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John Connolly's Famous All Ireland Speech Has Been Overtaken By Jarlet Burns

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Replying To sean og:  "What a bunch of miserablist's on here , good god, think that's me done with this place."
Some people just can't handle the truth or other's opinions….. sad

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2811 - 30/07/2024 16:53:28    2563078

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Replying To muckla:  "jarlath Burns and Gaels like him around the north had trouble even getting to a match and training. same for the supporters so Yes I am saying it means more to those teams when they are successful for the people who put the hard work in despite all the obstacles."
That is so wrong.How do you know what the Galway lads went through to get to that AllIreland?You have no idea so those lads wanted to win that game as much as Armagh and it would mean as much to their families as it does to the Armagh lads.You do realise the Kelly brothers lost their Dad when they were incredibly young.Conor Flaherty lost his Dad very recently and sadly.We all have back stories so don't assume that you know everything

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 30/07/2024 18:58:26    2563115

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Replying To Viking66:  "Sounds like you want the job? Maybe put yourself forward when Burns time is up?"
If that's your only comeback I must be right.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 30/07/2024 19:07:25    2563119

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Some very sore men on here. We're still celebrating with our fantastic president - great times!

sam2024 (Armagh) - Posts: 31 - 30/07/2024 20:52:24    2563137

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Before the All Ireland final Jarlath Burns had seen 3 or 4 Armagh teams losing different finals and he made the speech all about the winning teams. Be fair to the man he praises the winners and on Sunday it was Armagh.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2133 - 30/07/2024 21:39:43    2563150

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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "If that's your only comeback I must be right."
I know I wouldn't have the time to do his job. I probably wouldn't be diplomatic enough to do it either. You could say I wouldn't be able to do it, even if I wanted to. So, like I said, you should put yourself up for it next time around if you think its such a great handy number.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13407 - 31/07/2024 08:02:45    2563173

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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "That is so wrong.How do you know what the Galway lads went through to get to that AllIreland?You have no idea so those lads wanted to win that game as much as Armagh and it would mean as much to their families as it does to the Armagh lads.You do realise the Kelly brothers lost their Dad when they were incredibly young.Conor Flaherty lost his Dad very recently and sadly.We all have back stories so don't assume that you know everything"
I see where you're coming from regarding players from every county having their own backgrounds, often involving bereavements and other emotional obstacles to cope with.
However it would be totally wrong and remiss not to acknowledge the unique tragic and discriminatory obstacles put in the way of the nationalist community in the six counties and often this sectarian aggression from the ruc and british army was directed at GAA activities. This had the effect (especially in places like South Armagh) of bringing gaelic games to the very core in an even deeper way.
Of course we all have bereavements etc and like you say when youngsters lose a parent it is so hard.
But when your pitch is commandeered by state forces as happened Crossmaglen and players are stopped in a targeted way going to matches and training and a young player Aidan McAnespie is shot dead on his way to training, yes I believe this does give GAA a greater gravitas to the communities involved.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 782 - 31/07/2024 11:33:29    2563218

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Replying To sligo joe:  "I see where you're coming from regarding players from every county having their own backgrounds, often involving bereavements and other emotional obstacles to cope with.
However it would be totally wrong and remiss not to acknowledge the unique tragic and discriminatory obstacles put in the way of the nationalist community in the six counties and often this sectarian aggression from the ruc and british army was directed at GAA activities. This had the effect (especially in places like South Armagh) of bringing gaelic games to the very core in an even deeper way.
Of course we all have bereavements etc and like you say when youngsters lose a parent it is so hard.
But when your pitch is commandeered by state forces as happened Crossmaglen and players are stopped in a targeted way going to matches and training and a young player Aidan McAnespie is shot dead on his way to training, yes I believe this does give GAA a greater gravitas to the communities involved."
I don't accept that the President of The GAA all of Ireland should be more emotional.He should be neutral.What if a president from south had done what he had done if Galway or any other southern team had won on Sunday.There would be uproar and rightly so.It is about giving respect to the losing team on the pitch.You are belittling the trials of one set of players against another and that should not come into it at all with regards to the president.If the Armagh captain had made that speech then it would be perfectly acceptable.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 31/07/2024 12:15:47    2563231

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Replying To Viking66:  "I know I wouldn't have the time to do his job. I probably wouldn't be diplomatic enough to do it either. You could say I wouldn't be able to do it, even if I wanted to. So, like I said, you should put yourself up for it next time around if you think its such a great handy number."
He gives up his day job so his job is the President of the GAA.Thats what he does.He gets paid what he would have gotten paid in the job he has given up for few years so it's not exactly sacrificing anything really financially.So yeah it not a walk in the park but it's not that bad either.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 31/07/2024 12:18:30    2563232

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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "No one said it was a slight.It was totally unprofessional.He should have enough self awareness as the president of tha gaa that there was a losing team on the pitch as well.It was disappointing that he didn't have more respect."
So it was unprofessional to praise all the work ALLGAA members do around the country? He was very respectful giving a platform to all those who do so much behind the scenes but rarely get mentioned. Truely baffling. You need to stop the navel gazing paranoid mopery.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 31/07/2024 12:42:25    2563235

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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "I don't accept that the President of The GAA all of Ireland should be more emotional.He should be neutral.What if a president from south had done what he had done if Galway or any other southern team had won on Sunday.There would be uproar and rightly so.It is about giving respect to the losing team on the pitch.You are belittling the trials of one set of players against another and that should not come into it at all with regards to the president.If the Armagh captain had made that speech then it would be perfectly acceptable."
Look I made no comment whatsoever on Jarlath Burns' speech. All I'm saying is that communities in the six counties have had to perseverere through various state led persecutions (including the murder of a young player on his way to training by an agent of the state) .in order to play gaelic games as their sport.
To acknowledge that this persecution has resulted in a deep spiritual embracement of their GAA identity in those communities in no way trivialises the efforts, trials etc. of others.
When the identity of a community is persecuted/threatened, that community will cling even tighter to whatever identifies it, e.g the GAA. So the bond between those communities in the six counties and their gaa clubs is different and that is not to belittle our own identification with the GAA or our clubs in the 26, we just didn't go through the same community experience that they did.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 782 - 31/07/2024 13:37:59    2563244

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "So it was unprofessional to praise all the work ALLGAA members do around the country? He was very respectful giving a platform to all those who do so much behind the scenes but rarely get mentioned. Truely baffling. You need to stop the navel gazing paranoid mopery."
You don't know me and I am not paranoid either.I hope that if and when Roscommon are in an All Ireland and if they lose that the president has more respect for your team standing on the pitch.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 31/07/2024 13:56:16    2563252

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Maybe Galway should be looking at some of the silly wides/balls dropped short/turnovers they had in the last 10 mins that ultimately cost them instead of focusing on the GAA President."
This comes from a county whose manager realised very early that they never had much creative talent (Outside Mike Murphy ) so the way to win was to put everyone behind the ball and stop teams playing rather than trying to win

LottoPlus (Kilkenny) - Posts: 79 - 31/07/2024 14:36:59    2563256

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Look I made no comment whatsoever on Jarlath Burns' speech. All I'm saying is that communities in the six counties have had to perseverere through various state led persecutions (including the murder of a young player on his way to training by an agent of the state) .in order to play gaelic games as their sport.
To acknowledge that this persecution has resulted in a deep spiritual embracement of their GAA identity in those communities in no way trivialises the efforts, trials etc. of others.
When the identity of a community is persecuted/threatened, that community will cling even tighter to whatever identifies it, e.g the GAA. So the bond between those communities in the six counties and their gaa clubs is different and that is not to belittle our own identification with the GAA or our clubs in the 26, we just didn't go through the same community experience that they did."
Spot on Joe

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13407 - 31/07/2024 16:25:33    2563271

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I'm getting the impression that some just don't like Jarlath because of where he is from. They try and dress it up as something else but they don't like Nordies full stop.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9780 - 31/07/2024 16:34:37    2563274

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I'm getting the impression that some just don't like Jarlath because of where he is from. They try and dress it up as something else but they don't like Nordies full stop."
The bag of spuds on the shoulder man!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1832 - 31/07/2024 16:49:06    2563278

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I'm getting the impression that some just don't like Jarlath because of where he is from. They try and dress it up as something else but they don't like Nordies full stop."
Don't go playing the victim on us now!

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 70 - 31/07/2024 17:06:44    2563280

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I'm getting the impression that some just don't like Jarlath because of where he is from. They try and dress it up as something else but they don't like Nordies full stop."
Not from me anyway

But since when do GAA presidents do these big long winded styled speech

Is this going to be a new thing?

There's a lot of political play here, I'd be very surprised if he's not taking his chance in front of a huge audience to set up a future political career for himself, he got all the diddly dee stuff covered nicely

Just my opinion.. good on him, but let's not dress up what could be a bit of savvy commentary as something that its not..

Presidents of associations generally say a few words and hand over the trophy

Burns went on a bit...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20681 - 31/07/2024 18:11:33    2563288

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Nah, it's gotta be Cluxton :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8667 - 31/07/2024 19:12:21    2563297

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I'm getting the impression that some just don't like Jarlath because of where he is from. They try and dress it up as something else but they don't like Nordies full stop."
When you've lads like you representing "nordies" what do you expect?

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 249 - 31/07/2024 20:23:26    2563301

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