it was 2 years ago, practically a new team since then on both panels.
gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 639 - 25/05/2025 16:19:37
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Replying To countyman2022: "Well clearly they have earned the right to be there? What would you rather they do? Stay in NY and get no games?" Well, I'd have no problem with that. It's a strange concept to even have them in inter county competitions to start with.
If you gathered together 30 talented but non-county players from Liam MacCarthy counties and asked the GAA to let this team enter the Lory Meagher, they'd be laughed out of it.
But if you call that bunch of players "New York" then they're more than welcome to play; in fact some people think it's something to celebrate that a gang of Irish players wearing New York jerseys beat teams representing their actual counties.
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I was at the game yesterday in Mullingar. Monaghan did very well against a strong wind in the first half. They played some good stuff with the Monaghan full back Aaron Kenny keeping Glynn in check. To be fair the Monaghan fullback line did very well working the short puck outs and cutting out balls. Two points scored by New York in added time in the first half gave them a little cushion but with the wind it wasn't much of a comfort or a surprise.
New York blitzed Monaghan at the start of the second half and then their class told. To be fair to Monaghan they never threw in the towel and kept trying to the end. The conditioning of some of the New York players was impressive. Glynn was better in the second half, he has good hands for a big man. O'Leary's Hayes who played for Cork is the size of a well built house. Mangangan was also outstanding at 12 for the yanks. They had a big panel over by the looks of it and plenty of support.
Can't see them being beaten next week as this game will bring them on a lot. They improved throughout and if they are tuned in next week could be better still.
MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 244 - 25/05/2025 19:44:37
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Replying To MrPBoylan: "I was at the game yesterday in Mullingar. Monaghan did very well against a strong wind in the first half. They played some good stuff with the Monaghan full back Aaron Kenny keeping Glynn in check. To be fair the Monaghan fullback line did very well working the short puck outs and cutting out balls. Two points scored by New York in added time in the first half gave them a little cushion but with the wind it wasn't much of a comfort or a surprise.
New York blitzed Monaghan at the start of the second half and then their class told. To be fair to Monaghan they never threw in the towel and kept trying to the end. The conditioning of some of the New York players was impressive. Glynn was better in the second half, he has good hands for a big man. O'Leary's Hayes who played for Cork is the size of a well built house. Mangangan was also outstanding at 12 for the yanks. They had a big panel over by the looks of it and plenty of support.
Can't see them being beaten next week as this game will bring them on a lot. They improved throughout and if they are tuned in next week could be better still." Sorry others that did well for Monaghan included Kevin Crawley at 6. James and Shane Slevin in the forwards, Ethan Flynn had some nice touches and Niall Arthur hit some fine scores. The two corner backs P Malone and Jack Guinan did well and gave Monaghan a platform on the short puck outs
MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 244 - 25/05/2025 19:53:39
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Replying To CastleBravo: "Well, I'd have no problem with that. It's a strange concept to even have them in inter county competitions to start with.
If you gathered together 30 talented but non-county players from Liam MacCarthy counties and asked the GAA to let this team enter the Lory Meagher, they'd be laughed out of it.
But if you call that bunch of players "New York" then they're more than welcome to play; in fact some people think it's something to celebrate that a gang of Irish players wearing New York jerseys beat teams representing their actual counties." Are you against London, Lancashire and Warwickshire playing in Ireland?
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2812 - 25/05/2025 20:27:39
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: " Replying To CastleBravo: "Well, I'd have no problem with that. It's a strange concept to even have them in inter county competitions to start with.
If you gathered together 30 talented but non-county players from Liam MacCarthy counties and asked the GAA to let this team enter the Lory Meagher, they'd be laughed out of it.
But if you call that bunch of players "New York" then they're more than welcome to play; in fact some people think it's something to celebrate that a gang of Irish players wearing New York jerseys beat teams representing their actual counties." Are you against London, Lancashire and Warwickshire playing in Ireland?"
I also don't mind them as much since they compete in the normal way, and don't have competitions turned inside out to accommodate them like New York.
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1680 - 25/05/2025 22:03:03
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Replying To MrPBoylan: "I was at the game yesterday in Mullingar. Monaghan did very well against a strong wind in the first half. They played some good stuff with the Monaghan full back Aaron Kenny keeping Glynn in check. To be fair the Monaghan fullback line did very well working the short puck outs and cutting out balls. Two points scored by New York in added time in the first half gave them a little cushion but with the wind it wasn't much of a comfort or a surprise.
New York blitzed Monaghan at the start of the second half and then their class told. To be fair to Monaghan they never threw in the towel and kept trying to the end. The conditioning of some of the New York players was impressive. Glynn was better in the second half, he has good hands for a big man. O'Leary's Hayes who played for Cork is the size of a well built house. Mangangan was also outstanding at 12 for the yanks. They had a big panel over by the looks of it and plenty of support.
Can't see them being beaten next week as this game will bring them on a lot. They improved throughout and if they are tuned in next week could be better still." That the overall worry i suppose is that they are only getting going. Personally i don't have an issue with NY playing at all its just at the correct level of competition. From another report elsewhere, it Monaghan deserved credit but the report suggest NY were only in 2nd or 3rd gear.
ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 568 - 26/05/2025 14:08:36
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Replying To Firceall: "Congratulations to New York. Not New York's fault but was ompletey unfair on Monaghan and other Teams in tge championship. Has denied them or other team who put effort in to get to a semi final, the opportunity to play in Croke Park. Of course the format was agreed and known in advance, but doesn't mean it is fair.
As NY only get a max of 2 matches, how about the winners of the Rackard and Ring cups are invited over to New York to compete in a three way competition instead. The incentive would help promote hurling in the counties in those competitions and also in NY." That is a very good proposal. And such is the level of complaining and defeatism among most of you, Ireland should be allowed to send two winners. The winners of whatever the competitions involved, McDonagh and Ring, and we could field two teams: our A team would take on the better Irish team, and our B team could take on the winner of the lower competition. We could call the final in Ireland the 'home' final and the one over here, the 'real' final.
Would that keep you happy and stop your whinging?
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2265 - 26/05/2025 17:13:33
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Stop making things up. New York are 1/12 to win, Monaghan 15/2." I made nothing up. The price was 1/100 when I posted that
Link to a screengrab of the odds at the time here
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2480 - 27/05/2025 11:29:15
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Replying To foreveryoung: "That is a very good proposal. And such is the level of complaining and defeatism among most of you, Ireland should be allowed to send two winners. The winners of whatever the competitions involved, McDonagh and Ring, and we could field two teams: our A team would take on the better Irish team, and our B team could take on the winner of the lower competition. We could call the final in Ireland the 'home' final and the one over here, the 'real' final.
Would that keep you happy and stop your whinging?" I think it's great to see New York compete again in the hurling Championship. Question: If New York win the Lory Meagher cup do they compete in the Nicky Rackard next year.
brookerbruiser (Dublin) - Posts: 11 - 27/05/2025 12:20:21
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Replying To brookerbruiser: "I think it's great to see New York compete again in the hurling Championship. Question: If New York win the Lory Meagher cup do they compete in the Nicky Rackard next year." Yes. Most likely at semi final stage again. If they lose I think the bottom team in NR pays them in semi final a week later, so they're guaranteed two games.
I think a home gown team should be sent but then again I know nothing about hurling really. Could be due to not getting funding/ sponsorship for the trip if a slim chance of success. I think the Irish team should travel to them but suppose money is the object there too, smaller hurling counties may not be able to raise the funds if football is the main objective
gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 639 - 27/05/2025 20:28:58
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Replying To gaelsboy: "Yes. Most likely at semi final stage again. If they lose I think the bottom team in NR pays them in semi final a week later, so they're guaranteed two games.
I think a home gown team should be sent but then again I know nothing about hurling really. Could be due to not getting funding/ sponsorship for the trip if a slim chance of success. I think the Irish team should travel to them but suppose money is the object there too, smaller hurling counties may not be able to raise the funds if football is the main objective" Let part of winning these competitions be a 'player grant' of say 1000 euro per player (capped at 36) that can only be used towards hurling promotion in an underdeveloped zone (i.e., the cost of the trip to NYC where hurling is but in its infancy). But the amateur-status brigade will object to that (even when everyone else involved in milking it out of the GAA, except the poor players). It would also cause NY to have stronger teams. Let's just say what you saw at the weekend didn't have players who may have issues getting back in. On home ground, we could field them all (watch out Laois, Westmeath, and Kildare).
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2265 - 28/05/2025 02:36:17
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Let part of winning these competitions be a 'player grant' of say 1000 euro per player (capped at 36) that can only be used towards hurling promotion in an underdeveloped zone (i.e., the cost of the trip to NYC where hurling is but in its infancy). But the amateur-status brigade will object to that (even when everyone else involved in milking it out of the GAA, except the poor players). It would also cause NY to have stronger teams. Let's just say what you saw at the weekend didn't have players who may have issues getting back in. On home ground, we could field them all (watch out Laois, Westmeath, and Kildare)." A true Trumpian. To hell with volunteerism bring out the dollars. Maybe Croker Park should read your posts and deal with the Shamaturism of North American GAA which clubs in Ireland has to endure every year.
The solution is simple let them have their All North American championship and let us have our All Ireland's and if they want to challenge McCarthy,Mcdonagh or Ring champions let them fly them over to Trumplandia.
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1718 - 28/05/2025 14:12:40
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Replying To jobber: "A true Trumpian. To hell with volunteerism bring out the dollars. Maybe Croker Park should read your posts and deal with the Shamaturism of North American GAA which clubs in Ireland has to endure every year.
The solution is simple let them have their All North American championship and let us have our All Ireland's and if they want to challenge McCarthy,Mcdonagh or Ring champions let them fly them over to Trumplandia." OH! Westmeath is running scared already. Some jobber you'd have been back in the day of the cattle fairs, I bet, giving away the cattle for half nothing at the first bid.
The dollars are out already, have been for years. Don't know where you've been hiding your little head.
We don't need division. We need association. Isn't your fine organization called the Gaelic athletic association after all? So, please feel free to send over your best teams, we'll do our best to be ready.
It may take WM a decade or two to get up to the levels of Laois, Carlow, and Kildare, but please keep at it and you too can have your day in the BIG APPLE!
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2265 - 28/05/2025 19:43:09
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Replying To foreveryoung: "OH! Westmeath is running scared already. Some jobber you'd have been back in the day of the cattle fairs, I bet, giving away the cattle for half nothing at the first bid.
The dollars are out already, have been for years. Don't know where you've been hiding your little head.
We don't need division. We need association. Isn't your fine organization called the Gaelic athletic association after all? So, please feel free to send over your best teams, we'll do our best to be ready.
It may take WM a decade or two to get up to the levels of Laois, Carlow, and Kildare, but please keep at it and you too can have your day in the BIG APPLE!" Another wind up merchant.I wouldn't be seen dead in that kip.Have a nice day
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1718 - 29/05/2025 10:51:25
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