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Replying To Viking66:  "The figure wasn't for development squads, it was for u14-u20 squads. You had the most."
Ah OK

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 542 - 23/06/2025 13:32:58    2620286

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's nonsense the last Board meeting was dominated time wise by discussion of our underage to adult teams.
Clare are doing plenty right ok, but really this Waterford group seem more like an exceptional group since they were u14, in general their results at underage have been pretty poor since their last exceptionally good group that won the AI U21 title in 2016."
And.....we are not making progress like the original poster said Viking. We see.not making progress and that's the nuts and bolts of it

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 424 - 23/06/2025 14:26:00    2620318

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Replying To countyman2022:  "We are light years behind Clare."
We are. I've made that point myself a few times the last few years. Including this week. We have adopted some of things they have been doing the last 4 or 5 years last year and this year, but it will take a while to come through from u14 upwards.
The big problem we seem to have is that lads who are consistently competitive at u14-u16 the last few years haven't been when they step up to minor. There seems to be a problem between u16 and minor, and I'm really not sure what that is. They were training 3 times a week since the beginning of December this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16382 - 23/06/2025 16:25:48    2620394

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Limerick looked very poor today amazing how quick they have deterioted and all the money pumped into them had a very poor leauge and championship thought they would pick it up."
Limerick were unbelievably arrogant from the first minute, credit to the Dubs for giving everything they had. Must be one of the biggest shocks in GAA history in a knock out game. Unfortunately, we can't rely on our lads giving their absolute all from the first to the last minute - Galway game as just one example.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 429 - 23/06/2025 17:48:27    2620454

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Replying To Viking66:  "We are. I've made that point myself a few times the last few years. Including this week. We have adopted some of things they have been doing the last 4 or 5 years last year and this year, but it will take a while to come through from u14 upwards.
The big problem we seem to have is that lads who are consistently competitive at u14-u16 the last few years haven't been when they step up to minor. There seems to be a problem between u16 and minor, and I'm really not sure what that is. They were training 3 times a week since the beginning of December this year."
You'd have to think it's a mental thing, an S&C thing, or a coaching things because it's hard to put a fall-off in performance from U14-U16 to Minor down to ability

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 579 - 23/06/2025 18:01:35    2620457

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Replying To WEXILE:  "And.....we are not making progress like the original poster said Viking. We see.not making progress and that's the nuts and bolts of it"
What progress do you want to see? We have more young lads turning into decent Senior Intercounty players than any other county right now. I agree we don't have many X factor, star type, hurlers coming through right now but neither do any other county. In any case I think you need to be born with that to a certain extent.
Other posters keep mentioning Dublin and Offaly but we have beaten Dublin at minor and u20 this year, the last 2 years our minors beat Offalys by double digits, and this year our minor hurlers beat a good Laois minor team who beat Offaly by 31 points in the previous round to us beating them. We beat Kilkenny and Cork well at minor last year also.
I agree it would be nice to see us win a minor title, but we would need a particularly good crop of lads with a particularly good management team over them, as every year there are very good teams playing for one county or another, though, with the exception of Clare the last 4 years, not the same counties every year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16382 - 23/06/2025 18:46:09    2620482

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Limerick looked very poor today amazing how quick they have deterioted and all the money pumped into them had a very poor leauge and championship thought they would pick it up."
They were seconds away from an All Ireland Semi Final. People on about all the money sound like the same begrudgers that were around complaining when Dublin were winning in Football. Saying they looked poor gives no credit to what Dublin did either.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2017 - 23/06/2025 19:13:14    2620489

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Limerick were unbelievably arrogant from the first minute, credit to the Dubs for giving everything they had. Must be one of the biggest shocks in GAA history in a knock out game. Unfortunately, we can't rely on our lads giving their absolute all from the first to the last minute - Galway game as just one example."
No point looking back all we can do is look forward to next year and try out new players no point going with the tried and tested we know thete just not good enough no matter how we try to defend some of them but thanks to all for putting their lifes on hold even though it didnt work out.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 23/06/2025 20:14:15    2620497

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A very very poor year for the Wexford seniors when you look at the progress Dublin have made in the championship.

Bolstered by a strong senior club championship in Dublin it must be said with Cuala and Na Fianna both winning all ireland senior club titles in the last 10 years and a very astute manager in Niall Ó Ceallacháin.

The intensity and workrate Dublin brought for 75mins with 14 men should be an eye opener to the Wexford players for what is the minimum requirement if you want to progress against the bigger successful counties.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 964 - 24/06/2025 09:09:53    2620541

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Watched it Sunday morning with no spoilers and nearly abandoned ship once the red card happened.
Whatever Dublin had on Sunday Wexford need to get into our psyche.
Wexford would have downed tools once the red happened and cried foul and victim. Dublin doubled down on the injustice of it and upped the ante.
The same happened our minors v Galway, heads drop.
We need to shift the mindset.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1878 - 24/06/2025 09:19:55    2620546

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Replying To Past hurler:  "A very very poor year for the Wexford seniors when you look at the progress Dublin have made in the championship.

Bolstered by a strong senior club championship in Dublin it must be said with Cuala and Na Fianna both winning all ireland senior club titles in the last 10 years and a very astute manager in Niall Ó Ceallacháin.

The intensity and workrate Dublin brought for 75mins with 14 men should be an eye opener to the Wexford players for what is the minimum requirement if you want to progress against the bigger successful counties."
Don't know if the Dublin championship is as strong as you make it out to be, Na Fianna and Kilmacud are both very strong and Vincent's are good too but both Cuala and Ballyboden seem to have fallen off and outside of them, there's a big enough gap between the top three and the rest

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 579 - 24/06/2025 10:52:33    2620590

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Watched it Sunday morning with no spoilers and nearly abandoned ship once the red card happened.
Whatever Dublin had on Sunday Wexford need to get into our psyche.
Wexford would have downed tools once the red happened and cried foul and victim. Dublin doubled down on the injustice of it and upped the ante.
The same happened our minors v Galway, heads drop.
We need to shift the mindset."
That is one thing we firmly agree on.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3754 - 24/06/2025 10:55:05    2620593

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Watched it Sunday morning with no spoilers and nearly abandoned ship once the red card happened.
Whatever Dublin had on Sunday Wexford need to get into our psyche.
Wexford would have downed tools once the red happened and cried foul and victim. Dublin doubled down on the injustice of it and upped the ante.
The same happened our minors v Galway, heads drop.
We need to shift the mindset."
Tbh, while I agree about how well Dublin responded to the setback, it would be fairer to describe it as a "perceived injustice" rather than a straight-up "injustice" IMO, Hegarty exaggerated the contact and the contact wasn't really that bad but AFAIK, the rules state that any attempt to strike with minimal force are a red card. Roy Keane likes to look back at his red cards and wonder "Did he give the referee the option to send him off?". Unfortunately for Crummey, when you needlessly put out an elbow like that, you're giving the referee the option to send you off regardless of how bad the actual contact is

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 579 - 24/06/2025 10:57:14    2620596

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Don't know if the Dublin championship is as strong as you make it out to be, Na Fianna and Kilmacud are both very strong and Vincent's are good too but both Cuala and Ballyboden seem to have fallen off and outside of them, there's a big enough gap between the top three and the rest"
But sure couldn't you say that about most hurling championships in Ireland?

You've the same top 2 or 3 strong in a lot of countries, Ballyhale, O Loughlin Gaels and James Stephen's (not of late) in Kilkenny usually share the spoils there. Thomastown won the SHC in Kilkenny last year but were bet early in Leinster by a Westmeath club so the standard does drop off.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 964 - 24/06/2025 12:20:12    2620650

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Tbh, while I agree about how well Dublin responded to the setback, it would be fairer to describe it as a "perceived injustice" rather than a straight-up "injustice" IMO, Hegarty exaggerated the contact and the contact wasn't really that bad but AFAIK, the rules state that any attempt to strike with minimal force are a red card. Roy Keane likes to look back at his red cards and wonder "Did he give the referee the option to send him off?". Unfortunately for Crummey, when you needlessly put out an elbow like that, you're giving the referee the option to send you off regardless of how bad the actual contact is"
No debate on red card for me. Crummey clocked Lee Chin with a similar enough cheap shot in our game and got away with it. Can have no complaints, a jaw breaker if he connected with Hegarty properly with his elbow.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 429 - 24/06/2025 12:20:14    2620651

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Replying To Timbertony:  "No debate on red card for me. Crummey clocked Lee Chin with a similar enough cheap shot in our game and got away with it. Can have no complaints, a jaw breaker if he connected with Hegarty properly with his elbow."
Hard to spot in real time but I. Slow motion the one on chinner looked worse

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3754 - 24/06/2025 12:34:56    2620660

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Replying To Past hurler:  "But sure couldn't you say that about most hurling championships in Ireland?

You've the same top 2 or 3 strong in a lot of countries, Ballyhale, O Loughlin Gaels and James Stephen's (not of late) in Kilkenny usually share the spoils there. Thomastown won the SHC in Kilkenny last year but were bet early in Leinster by a Westmeath club so the standard does drop off."
The village are Intermediate this year

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16382 - 24/06/2025 14:42:07    2620712

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Don't know if the Dublin championship is as strong as you make it out to be, Na Fianna and Kilmacud are both very strong and Vincent's are good too but both Cuala and Ballyboden seem to have fallen off and outside of them, there's a big enough gap between the top three and the rest"
Cuala doing better at Football these days ok. But you are talking about massive clubs there by Wexford standards

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16382 - 24/06/2025 14:43:57    2620713

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Replying To Past hurler:  "A very very poor year for the Wexford seniors when you look at the progress Dublin have made in the championship.

Bolstered by a strong senior club championship in Dublin it must be said with Cuala and Na Fianna both winning all ireland senior club titles in the last 10 years and a very astute manager in Niall Ó Ceallacháin.

The intensity and workrate Dublin brought for 75mins with 14 men should be an eye opener to the Wexford players for what is the minimum requirement if you want to progress against the bigger successful counties."
Don't understand the 1st part of your post. "Very very poor year when you look at the progress Dublin have made". There wasn't much in our game against Dublin, we had just stretched 3 points clear before the goal that didn't cross the line, despite a good few players not playing to their potential.
Dublin beating Limerick is a great result for them, and credit must go to their players and management. But why does that make our year very very poor instead of just poor? We have never got more than 6 points in a Leinster Round Robin, which is what we got this year.
We are well used to having poor years at this stage. Barring only a few years nearly every year has been a poor year since 1968. And nearly every year before 1955.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16382 - 24/06/2025 15:05:04    2620722

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Replying To Past hurler:  "A very very poor year for the Wexford seniors when you look at the progress Dublin have made in the championship.

Bolstered by a strong senior club championship in Dublin it must be said with Cuala and Na Fianna both winning all ireland senior club titles in the last 10 years and a very astute manager in Niall Ó Ceallacháin.

The intensity and workrate Dublin brought for 75mins with 14 men should be an eye opener to the Wexford players for what is the minimum requirement if you want to progress against the bigger successful counties."
Don't understand the 1st part of your post. "Very very poor year when you look at the progress Dublin have made". There wasn't much in our game against Dublin, we had just stretched 3 points clear before the goal that didn't cross the line, despite a good few players not playing to their potential.
Dublin beating Limerick is a great result for them, and credit must go to their players and management. But why does that make our year very very poor instead of just poor? We have never got more than 6 points in a Leinster Round Robin, which is what we got this year.
We are well used to having poor years at this stage. Barring only a few years nearly every year has been a poor year since 1968. And nearly every year before 1955.
What were you expecting from this year? I was hoping to get to a Leinster Final and see what happened after that, I always do at the start of every year, but I wasn't expecting us to as such.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16382 - 24/06/2025 15:06:41    2620723

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