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Armagh to open against Antrim as 2025 provincial football championship draws confirmed legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 12/10/2024 18:04:49 2574377 Link 1 |
Without meaning to sound rude but they are irrelevant. Did Armagh care about not winning Ulster last year? Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 803 - 12/10/2024 18:35:00 2574383 Link 1 |
Connacht by luck of the draw and Ulster serve up proper final contests anyway. A conundrum for provincial championships now is that there is no standout reward for winning. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 12/10/2024 18:53:23 2574391 Link 0 |
One of Clare Div 3 and unlikely to gain promotion, Tipp,Waterford two Div 4 teams will be in the All Ireland series group stage while the team that finishes 6th in Div and doesn't reach the provincial final who go into the Tailteann Cup. Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 240 - 12/10/2024 19:25:29 2574395 Link 0 |
Dublin vs Wicklow / Longford. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2913 - 12/10/2024 20:15:49 2574404 Link 1 |
If it is a Kerry v Clare final, it'll be in Killarney. Cork v Kerry in the semi-final, barring a shock, will be in Cork. Cork game Kerry a good game in the 2023 group stage and last year in the Munster semi-final in Killarney. Clare are nearly guaranteed Munster finalists and a Seed 2. They'll need a low ranked Seed 4 in the group, otherwise the top 3 in the group will more or less be a procession. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 12/10/2024 20:21:40 2574407 Link 0 |
The Wicklow v Longford winner will have home advantage? 2025 targets to win Division 4 and focus on the Tailteann Cup. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 12/10/2024 20:25:37 2574409 Link 0 |
That's not the case. It will be the team that finishes runner-up in Division 3 (i.e. the loser of the league final) that will lose out. Unless Down (Tailteann Cup winners) get relegated, in which case the Division 3 winner will also lose out.
CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 122 - 12/10/2024 20:27:56 2574410 Link 0 |
Tipperary , Waterford & Limerick are three of the worst teams in ireland , Clare will be in the Munster final as a division 3 team , Munster is a bit of a joke with only 3 proper teams in it .
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 717 - 12/10/2024 21:34:41 2574427 Link 0 |
Not necessarily the case that they'll have home advantage. Two of this year's quarter-finals were played in Portlaoise as a neutral venue (Wexford v Louth, and Kildare v Wicklow). Laois v Offaly was also played in Portlaoise, but was obviously a home venue for Laois. Dublin v Meath was played in Croke Park. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 12/10/2024 22:24:38 2574436 Link 0 |
The Munster Council must have a grá for Clare ..... they avoid Cork and Kerry more than the others.
bruffgael (Limerick) - Posts: 201 - 12/10/2024 22:30:56 2574439 Link 0 |
Waterford have done absolutely nothing in football unfortunately bruffgael (Limerick) - Posts: 201 - 12/10/2024 22:33:00 2574441 Link 0 |
Provincial winners get a cup for winning. It seems that only in Ulster do they really appreciate the honour of besting their province. Provincials should be completely separated from All Ireland Series, run through the league during break weeks. If some counties choose to take them less seriously that's their decision. Championship can be seeded based on league performance and not skewed to give Ulster a disadvantage after completing the toughest provincial championship. This would also make the leagues more competitive as counties won't have the second chance of reaching a Provincial Final to qualify for All Ireland series, when some provinces are not of an equal standard. How many more 'initiatives' do the GAA need to make the stronger counties stronger and the weaker teams weaker? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 12/10/2024 22:38:38 2574442 Link 0 |
Fair enough I was thinking of 2023 when Meath who finished 6th in Div 2 ended up in the Tailteann Cup.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 240 - 13/10/2024 00:07:47 2574450 Link 0 |
That happened in 2023 because there were three teams who finished below 16th (i.e. runner-up in Division 3) in the league who qualified otherwise - Westmeath as Tailteann Cup winners as well as Clare and Sligo as provincial finalists. In 2025 it's highly unlikely three teams outside of the top 16 will qualify. One is certain (the Munster finalist) but after that it is only if Down get relegated that they come into play. It means that the 6th team in Division 2 is almost certain to qualify. CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 122 - 13/10/2024 12:53:30 2574499 Link 0 |
And gets 1st seed spot in the group. Galway the manner they celebrated their Connacht final win this year showed they appreciated the honour. Leinster and Munster teams would likely be the same if Kerry and Dublin was beaten, separated from All Ireland Series will make provincials championship like the pre-season comps with teams playing 3rd strength teams or fielding a development panel I doubt Ulster especially will want that to happen to their competitive championship. For example Derry v Donegal in round 1 game will sell out, few if any of the All Ireland series group games will sell out and can see why that's getting scrapped in 2026 before the provincials. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3487 - 13/10/2024 21:01:15 2574642 Link 0 |
ALTERNATIVE PROVINCIAL DRAWS edu (Mayo) - Posts: 62 - 13/10/2024 22:04:49 2574656 Link 0 |
Award league points for Prov games? "Doubling up" make the games more valuable and reduce game load. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2889 - 15/10/2024 15:38:23 2575099 Link 0 |
Nice handy draw for Mayo so they should be able to concentrate on the all Ireland series this year. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 16/10/2024 01:26:29 2575188 Link 0 |
Let's just discuss the draw for what it is. Provincial councils are shooting themselves in the foot with open draws. Lower league counties getting through a weak lopsided draw to a provincial final are not gaining the respect of their own people. Munster football on paper only has a competitive semi-final to shout about. Ulster and Connacht should deliver good finals again. Connacht by luck of the draw. The question in Leinster then is can Louth deliver another competitive final performance, should they get there. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 16/10/2024 10:36:54 2575225 Link 0 |