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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Ah ffs please stop backing us!"
Kieran McGeeney has never beaten a top 3 team in his time as IC manager ranging back to 2008.

LimerickForLiam24 (Limerick) - Posts: 129 - 07/07/2024 23:00:23    2557568

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Forgot to post a well done to the Banner men on Sat.
Super win.

Lost 3 Munster Hurling Finals in a row, and the last 2 AI Hurling Semi Finals to Kilkenny, but were not to be beaten by the Cats in this year semi final.

0-24 to 2-16 win in front of a disappointing crowd of only 39,500

Clare kept the Cats scoreless for the last 17mins.
It was a super comeback win for Clare who were 5pts down at HT, and who had trailed Kilkenny right up to the 64min mark. The Clare goalie made some crucial saves.

It was only the Clare men's 2nd ever Championship win over Kilkenny and what a time to do it.

Kilkenny will feel they left it behind - TJ will some rare misses, and the Cats with only a 55% success rate from placed balls.
Cats only converted 18 out of 38 scoring chances, compared to Clare's 24 out of 38. And the Clare turnovers were crucial also.

Well done to both teams on a super game.

So it is Clare v Cork in the Final now.... anyone's guess who will lift Liam in 2 weeks.
But refreshing that it will be someone new I guess.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3943 - 08/07/2024 00:21:44    2557579

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Replying To katser:  "Hopefully Galway get Dublin in the Camogie Semi Final......handy one for us!"
Maybe Henry should have sent them out against our lads.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2974 - 08/07/2024 07:19:39    2557594

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A word on hurling a referees.Hurling is a. brilliant game and we ve had some cracking games this year but alot of refs are ignoring the rules.Refs are listening to too many pundits.Refs get great praise when they ignore the whistle and let the game flow.Because of this its very hard to get a free in hurling.Yesterday in the first 5 minutes it was frantic with players pilling jerseys dragging eachother pushing and no free given.A foul is a foul and frees should be given for a foul even if it slows down game.I also have long highlighted the "handpassing".Now tbf the ref yesterday pulled a few but as Michael Duignan said the majority of passes in hurling now are throws.The game is brilliant and excoting but either change the rules or adhere to them.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3840 - 08/07/2024 11:16:20    2557650

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "A word on hurling a referees.Hurling is a. brilliant game and we ve had some cracking games this year but alot of refs are ignoring the rules.Refs are listening to too many pundits.Refs get great praise when they ignore the whistle and let the game flow.Because of this its very hard to get a free in hurling.Yesterday in the first 5 minutes it was frantic with players pilling jerseys dragging eachother pushing and no free given.A foul is a foul and frees should be given for a foul even if it slows down game.I also have long highlighted the "handpassing".Now tbf the ref yesterday pulled a few but as Michael Duignan said the majority of passes in hurling now are throws.The game is brilliant and excoting but either change the rules or adhere to them."
Refereeing is an impossible task these days but I thought both refs had decent games. You can always point to a few issues though and no ref will get it 100% right. I was perplexed at why Gordon did not play advantage to us when SOD had the ball with only 1 man (who was on a yellow) to beat.

The game yesterday was littered with throws and is was crazy to think that Cork were punished more from it when clearly Limerick were at it more than Cork. Cork also got a yellow card after what looked to me like a dive by Diarmuid Byrnes late in the second half.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2679 - 08/07/2024 12:00:46    2557665

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Maybe Henry should have sent them out against our lads."
Knowing your lads get the jitters against the stripey men, MD should have sent out the camogie team in the Leinster final! Big mistake!

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 70 - 08/07/2024 12:17:34    2557674

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "Knowing your lads get the jitters against the stripey men, MD should have sent out the camogie team in the Leinster final! Big mistake!"
A stunning riposte! Did you think of it all by your own self?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2974 - 08/07/2024 13:44:50    2557695

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Refereeing is an impossible task these days but I thought both refs had decent games. You can always point to a few issues though and no ref will get it 100% right. I was perplexed at why Gordon did not play advantage to us when SOD had the ball with only 1 man (who was on a yellow) to beat.

The game yesterday was littered with throws and is was crazy to think that Cork were punished more from it when clearly Limerick were at it more than Cork. Cork also got a yellow card after what looked to me like a dive by Diarmuid Byrnes late in the second half."
I recall three contentious balls called as throws over the weekend that on replay all looked to be hand passes - the Kilkenny one in the first half (given as a free to Clare and a point), the Cork disallowed goal (potentially a big swing), and Gillanes one in the first half.
When they slowed it down there seemed to be a striking action in all three while in real time they looked like throws
Clearly, players are doing it so fast that its impossible for refs to tell, and at least in some cases balls that look like they are being thrown are actually not.
Its a great skill and important to keep the game moving. If players cant get ball away play slows down, more rucks and more pulling and dragging, more frees.
If they try to change its important they look at slow mo replays and talk to the players to get a handle on what is really happening before they change the rules

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 08/07/2024 15:22:38    2557721

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "A stunning riposte! Did you think of it all by your own self?"
Riposte! The Irishman with a biteen of French to give the impression of intelligence and some learning! Your patronising question, however, lacks subtlety and French flair.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 70 - 08/07/2024 15:36:33    2557725

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "Have you been watching the Tour De France realdub. It only one week in and already being considered the greatest ever! It non stop attacking! Today's stage was utter carnage on the gravel! It's totally absorbing, and 2 more weeks to go, hallelujah!"
My **** is sore just looking at them :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8667 - 08/07/2024 15:42:32    2557729

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Replying To LimerickForLiam24:  "Kerry will hammer ye in the football."
Brilliant.

Enjoy the summer.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1631 - 08/07/2024 15:49:58    2557731

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Replying To Yadse:  "I recall three contentious balls called as throws over the weekend that on replay all looked to be hand passes - the Kilkenny one in the first half (given as a free to Clare and a point), the Cork disallowed goal (potentially a big swing), and Gillanes one in the first half.
When they slowed it down there seemed to be a striking action in all three while in real time they looked like throws
Clearly, players are doing it so fast that its impossible for refs to tell, and at least in some cases balls that look like they are being thrown are actually not.
Its a great skill and important to keep the game moving. If players cant get ball away play slows down, more rucks and more pulling and dragging, more frees.
If they try to change its important they look at slow mo replays and talk to the players to get a handle on what is really happening before they change the rules"
I think in the case of a goal being scored as a result of a questionable hand pass VAR should be used. It would only take a few minutes, would give the players a well needed breather and would also take some of the pressure off the referee.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 70 - 08/07/2024 15:54:37    2557735

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "No mention of the victors, Cork?"
You haven't congratulated Clare yourself either. So how about you lead by example....

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 50 - 08/07/2024 16:09:15    2557743

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One of the best hurling games I have ever seen. The standard of hurling and some of the scores from both sides was ridiculous. Thought the referee did well overall bar the dodgy calls for the handpasses. Limerick not finished yet. They will be back as good as ever again next year. Aaron Gillane is the best player in the country.

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 08/07/2024 16:12:24    2557745

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "I think in the case of a goal being scored as a result of a questionable hand pass VAR should be used. It would only take a few minutes, would give the players a well needed breather and would also take some of the pressure off the referee."
John Meyler was on a podcast today denouncing VAR, saying it interrupts flow of game, and has destroyed rugby.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 362 - 08/07/2024 16:33:24    2557761

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "I think in the case of a goal being scored as a result of a questionable hand pass VAR should be used. It would only take a few minutes, would give the players a well needed breather and would also take some of the pressure off the referee."
It is very hard for the refs in a spit second to know if it is legit. These commentators and analysts need to shut up. Stating that lots of them are missed all the time (probably are) with the benefit of replays. So are they saying the ref should not call a hand pass that he sees are illegal because he did not call a one he did not see ? Why are things so difficult to make easier ? An open hand, remember it is called a palmed ball. Separation between the ball and hand with the elbow visually moving back. Call them all until all these criteria is met an is obvious. Let the players make sure they are not going to be called by doing it right. I agree use VAR or else ban all replay rights to t.v. Its one or the other because referring by t.v. sets the ref up for failure the next day as he is human when viewing this later. Do coaches and managers set up their players to fail ?

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2854 - 08/07/2024 17:19:27    2557783

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Refereeing is an impossible task these days but I thought both refs had decent games. You can always point to a few issues though and no ref will get it 100% right. I was perplexed at why Gordon did not play advantage to us when SOD had the ball with only 1 man (who was on a yellow) to beat.

The game yesterday was littered with throws and is was crazy to think that Cork were punished more from it when clearly Limerick were at it more than Cork. Cork also got a yellow card after what looked to me like a dive by Diarmuid Byrnes late in the second half."
I recall three contentious balls called as throws over the weekend that on replay all looked to be hand passes - the Kilkenny one in the first half (given as a free to Clare and a point), the Cork disallowed goal (potentially a big swing), and Gillanes one in the first half.
When they slowed it down there seemed to be a striking action in all three while in real time they looked like throws
Clearly, players are doing it so fast that its impossible for refs to tell, and at least in some cases balls that look like they are being thrown are actually not.
Its a great skill and important to keep the game moving. If players cant get ball away play slows down, more rucks and more pulling and dragging, more frees.
If they try to change its important they look at slow mo replays and talk to the players to get a handle on what is really happening before they change the rules

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 08/07/2024 17:22:22    2557786

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Replying To Canuck:  "I picked Limerick today like many others. Did not think Cork had 70+ minutes in them. They proved me wrong. Played out of their skins as well as showing some fabulous skills. Limerick are far from done and I predict more All-Ireland in them. Especially when those subs are more in touch with the team game and not personal glory. I am plugging for Clare now. It will be a different game than to day. Just wondering was today Cork's All-Ireland. They may prove me wrong for the second time. Anyway tired of always being right LOL."
First, I would like to sincerely congratulate Cork on a magnificent performance on Sunday when they overcame the current all Ireland champions by 00-02, Limerick will be back next year for sure so too will John Kiley he is a young man with too much to offer to walk away from it at this stage, let it be said he is a gifted man who brought hurling to a new level, the ease of his post-match interview with time for a couple of natural smiles and a grin on his face said a lot.

Clare overcame luckless Kilkenny by the same margin 00-02 however Clare were worthy winners, I have a feeling like Limerick Kilkenny will be back next year too. A few pages back I gave my views on both games along with who will be the ultimate winner so I'm not going to change my views on that forecast. Commiserations to a gallant and sporting Limerick squad.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 285 - 08/07/2024 19:04:43    2557812

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Refereeing is an impossible task these days but I thought both refs had decent games. You can always point to a few issues though and no ref will get it 100% right. I was perplexed at why Gordon did not play advantage to us when SOD had the ball with only 1 man (who was on a yellow) to beat.

The game yesterday was littered with throws and is was crazy to think that Cork were punished more from it when clearly Limerick were at it more than Cork. Cork also got a yellow card after what looked to me like a dive by Diarmuid Byrnes late in the second half."
LRH I had a clear view of Eoin Cody's' illegal handpass, it looked a throw all day, however it was perfect on playback so How you be so sure Limerick were throwing the ball.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4458 - 09/07/2024 21:44:28    2558118

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "LRH I had a clear view of Eoin Cody's' illegal handpass, it looked a throw all day, however it was perfect on playback so How you be so sure Limerick were throwing the ball."
Maybe we should bring back rule where you can drop Hurley to hand pass

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 156 - 09/07/2024 22:27:09    2558125

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