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VAR In Hurling

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In light of the recent controversies involving referees, should VAR be introduced to at least level the playing field. Hurling is the fastest field sport in the world, and seeing as Hawkeye is widely used, why not VAR. James Owens, Johnny Murphy, and Walsh of Kilkenny have come under fire, what with dishing out red cards, disallowed goals, hand passes..,list is endless. Club final involving O'Loughlin Gaels had a disputed goal /non goal which was never rectified. Isn't it time to embrace technology and move with the times, 3 or 4 disputed decisions is all that would be needed, game would not be slowed down, and at least we'd have competent officiating!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 373 - 25/07/2024 08:06:02    2561393

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "In light of the recent controversies involving referees, should VAR be introduced to at least level the playing field. Hurling is the fastest field sport in the world, and seeing as Hawkeye is widely used, why not VAR. James Owens, Johnny Murphy, and Walsh of Kilkenny have come under fire, what with dishing out red cards, disallowed goals, hand passes..,list is endless. Club final involving O'Loughlin Gaels had a disputed goal /non goal which was never rectified. Isn't it time to embrace technology and move with the times, 3 or 4 disputed decisions is all that would be needed, game would not be slowed down, and at least we'd have competent officiating!"
Would rather a challenge system tbh. 1 per half for each manager. There were numerous incidents in the final that would've merited a look on VAR, it would've killed the game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13880 - 25/07/2024 11:03:40    2561436

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "In light of the recent controversies involving referees, should VAR be introduced to at least level the playing field. Hurling is the fastest field sport in the world, and seeing as Hawkeye is widely used, why not VAR. James Owens, Johnny Murphy, and Walsh of Kilkenny have come under fire, what with dishing out red cards, disallowed goals, hand passes..,list is endless. Club final involving O'Loughlin Gaels had a disputed goal /non goal which was never rectified. Isn't it time to embrace technology and move with the times, 3 or 4 disputed decisions is all that would be needed, game would not be slowed down, and at least we'd have competent officiating!"
Hawkeye is not widely used. It's only in two venues. A contentious "point" in Croke Park or Thurles can be checked, but not anywhere else. So even Hawkeye hasn't "levelled the playing field" in that regard.

What makes you think it would be feasible to widely install and use VAR?

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 25/07/2024 11:26:05    2561447

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Replying To Viking66:  "Would rather a challenge system tbh. 1 per half for each manager. There were numerous incidents in the final that would've merited a look on VAR, it would've killed the game."
Spot on. Too man contentious issues to have VAR.

A challenge system would work well.

I would allow the video ref to directly intervene in a case of serious foul play i.e. potential red card offense, like striking off the ball etc. but certainly not in the case of technical offences or re reffing every decision.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1890 - 25/07/2024 12:05:31    2561458

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "In light of the recent controversies involving referees, should VAR be introduced to at least level the playing field. Hurling is the fastest field sport in the world, and seeing as Hawkeye is widely used, why not VAR. James Owens, Johnny Murphy, and Walsh of Kilkenny have come under fire, what with dishing out red cards, disallowed goals, hand passes..,list is endless. Club final involving O'Loughlin Gaels had a disputed goal /non goal which was never rectified. Isn't it time to embrace technology and move with the times, 3 or 4 disputed decisions is all that would be needed, game would not be slowed down, and at least we'd have competent officiating!"
The cost of installing, running and maintaining the VAR system would be prohibitive for GAA clubs and counties.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2654 - 25/07/2024 13:30:59    2561491

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Given the amount of grey areas in hurling, I think VAR (even if financially viable) would provide very little of a solution.
Take the David McInerney foul on Robbie O'Flynn. I've heard various pundits give very different opinions on what the correct punishment should have been. This is after they've seen it replayed multiple times.
We'd have the negative of the game being stopped multiple times, but still have people complaining that the decisions were incorrect.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 25/07/2024 14:15:47    2561509

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I think the knocks on VAR are just wrong. If used properly would take a lot of pressure off refs. You do not need to review every play but a bit of common sense here. All red cards should be reviewed before issuing. Penalty calls and black cards. Scores or wides in the last minute or two of play. A missed call cost Limerick. A missed call Sunday that would have resulted in a replay. Not that Clare were deserving winners but I guarantee you the ref would want to have got that right and if seen it he would have called it.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2866 - 25/07/2024 20:59:57    2561594

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I think the knocks on VAR are just wrong. If used properly would take a lot of pressure off refs. You do not need to review every play but a bit of common sense here. All red cards should be reviewed before issuing. Penalty calls and black cards. Scores or wides in the last minute or two of play. A missed call cost Limerick. A missed call Sunday that would have resulted in a replay. Not that Clare were deserving winners but I guarantee you the ref would want to have got that right and if seen it he would have called it.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2866 - 25/07/2024 21:07:11    2561596

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Given the amount of grey areas in hurling, I think VAR (even if financially viable) would provide very little of a solution.
Take the David McInerney foul on Robbie O'Flynn. I've heard various pundits give very different opinions on what the correct punishment should have been. This is after they've seen it replayed multiple times.
We'd have the negative of the game being stopped multiple times, but still have people complaining that the decisions were incorrect."
Sorry disagree as pundits half the time don't know the rules and are biased. If the discussion is judged properly by qualified people then the pundits can go suck air. You are right about the cost but worth it. Anyone who knows anything about this knows that t.v. cameras are not good enough because of the angles they are capturing picture. Proper technical imaging and cameras that the t.v. station don't have and the results should not be shared with them either can shut the pundits up. It is time to move into this century with the fastest sport in the world. There was a time when only x-ray was available. There would be a lot of dead people only for scans and MRI. Sometimes I think people in our sport don't want the right decisions or a wrong one corrected.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2866 - 26/07/2024 01:00:50    2561634

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