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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "I didn't ignore it because I didn't see what you were talking about. However reading between the lines you reckon that there is a possibility there would be no bids or reduced bids in 2028 for gaa championship rights? I would find it hard to believe there would be no bids, and reduced amounts being offered for said rights would buck the trend of tv sporting rights increasing in price in general. In other words that won't happen. And you are right, I predict more games will go on gaapaywall in future to drive consumers to pay for a subscription, current numbers they won't let us know as I'd imagine it is very much on the low side. I have zero issue with gaapaywall for customers outside of Ireland btw" A blind man could see what I talking about. Again, you display your complete lack of understanding about the business of sport. GAA+ had to be introduced to protect the GAA 'product'... I don't know how it is so hard for you to understand that no one was interested in broadcasting additional games... when Sky pulled out Virgin Media were approached. After months of discussions, they didn't even make a bid. The bottom line is that any decision, by the GAA, on whether games stay on free to air TV or not is based on revenue. There's NO guarantee that RTE will continue to pay at the levels they have been and the GAA doesn't have to accept any deal that they're not happy with. At any point the GAA could decide to move all games to a pay per view model (unlikely but they could) however the main reason GAA+ exists is so that the GAA can use it as a bargaining chip when negotiating future media deals. Here to fore, their bargaining power was limited enough. At the end of the day, the GAA is doing all this to protect their ability to re-invest in the game, a blind man can see that. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 26/06/2025 15:02:22 2621266 Link
Replying To Square_B: "A blind man could see what I talking about. Again, you display your complete lack of understanding about the business of sport. GAA+ had to be introduced to protect the GAA 'product'... I don't know how it is so hard for you to understand that no one was interested in broadcasting additional games... when Sky pulled out Virgin Media were approached. After months of discussions, they didn't even make a bid. The bottom line is that any decision, by the GAA, on whether games stay on free to air TV or not is based on revenue. There's NO guarantee that RTE will continue to pay at the levels they have been and the GAA doesn't have to accept any deal that they're not happy with. At any point the GAA could decide to move all games to a pay per view model (unlikely but they could) however the main reason GAA+ exists is so that the GAA can use it as a bargaining chip when negotiating future media deals. Here to fore, their bargaining power was limited enough. At the end of the day, the GAA is doing all this to protect their ability to re-invest in the game, a blind man can see that." We can't all be visionaries like yourself alas when it comes to GAA matters. You neglect to mention however that TG4 bid for a championship package and weren't successful They were interested in broadcasting additional games so I don't know how hard it is for you to understand that there were interested parties and the gaa said no, we'll continue to paywall. The business of sport has shown that when cricket and rugby went behind paywalls in England, interest and indeed participation in those sports fell off. But sure you know better. boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 26/06/2025 16:22:01 2621303 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "We can't all be visionaries like yourself alas when it comes to GAA matters. You neglect to mention however that TG4 bid for a championship package and weren't successful They were interested in broadcasting additional games so I don't know how hard it is for you to understand that there were interested parties and the gaa said no, we'll continue to paywall. The business of sport has shown that when cricket and rugby went behind paywalls in England, interest and indeed participation in those sports fell off. But sure you know better." The GAA has the right to control their product and get the best price for it. TG4 obviously didn't bid enough so the games went to GAA+. How hard is that for you to understand? Whether I know better or not is irrelevant but don't come here with a half ***, uniformed opinion and expect people to play nodding dogs with you. Square_B (Leitrim)** - Posts: 1411 - 26/06/2025 16:55:16 2621317 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "We can't all be visionaries like yourself alas when it comes to GAA matters. You neglect to mention however that TG4 bid for a championship package and weren't successful They were interested in broadcasting additional games so I don't know how hard it is for you to understand that there were interested parties and the gaa said no, we'll continue to paywall. The business of sport has shown that when cricket and rugby went behind paywalls in England, interest and indeed participation in those sports fell off. But sure you know better." "...when cricket and rugby went behind paywalls in England, interest and indeed participation in those sports fell off." Unlike cricket and rugby in England, there are plenty of top class football and hurling matches broadcast for free in Ireland. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2855 - 26/06/2025 17:15:21 2621319 Link
Replying To Square_B: "The GAA has the right to control their product and get the best price for it. TG4 obviously didn't bid enough so the games went to GAA+. How hard is that for you to understand? Whether I know better or not is irrelevant but don't come here with a half ***, uniformed opinion and expect people to play nodding dogs with you." You said there were no bids, now you're saying a non existent bid didn't bid enough. Which is it? I don't expect any nodding dogs, not here for that. But you are I think, which is fine, fair play to you boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim)** - Posts: 416 - 26/06/2025 19:08:22 2621346 Link
Replying To Square_B: "The GAA has the right to control their product and get the best price for it. TG4 obviously didn't bid enough so the games went to GAA+. How hard is that for you to understand? Whether I know better or not is irrelevant but don't come here with a half ***, uniformed opinion and expect people to play nodding dogs with you." What kind of money did tg4 offer? Interesting they had the lions game in Dublin and urc next season so money can't be that low. Urc brings in 70m for the owners whereas in England it's 45m. What do the GAA want on average per game I wonder? Rte paid 50k to show selbournes European game. Galicia TV had rights to all Ireland finals I wonder what was the money involved? Even 7 in Australia had rights to show GAA games in the past but gaago killed it. How much money did the GAA lose by not showing Kerry v Meath ? I would love to watch that game this week to Judge Galway against meath or Kerry against Armagh. Kew (Galway)** - Posts: 217 - 26/06/2025 20:43:14 2621359 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "You said there were no bids, now you're saying a non existent bid didn't bid enough. Which is it? I don't expect any nodding dogs, not here for that. But you are I think, which is fine, fair play to you" Oh my, well my apologies for forgetting about TG4. Happy? Back to the reality of the suitation, which doesn't change no matter what way you try to spin it. GAA+ is here to stay, it's a decent product for the price & amount of games available on it. Less than €2eur a game if you buy an annual subscription. The GAA are well within their rights to get the best price for their product, that is unless you believe in magic money trees or the like. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 26/06/2025 22:33:02 2621384 Link
Replying To Kew: "What kind of money did tg4 offer? Interesting they had the lions game in Dublin and urc next season so money can't be that low. Urc brings in 70m for the owners whereas in England it's 45m. What do the GAA want on average per game I wonder? Rte paid 50k to show selbournes European game. Galicia TV had rights to all Ireland finals I wonder what was the money involved? Even 7 in Australia had rights to show GAA games in the past but gaago killed it. How much money did the GAA lose by not showing Kerry v Meath ? I would love to watch that game this week to Judge Galway against meath or Kerry against Armagh." They won't release their subscriber numbers for gaagoplus boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 26/06/2025 22:48:35 2621387 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Oh my, well my apologies for forgetting about TG4. Happy? Back to the reality of the suitation, which doesn't change no matter what way you try to spin it. GAA+ is here to stay, it's a decent product for the price & amount of games available on it. Less than €2eur a game if you buy an annual subscription. The GAA are well within their rights to get the best price for their product, that is unless you believe in magic money trees or the like." I never said they weren't entitled to have gaapaywall. You're spinning there. I am not sure what you are on about magic money trees but have at it. boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 09:47:18 2621418 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "I never said they weren't entitled to have gaapaywall. You're spinning there. I am not sure what you are on about magic money trees but have at it." Well what's your issue so? The games aren't on TV for free? Boo hoo, that's tough. The GAA is a business and are entitled to maximise their income in whatever way they see fit. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 27/06/2025 10:28:10 2621429 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "They won't release their subscriber numbers for gaagoplus" That's because they don't have very many… Everyone nowadays has a Firestick so no need to subscribe to the Grab All….. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4139 - 27/06/2025 10:47:24 2621442 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Well what's your issue so? The games aren't on TV for free? Boo hoo, that's tough. The GAA is a business and are entitled to maximise their income in whatever way they see fit." I don't have an issue? Again I don't know what you are talking about. boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 11:27:17 2621456 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "I don't have an issue? Again I don't know what you are talking about." So no issue with GAA+ at all? That's odd because quite clearly you do. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 27/06/2025 12:57:20 2621493 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "That's because they don't have very many… Everyone nowadays has a Firestick so no need to subscribe to the Grab All….." Yawn... it's alright, the GAA aren't targeting anyone in Cavan as ye pay for nothing anyhow. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 27/06/2025 12:58:23 2621494 Link
Replying To Square_B: "So no issue with GAA+ at all? That's odd because quite clearly you do." The most important games i.e. the All Ireland series games should not be behind this paywall. However until the govt steps in that's how it will be. I won't be buying it but anyone who does fair play to them, hope they are enjoying the poor production boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 13:16:08 2621502 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "The most important games i.e. the All Ireland series games should not be behind this paywall. However until the govt steps in that's how it will be. I won't be buying it but anyone who does fair play to them, hope they are enjoying the poor production" Oh so you can watch them for free? Get it. The entitlement is unreal. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 27/06/2025 13:55:28 2621516 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Yawn... it's alright, the GAA aren't targeting anyone in Cavan as ye pay for nothing anyhow." The whole of the country at this stage has a Firestick including most pubs… nobody but a fool is subscribing to GAA+…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4139 - 27/06/2025 14:07:54 2621521 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Oh so you can watch them for free? Get it. The entitlement is unreal." I don't watch them for free, I have to pay a tv licence boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 14:27:44 2621526 Link
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "I don't watch them for free, I have to pay a tv licence" Oh I'd say you do for sure..... you & ths Cavanlad are the first up to the hand over the shillings for the good auld TV licence. You're a gas one. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 27/06/2025 14:55:29 2621536 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Oh I'd say you do for sure..... you & ths Cavanlad are the first up to the hand over the shillings for the good auld TV licence. You're a gas one." I don't know that username cavanlad, so not sure what she is commenting. boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 15:20:52 2621550 Link