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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Any idea what's the story with Ian carty? Would absolutely love to have him back. Serious all round athlete."
I'd love him to come back too. He ran the Melbourne marathon in 4 hours while on the phone to his family for alot of it! He's been doing hard physical work over there too. Have to see how the summer goes.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 02/07/2025 21:18:30    2623275

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "GK is a bit of question mark at the moment, Fanning has been around a long time and don't know when he's going to step away, his puck-outs have hardly been great though (His short ones at the weekend were poor enough), hard to know who his successor should be

I'd be happy enough with Eoin Ryan, a fairly dependable player although he needs to improve his on-ball ability. Donohoe has been a great servant and has a great attitude but we need to get younger. Shane Reck is 29 next year and while he's very good when fit, he's been getting way too many injuries and when you start getting them, you don't stop getting them. Similar for Jippo who I could see stepping away. It's a pity that Joe Barrett seems to have no interest in joining the senior panel, would be an ideal corner-back. I like Conor Foley but he's not a full-back and that's a problem position for us. I think Eoin Whelan is a better prospect than Darragh Kehoe but both are still options at 3 as is Michael Dundon who, if he is to play at Senior level, is a full-back rather than a centre-back

Damien Reck would be a lot better on the wing, his best year for us was in 2022 when on the wing. Molloy is a natural 6 and is good in the air, could have either Foley or Carley as the other wing-back (With the other maybe in midfield). Foley would give you more dog in the middle while Carley would give you more scoring power, Carley may be the long-term Conor Hearne replacement.

Outside of Chin, Hearne was probably our best hurler this year. Richie Lawlor is good in the air but others are better ball-strikers and he lacks scoring power so I'd rather him in the middle, has the ability to impact games at Senior level but has to go out and do it.

CBD has to bulk up, has all the talent in the world but you can't let yourself be physically manhandled. Can score from distance and is a really good playmaker, a free role at 11 or maybe midfield would suit him best but he has to earn the right to get a free role. Jack Redmond had the physical capabilities to be a good wing-forward, would like to see them work on him improving his speed, Tucker Kinsella has the frame to be a good wing-forward but he needs to bulk up and show more dog, has the ability to score at this level if he does those two things. Don't know what Seán Rowley's best position will be and would worry that a bad hamstring injury could hurt his speed which is his biggest asset. Like his attitude and has a good frame to him as well, bit raw but if he continues to improve his hurling, he has massive potential

Rory had an ok year but you're always left with the sense that there's meat on the bone with him, he has the ability to be one of the best forwards in Ireland. Cian Byrne wasn't as successful this year as he was in 2023 but I feel he was carrying an injury towards the end of the campaign, a bit like his brother who looked like he was playing injured at U20 level. Simon Roche looked on Saturday that he could be starting for Wexford next year, not that big but has a good build, could play him anywhere in the full-forward line or at 11. Conor Mac is Conor Mac, would say he didn't win most of the balls that went into him on Saturday but was still able to get 1-01, he's always had that goal-scoring ability and it's not to be sniffed at but if he's not able to physically bully the full-back, he's not going to be winning most of the ball that goes into him

Chin is Chin and needs no introduction, Kevin Foley had a good year but CBD will probably replace him soon enough (Or at least you'd be hoping that CBD kicks on enough for that to happen), Dunbar and Jacko are replaceable

I do think there's a good young spine to the team coming through but we're probably two years into that transition and there's likely another two years still to go. Will Chin be around then? Will ROC, Shane Reck, Damien Reck, and Conor Hearne be hurling to the same level then? What's really killing us now is our lack of good 24-26yos, they should be the backbone of any team and they'd have aided Chin and co but we pretty much had no-one come through"
I don't think it's that we had nobody come through, it's that Davy didn't introduce anybody at the right time. We basically lost that group altogether.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3798 - 02/07/2025 22:38:57    2623286

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "GK is a bit of question mark at the moment, Fanning has been around a long time and don't know when he's going to step away, his puck-outs have hardly been great though (His short ones at the weekend were poor enough), hard to know who his successor should be

I'd be happy enough with Eoin Ryan, a fairly dependable player although he needs to improve his on-ball ability. Donohoe has been a great servant and has a great attitude but we need to get younger. Shane Reck is 29 next year and while he's very good when fit, he's been getting way too many injuries and when you start getting them, you don't stop getting them. Similar for Jippo who I could see stepping away. It's a pity that Joe Barrett seems to have no interest in joining the senior panel, would be an ideal corner-back. I like Conor Foley but he's not a full-back and that's a problem position for us. I think Eoin Whelan is a better prospect than Darragh Kehoe but both are still options at 3 as is Michael Dundon who, if he is to play at Senior level, is a full-back rather than a centre-back

Damien Reck would be a lot better on the wing, his best year for us was in 2022 when on the wing. Molloy is a natural 6 and is good in the air, could have either Foley or Carley as the other wing-back (With the other maybe in midfield). Foley would give you more dog in the middle while Carley would give you more scoring power, Carley may be the long-term Conor Hearne replacement.

Outside of Chin, Hearne was probably our best hurler this year. Richie Lawlor is good in the air but others are better ball-strikers and he lacks scoring power so I'd rather him in the middle, has the ability to impact games at Senior level but has to go out and do it.

CBD has to bulk up, has all the talent in the world but you can't let yourself be physically manhandled. Can score from distance and is a really good playmaker, a free role at 11 or maybe midfield would suit him best but he has to earn the right to get a free role. Jack Redmond had the physical capabilities to be a good wing-forward, would like to see them work on him improving his speed, Tucker Kinsella has the frame to be a good wing-forward but he needs to bulk up and show more dog, has the ability to score at this level if he does those two things. Don't know what Seán Rowley's best position will be and would worry that a bad hamstring injury could hurt his speed which is his biggest asset. Like his attitude and has a good frame to him as well, bit raw but if he continues to improve his hurling, he has massive potential

Rory had an ok year but you're always left with the sense that there's meat on the bone with him, he has the ability to be one of the best forwards in Ireland. Cian Byrne wasn't as successful this year as he was in 2023 but I feel he was carrying an injury towards the end of the campaign, a bit like his brother who looked like he was playing injured at U20 level. Simon Roche looked on Saturday that he could be starting for Wexford next year, not that big but has a good build, could play him anywhere in the full-forward line or at 11. Conor Mac is Conor Mac, would say he didn't win most of the balls that went into him on Saturday but was still able to get 1-01, he's always had that goal-scoring ability and it's not to be sniffed at but if he's not able to physically bully the full-back, he's not going to be winning most of the ball that goes into him

Chin is Chin and needs no introduction, Kevin Foley had a good year but CBD will probably replace him soon enough (Or at least you'd be hoping that CBD kicks on enough for that to happen), Dunbar and Jacko are replaceable

I do think there's a good young spine to the team coming through but we're probably two years into that transition and there's likely another two years still to go. Will Chin be around then? Will ROC, Shane Reck, Damien Reck, and Conor Hearne be hurling to the same level then? What's really killing us now is our lack of good 24-26yos, they should be the backbone of any team and they'd have aided Chin and co but we pretty much had no-one come through"
Surprised you think Darragh Carley is more of a scoring threat than Conor Foley. I think it's a strength of both of them tbh. Not sure Carley has the dog to be a midfielder.
Think Cian Byrne is our best young keeper at the moment.
Michael Dundon is a good big prospect also. Still think Darragh Kehoe has more of the dog required than the other 2 to be a top intercounty fullback down the line. Quicker in the turn also.
Apart from that can't really disagree with anything you have posted there.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 02/07/2025 22:39:32    2623287

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I don't think it's that we had nobody come through, it's that Davy didn't introduce anybody at the right time. We basically lost that group altogether."
He could have blooded in Conor Hearne earlier alright but looking at the lads who were from the next three U20/U21 teams after him, I don't really think we had that many players who were up to the necessary standard

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 594 - 03/07/2025 11:51:26    2623383

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Replying To Viking66:  "Surprised you think Darragh Carley is more of a scoring threat than Conor Foley. I think it's a strength of both of them tbh. Not sure Carley has the dog to be a midfielder.
Think Cian Byrne is our best young keeper at the moment.
Michael Dundon is a good big prospect also. Still think Darragh Kehoe has more of the dog required than the other 2 to be a top intercounty fullback down the line. Quicker in the turn also.
Apart from that can't really disagree with anything you have posted there."
Maybe Carley doesn't have the dog to be a midfielders but you could play him alongside someone who does, think he could work in the middle with Richie Lawlor for instance

Foley for me should in theory have the ability to score from wing-back but he hasn't really shown it to date at senior inter-county level

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 594 - 03/07/2025 11:53:02    2623384

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Maybe Carley doesn't have the dog to be a midfielders but you could play him alongside someone who does, think he could work in the middle with Richie Lawlor for instance

Foley for me should in theory have the ability to score from wing-back but he hasn't really shown it to date at senior inter-county level"
No stats to hand but from memory I thought he contributed fairly well last season on the scoreboard

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3798 - 03/07/2025 12:33:24    2623391

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Maybe Carley doesn't have the dog to be a midfielders but you could play him alongside someone who does, think he could work in the middle with Richie Lawlor for instance

Foley for me should in theory have the ability to score from wing-back but he hasn't really shown it to date at senior inter-county level"
Foley's been played in the fullback line an awful lot though. Even when named wingback. Not sure being a dog is what I'd consider one of Richies strong points either. Both him and Carley are lads who tend to sit outside rucks and wait for the ball to come out their way for example.
Conor Hearne is only 27? I think, I'd imagine he should have a good few years left. Id have David Codd ahead of Carley and Lawlor at midfield.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 03/07/2025 12:45:19    2623396

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Replying To Viking66:  "Foley's been played in the fullback line an awful lot though. Even when named wingback. Not sure being a dog is what I'd consider one of Richies strong points either. Both him and Carley are lads who tend to sit outside rucks and wait for the ball to come out their way for example.
Conor Hearne is only 27? I think, I'd imagine he should have a good few years left. Id have David Codd ahead of Carley and Lawlor at midfield."
Agreed on David Codd. If he hadn't picked up the injury in Portugal he'd have been first choice alongside Hearne.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3798 - 03/07/2025 12:51:03    2623398

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "He could have blooded in Conor Hearne earlier alright but looking at the lads who were from the next three U20/U21 teams after him, I don't really think we had that many players who were up to the necessary standard"
u20s who could've been looked at earlier, or ever-
James Lawlor, Niall Murphy, Ross Banville, Sean O'Connor and Conall Clancy started at u20 2 years in a row in 2019 and 2020. Not saying all were neccessarily good enough but they could've been given a chance to develop, been brought in and given Senior S and C, nutrition etc. James Byrne, a seriously underrated hurler, hurled u20 in 2020, is only getting his chance now. Diarmuid Doyle in 2019. David Codd hurled u20 in 2020, 2021, and 2022 and is only getting his chance now.
From our club Ian Carty was nominated for an u21 all-star in 2018 and only got called in in 2023, and Stephen O'Gorman started 2 years at u21 in 2017 and 2018 and only got a call in 2024 when he'd already paid for his ticket to Oz. Plenty more good prospects off that u21 team of 2018 got ignored for a few years also.
We had a good Senior panel backboned by the lads who were u21 in 2013, 2014 and 2015, but we completely took our eye off the ball as regards squad/panel development under Davy, and only really started thinking about it again in Darragh Egans last year, by when it was probably too late for alot of lads in terms of continuous development.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 03/07/2025 13:05:50    2623401

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "No stats to hand but from memory I thought he contributed fairly well last season on the scoreboard"
By last season, do you mean 2024 or 2025? Can't remember him scoring much this season anyway (0-01 in the league) although was playing a lot in the full-back line, looks like he got 0-03 in the 2024 league and then 0-03 from play and 0-01 from a sideline in the 2024 Championship

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 594 - 03/07/2025 14:08:37    2623433

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Replying To Viking66:  "u20s who could've been looked at earlier, or ever-
James Lawlor, Niall Murphy, Ross Banville, Sean O'Connor and Conall Clancy started at u20 2 years in a row in 2019 and 2020. Not saying all were neccessarily good enough but they could've been given a chance to develop, been brought in and given Senior S and C, nutrition etc. James Byrne, a seriously underrated hurler, hurled u20 in 2020, is only getting his chance now. Diarmuid Doyle in 2019. David Codd hurled u20 in 2020, 2021, and 2022 and is only getting his chance now.
From our club Ian Carty was nominated for an u21 all-star in 2018 and only got called in in 2023, and Stephen O'Gorman started 2 years at u21 in 2017 and 2018 and only got a call in 2024 when he'd already paid for his ticket to Oz. Plenty more good prospects off that u21 team of 2018 got ignored for a few years also.
We had a good Senior panel backboned by the lads who were u21 in 2013, 2014 and 2015, but we completely took our eye off the ball as regards squad/panel development under Davy, and only really started thinking about it again in Darragh Egans last year, by when it was probably too late for alot of lads in terms of continuous development."
Agree 100% with all of this.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3798 - 03/07/2025 14:44:30    2623442

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "By last season, do you mean 2024 or 2025? Can't remember him scoring much this season anyway (0-01 in the league) although was playing a lot in the full-back line, looks like he got 0-03 in the 2024 league and then 0-03 from play and 0-01 from a sideline in the 2024 Championship"
I was talking about 24, just remember him popping up with a few long rangers, the most notable being Galway in the park

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3798 - 03/07/2025 14:49:43    2623443

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Replying To Viking66:  "u20s who could've been looked at earlier, or ever-
James Lawlor, Niall Murphy, Ross Banville, Sean O'Connor and Conall Clancy started at u20 2 years in a row in 2019 and 2020. Not saying all were neccessarily good enough but they could've been given a chance to develop, been brought in and given Senior S and C, nutrition etc. James Byrne, a seriously underrated hurler, hurled u20 in 2020, is only getting his chance now. Diarmuid Doyle in 2019. David Codd hurled u20 in 2020, 2021, and 2022 and is only getting his chance now.
From our club Ian Carty was nominated for an u21 all-star in 2018 and only got called in in 2023, and Stephen O'Gorman started 2 years at u21 in 2017 and 2018 and only got a call in 2024 when he'd already paid for his ticket to Oz. Plenty more good prospects off that u21 team of 2018 got ignored for a few years also.
We had a good Senior panel backboned by the lads who were u21 in 2013, 2014 and 2015, but we completely took our eye off the ball as regards squad/panel development under Davy, and only really started thinking about it again in Darragh Egans last year, by when it was probably too late for alot of lads in terms of continuous development."
If only we had a county board to intervene instead they doubled down and went full steam ahead until the wheels fell off the bandwagon

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 03/07/2025 14:58:23    2623445

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "By last season, do you mean 2024 or 2025? Can't remember him scoring much this season anyway (0-01 in the league) although was playing a lot in the full-back line, looks like he got 0-03 in the 2024 league and then 0-03 from play and 0-01 from a sideline in the 2024 Championship"
He's a midfielder/half forward all his life. Only got moved to wingback at u20 by Keith to fill a hole.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 03/07/2025 15:02:56    2623446

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Agree 100% with all of this."
Forgot Mossey Murphy, he was also on the u20 team of 2021. Tough bit of stuff, and good hurler.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 03/07/2025 15:06:14    2623448

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "If only we had a county board to intervene instead they doubled down and went full steam ahead until the wheels fell off the bandwagon"
The Board consist largely of excellent administrators. I'm pretty sure if they interfered with playing matters you would be the 1st to ask what the #### are they doing?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 03/07/2025 15:08:04    2623449

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I was talking about 24, just remember him popping up with a few long rangers, the most notable being Galway in the park"
Think he got a couple points against Kilkenny in the League in Nowlan Park in 24 also, from Fullback!!!! Got GAA HOTW that week.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 03/07/2025 15:09:33    2623450

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Replying To Viking66:  "The Board consist largely of excellent administrators. I'm pretty sure if they interfered with playing matters you would be the 1st to ask what the #### are they doing?"
Before davy was given an extension lots of people were bringing up the point that new players were not being blooded. He even brought players back on in a game after being taken off due to cramp. Completely ignored any player outside his top 18 or 19 for FIVE YEARS.

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 03/07/2025 16:04:30    2623466

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Replying To Viking66:  "The Board consist largely of excellent administrators. I'm pretty sure if they interfered with playing matters you would be the 1st to ask what the #### are they doing?"
All I'm saying is surely someone could have raised concerns about developing players for the future.

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 03/07/2025 16:37:54    2623474

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "All I'm saying is surely someone could have raised concerns about developing players for the future."
That's very true too.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16479 - 03/07/2025 17:09:43    2623483

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