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What do you think of this proposal to replace penalty shootouts? [url=]https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333512 My view is that it is broadly a good idea. There is a skill in penalty taking but it's not a core one of the game. This proposal allows all the skills of the game to be used and could be very exciting. But, I would have some concerns: 1. Is there any time limit on how long this extra period could last? What happens if teams are unable to score for an elongated period. It could take ages for two scores to happen and then an indefinite period for the golden score. Television coverage, for example, couldn't really cope with an indefinite period. Similarly, what would happen with an autumnal evening match, heading into darkness and no floodlights. 2. What happens if the weather conditions are such that they advantage one direction of play. So, say there's a strong wind blowing in one direction. Then whichever team wins the toss to play in that direction has a big advantage. A way to deal with that would be to switch ends after the first score but then one team would still have an advantage for the golden score. 3. A minor one would be to lose the 'overtime' name. Too American! CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 122 - 11/09/2024 16:50:17 2569438 Link
Replying To CeachtPeile: "What do you think of this proposal to replace penalty shootouts? Would the score have to be from play? Winning by a free.... One ref's free is another ref's wave play on. Penalties are definite, player v player. Defo lose the yank "overtime" nonsense. And have to be a time limit. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1960 - 11/09/2024 17:40:30 2569445 Link
Will players get time and a half for their overtime? Will they get triple time if the overtime is on a bank holiday? Hopefully the GPA can ballot their union members to discuss the players rights if overtime is approved. Lads might have trains to catch. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 11/09/2024 18:26:12 2569449 Link
What do you think of this proposal to replace penalty shootouts? If Team B scores a "2-pointer" after Team A scored a "point", does Team B win, or we go to the "golden score"? I think B wins as they "more than matched. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2895 - 16/09/2024 21:15:47 2570253 Link
It's the worst idea I have heard yet The team the scores the first one will then do every cynical foul in the book to stop the return score. An idea that worked well for Dublin in an all Ireland once. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 18/09/2024 07:48:40 2570498 Link
Replying To tirawleybaron: "It's the worst idea I have heard yet The team the scores the first one will then do every cynical foul in the book to stop the return score. An idea that worked well for Dublin in an all Ireland once." Sorry, just a mix up there on my part.... "What do you think of...." was just a cut/paste from CeachtPeile above (instead of me hitting 'reply'. So, my 2nd paragraph was just a question - as FRC proposed, does the higher overtime scoring team win the game? To your point, I see an initial goal as being particularly problematic - the scoring team would then board up. Maybe a work around is an initial "golden goal" wins it - the 2nd play is only after a point or 2-pointer. Your cynical foul point would just lead to the opposition getting closer to the score they need. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2895 - 18/09/2024 15:02:44 2570590 Link
It's a stupid idea with a silly name… The only way it should be considered is if after 2 periods of ET in a replay with the sides still level… Getting rid of replays was a stupid idea… no need for all this rushing through of games but I guess the GAA are more interested in concerts taking place in Croke park than Gaelic games come August….!!!! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 19/09/2024 10:14:52 2570690 Link
It's a stupid idea with a silly name… The only way it should be considered is if after 2 periods of ET in a replay with the sides still level… Getting rid of replays was a stupid idea… no need for all this rushing through of games but I guess the GAA are more interested in concerts taking place in Croke park than Gaelic games come August….!!!! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 19/09/2024 10:15:10 2570692 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "It's a stupid idea with a silly name… The only way it should be considered is if after 2 periods of ET in a replay with the sides still level… Getting rid of replays was a stupid idea… no need for all this rushing through of games but I guess the GAA are more interested in concerts taking place in Croke park than Gaelic games come August….!!!!" Think most real GAA people are more interested in club games taking place come August tbh. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 19/09/2024 11:36:03 2570713 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Think most real GAA people are more interested in club games taking place come August tbh." In the old days 28 counties in each code could get their club games moving in August with inter county for four teams still going. Not sure why that has changed in recent times. Zero reason why clubs knocked out in June or July can't have county finals taking place in September eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 19/09/2024 11:49:18 2570720 Link
Replying To eslinchickenmaryland: "In the old days 28 counties in each code could get their club games moving in August with inter county for four teams still going. Not sure why that has changed in recent times. Zero reason why clubs knocked out in June or July can't have county finals taking place in September" Yeah but with the whole gaa calender taking place in one year you cant afford to do that as county winning teams will then have to wait weeks without games in the club provincal championship as they have to wait for the other 4 teams to finish there championship StandHogan51 (Donegal) - Posts: 11 - 19/09/2024 14:32:26 2570764 Link
Replying To eslinchickenmaryland: "In the old days 28 counties in each code could get their club games moving in August with inter county for four teams still going. Not sure why that has changed in recent times. Zero reason why clubs knocked out in June or July can't have county finals taking place in September" We started our club championships in July. As did many other counties. There's absolutely no way you could get 16 games played by September, unless you had midweek games every week. Then you would be putting players welfare at serious risk. In the old days players were released back to their clubs for club championship games between intercounty games. But now there are way too many intercounty games for that to happen. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 19/09/2024 17:07:13 2570823 Link
Replying To omahant: "What do you think of this proposal to replace penalty shootouts? If Team B scores a "2-pointer" after Team A scored a "point", does Team B win, or we go to the "golden score"? I think B wins as they "more than matched." A practise in place in some American cities is after extra time the game restarts immediately and the team who goes two SCORES ahead wins. Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 762 - 19/09/2024 17:28:07 2570828 Link
Replying To omahant: "Sorry, just a mix up there on my part.... "What do you think of...." was just a cut/paste from CeachtPeile above (instead of me hitting 'reply'. So, my 2nd paragraph was just a question - as FRC proposed, does the higher overtime scoring team win the game? To your point, I see an initial goal as being particularly problematic - the scoring team would then board up. Maybe a work around is an initial "golden goal" wins it - the 2nd play is only after a point or 2-pointer. Your cynical foul point would just lead to the opposition getting closer to the score they need." I wasn't attacking your particular suggestion I think the entire concept is rubbish. Ice hockey have best method to end a drawn game Just copy that tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 19/09/2024 20:53:37 2570851 Link
This is not a new concept in the GAA… I remember it used years ago .. It's similar to the "Golden Goal" rule FIFA brought in but it lasted on a couple of years… It is not a rule I like…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 20/09/2024 06:23:51 2570881 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "This is not a new concept in the GAA… I remember it used years ago .. It's similar to the "Golden Goal" rule FIFA brought in but it lasted on a couple of years… It is not a rule I like…!" It's a bit similar Foreverblue but the Golden Goal was extra time with next score the winner. I liked it because there's more skill involved in a golden goal than penalties and tired teams can make mistakes. Overtime showdown gives the team that's conceded a chance to equalise. If there's a strong wind in extra time it could be an advantage to the team with wind at their back, and it mightn't! With the 2 point arc, 4 point goal and the 'Overtime showdown' they're not taking too much influence from US sports entertaining a television audience. I'd prefer to see more skills and more hitting, referees letting games flow. 2025 should be an interesting season. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 20/09/2024 09:39:31 2570901 Link
Replying To Gaa Fan: "A practise in place in some American cities is after extra time the game restarts immediately and the team who goes two SCORES ahead wins." I like that actually - although I could see the period being prolonged from time to time. So, a "golden goal" is always an instant winner? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2895 - 20/09/2024 15:28:45 2571010 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "This is not a new concept in the GAA… I remember it used years ago .. It's similar to the "Golden Goal" rule FIFA brought in but it lasted on a couple of years… It is not a rule I like…!" I like the "golden goal' - soccer also watered it down to a "silver goal' for a while (following a goal, plays continued to the end of that 15 mins period, as opposed to all 30 mins) - I prefer the drama of 'golden' sudden death. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2895 - 20/09/2024 15:36:11 2571014 Link
Just re introduce replays and stop all this nonsense of games having to be finished at the first time of asking… Extra time in the replay and then whatever other method of separating teams would be far more effective and acceptable… This rushed through season is really turning people of county football big time… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 21/09/2024 07:59:55 2571085 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Just re introduce replays and stop all this nonsense of games having to be finished at the first time of asking… Extra time in the replay and then whatever other method of separating teams would be far more effective and acceptable… This rushed through season is really turning people of county football big time…" No. In majority of major sports they don't have replays for good reason and it's better for everyone. Allows a proper season structure not holding up needlessly because of a replay. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 21/09/2024 09:17:36 2571100 Link