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Replying To DundalkGael:  "A lad who goes to Dundalk games with me, said on the way out of the game Friday night oh I'm looking forward to a day on the beer in Dublin for the final Sunday.

My mate hasn't been to a Louth game in years never mind a Hurling game."
And your point is? Is your mate not allowed to attend? What do you want? An embargo on him going?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 21/07/2024 10:00:57    2560261

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Replying To eoinog:  "So when your club gets its allocation you are saying that you have a free draw for its members. Great, then everyone is happy in your club. Other clubs however choose to do things differently and that's the decision for their club exec. The allocation from Croke Park to club's is fine, it's what clubs do with their tickets that causes the problem. That's why tickets fall into the hands of the wrong people."
Exactly that. We don't have any big backings. It's not only a small parish but it would be a relatively poor one too. Amazing what people can achieve when they come together.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13880 - 21/07/2024 10:25:44    2560271

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Demand will always exceed supply for finals and there will always be people disappointed, and they will all no doubt feel that they are more deserving of a ticket than others.

I'm not sure where you are getting the 20% figure but I can't disprove it either. I still think virtually every fan that attends most games will get a ticket somehow."
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/13422570/croke-park-all-ireland-final-tickets-jason-byrne/amp/

I don't know about the 20% I am guessing but I think there are a fair few genuine fans that miss out every year. I would stop allocating tickets through clubs as a lot of club members take tickets who don't care about county matches they only go to club games. The clubs then raffle them off for money. It's makes the GAA seem rotten to its core the way tickets are distributed and how clubs use tickets to get money for their own benefit instead of giving the tickets back so they can go to genuine supporters.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1673 - 21/07/2024 11:23:32    2560277

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "Yeah most genuine fans would get tickets but I would say about 20% of genuine fans must miss out because county allocations are only around 57,000-58,000 so 28,000-29, 000 tickets each and demand in most counties for most counties would far exceed that number. Like for both the football and hurling finals this year they are having fan zones etc because so many people can't get tickets."
What exactly is a "genuine fan"? Just because someone doesn't go to every game, plenty of reasons why they might not be able to, does that make them any less of a fan?

A lot of people who trow around lines like that are the likes of Buff Egan etc who think they have a right to get tickets for every game that's played.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 21/07/2024 11:25:00    2560278

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Replying To oneoff:  "What exactly is a "genuine fan"? Just because someone doesn't go to every game, plenty of reasons why they might not be able to, does that make them any less of a fan?

A lot of people who trow around lines like that are the likes of Buff Egan etc who think they have a right to get tickets for every game that's played."
Someone who makes an effort to attend most games. Yeah there are people who live in England or America that would be big GAA fans who obviously can't go to matches because of the distance but there are a lot of people who won't even travel to home games who live close to their home ground then they get an All Ireland ticket it's a crazy system.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1673 - 21/07/2024 11:36:17    2560280

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "https://www.thesun.ie/sport/13422570/croke-park-all-ireland-final-tickets-jason-byrne/amp/

I don't know about the 20% I am guessing but I think there are a fair few genuine fans that miss out every year. I would stop allocating tickets through clubs as a lot of club members take tickets who don't care about county matches they only go to club games. The clubs then raffle them off for money. It's makes the GAA seem rotten to its core the way tickets are distributed and how clubs use tickets to get money for their own benefit instead of giving the tickets back so they can go to genuine supporters."
Please tell us how you would distribute them ?

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1958 - 21/07/2024 11:41:50    2560281

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Replying To eoinog:  "Please tell us how you would distribute them ?"
37,500 each to competing counties with those who have attended the most county games given priority. These tickets should be given to the county boards to sell not the clubs who have sought to profit from All Ireland tickets. 5,000 tickets for neutral fans that go on general sale on Ticketmaster. The remaining tickets to volunteers etc.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1673 - 21/07/2024 11:53:27    2560282

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "https://www.thesun.ie/sport/13422570/croke-park-all-ireland-final-tickets-jason-byrne/amp/

I don't know about the 20% I am guessing but I think there are a fair few genuine fans that miss out every year. I would stop allocating tickets through clubs as a lot of club members take tickets who don't care about county matches they only go to club games. The clubs then raffle them off for money. It's makes the GAA seem rotten to its core the way tickets are distributed and how clubs use tickets to get money for their own benefit instead of giving the tickets back so they can go to genuine supporters."
Club matches are the backbone of the association

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 21/07/2024 12:24:22    2560283

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "37,500 each to competing counties with those who have attended the most county games given priority. These tickets should be given to the county boards to sell not the clubs who have sought to profit from All Ireland tickets. 5,000 tickets for neutral fans that go on general sale on Ticketmaster. The remaining tickets to volunteers etc."
Club volunteers then get ????

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 21/07/2024 12:25:21    2560285

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Club matches are the backbone of the association"
Yeah that's true but clubs are always trying to profit by raffling tickets etc so they should no longer be involved in distributing tickets.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1673 - 21/07/2024 12:48:44    2560288

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Club volunteers then get ????"
Volunteers have always received tickets for matches it's fair enough that a small number of tickets go to volunteers after genuine supporters have got tickets etc depending on demand. Like it would be better if the GAA didn't give tickets to sponsors etc but they will always give tickets to corporate people because the main objective of the GAA is to make money. The principles of the GAA are not the same as when the organisation is founded.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1673 - 21/07/2024 12:55:15    2560291

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And I see ex GAA Presidents are allocated 700 tickets…. What a waste

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 21/07/2024 13:05:25    2560293

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "Volunteers have always received tickets for matches it's fair enough that a small number of tickets go to volunteers after genuine supporters have got tickets etc depending on demand. Like it would be better if the GAA didn't give tickets to sponsors etc but they will always give tickets to corporate people because the main objective of the GAA is to make money. The principles of the GAA are not the same as when the organisation is founded."
Bitter much

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 21/07/2024 13:35:30    2560297

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "And I see ex GAA Presidents are allocated 700 tickets…. What a waste"
Again not true but don't let truth get in the way of your nonsense. Those 700 tickets are for Ard Comhairle, includes ex Presidents, current county chairmen, secretaries, treasurers, administrators, guests, GPA,

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 21/07/2024 13:37:16    2560298

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Again not true but don't let truth get in the way of your nonsense. Those 700 tickets are for Ard Comhairle, includes ex Presidents, current county chairmen, secretaries, treasurers, administrators, guests, GPA,"
Why not put it down as such and not under the heading of ex presidents…? The only nonsense is whoever listed it as such…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 21/07/2024 13:44:09    2560304

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "37,500 each to competing counties with those who have attended the most county games given priority. These tickets should be given to the county boards to sell not the clubs who have sought to profit from All Ireland tickets. 5,000 tickets for neutral fans that go on general sale on Ticketmaster. The remaining tickets to volunteers etc."
So ticket touts buy the 5 thousand tickets on Ticketmaster and flout them at inflated prices and you are questioning clubs who make a profit?. Can't see your idea working

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1958 - 21/07/2024 13:58:33    2560307

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "Volunteers have always received tickets for matches it's fair enough that a small number of tickets go to volunteers after genuine supporters have got tickets etc depending on demand. Like it would be better if the GAA didn't give tickets to sponsors etc but they will always give tickets to corporate people because the main objective of the GAA is to make money. The principles of the GAA are not the same as when the organisation is founded."
How exactly do you think the GAA would work without money?

Every club has a sponsor. Do you have an issue with that? As they're getting money for it.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 21/07/2024 14:13:41    2560309

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "Someone who makes an effort to attend most games. Yeah there are people who live in England or America that would be big GAA fans who obviously can't go to matches because of the distance but there are a lot of people who won't even travel to home games who live close to their home ground then they get an All Ireland ticket it's a crazy system."
Imo the people who cry about tickets going to the "wrong people" themselves will only be seen at "big games".

I used Buff Egan as an example. If he doesn't have a ticket for today, no idea if he does or not, he'll be complaining about others getting them. The 2 Johnnies are his normal target. Whatever you think about them but they play, sponsor and are part of their club committee. Are they not entitled to tickets even though it's likely they won't be able to make a lot of games?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 21/07/2024 14:21:05    2560311

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Replying To oneoff:  "What exactly is a "genuine fan"? Just because someone doesn't go to every game, plenty of reasons why they might not be able to, does that make them any less of a fan?

A lot of people who trow around lines like that are the likes of Buff Egan etc who think they have a right to get tickets for every game that's played."
Agree with you, the attendences across the season have been down, maybe the live product os not what ot was. But the people who keep the games alive are the ones who should be rewarded. But thats not how the 'free' market works.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4941 - 21/07/2024 14:57:52    2560313

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Looking at the TV screens it seems there is an overwhelmingly a sea of red.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4941 - 21/07/2024 15:07:43    2560316

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