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Referees have to watch out for consecutive hops. If referees were on board with limiting to 2 consecutive hand passes, is that workable? If a players solos, it could reset the sequence because of the foot action. I hand pass to you and you hand pass to me, all good. I cannot hand pass again without at least a solo. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8434 - 11/12/2024 21:24:44 2583204 Link 0 |
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Certainly both suggestions could work - I guess my main point is to keep technical infringements simple and clearly defined. The handpass limit was trialed a few years back and certainly once we start counting them up it it becomes difficult to track with everything else going on in a game - again maybe it was this feedback that stopped the FRC from looking at it again? brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 372 - 12/12/2024 09:25:14 2583245 Link 0 |
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The corner flag is inside the 20m line."]Sharp observation! What's your point?
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 311 - 03/01/2025 16:52:49 2584456 Link 0 |
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Yes, a handpass limit was trialled a few years ago in pre-League games and the funny thing is Jim Gavin was in favour of continuing the trial in the League. The simplest limit would be 'if you receive a handpass you must kick the ball'. This was proposed at some forum or other, but apparently referees objected, leading one wit to declare 'referees can't even count to one!' (We do know that referees are completely lost beyond four!). While the new rules are welcome, the proliferation of the handpass remains the elephant in the room and I'm hoping that a motion to rename the game 'Gaelic Handball' will emerge shortly; I can think of no reason why such a motion should be opposed. Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 311 - 03/01/2025 17:10:03 2584458 Link 0 |
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Make no mistake these new rules brought in in such numbers will be the death knell for Gaelic football… Teams will still set up with a defensive mind..How on earth are all these rules going to be enforced or implemented at junior level club football…? Referees are going to pack in the job now…these new rules coupled with revenue swooping on their match fees will leave to them wondering if it's worth the bother any more… This numpty review committee just came up with rules as if every game was played in Croke Park with neutral linesmen and umpires there to help out the referee…. What about the hundreds of games where the ref is totally on his own with no neutral help…? I can see an awful lot of club games postponed because of the non appearance of a referee…… This will lead to players packing in the game and possibly switching to soccer that has changed to the summer season now at non league level… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3315 - 03/01/2025 18:19:13 2584466 Link 0 |
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Your starting the year in an optimistic mood anyway
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1205 - 04/01/2025 05:56:52 2584508 Link 0 |
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No point in starting with your head buried in the sand is there…?
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3315 - 04/01/2025 10:50:25 2584524 Link 0 |
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I wonder if a ref call of "use it" as in rugby would work in ensuring timely "forward progress" of play? Say, a three-stage rule - Divide the pitch in three at the 45s - i.e. behind own 45, between both 45s and a score or wide/after beyond other 45 Each series of unbroken possession limited to 30 seconds at each "stage" before the ball must be advanced to the next stage. "Unscientific" ref mental clock reset when ball enters new stage (ref gives "use it" call warning at 20 seconds and team must have ball in next stage at 30 seconds (possibly a kick then). Violation is a loss of possession/free in stage in question (at midfield or relevant 20m line). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2997 - 04/01/2025 17:01:14 2584612 Link 0 |
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A golden opportunity was lost to reinvent our national game of gaelic football once and for all that would favor no one county in particular rather it would more than help to level the playing field for all and sundry. Blanket defenses, lateral passing, multiple hand passing, defensive marks, attacking marks etc, etc, etc, was not part of the game 50 ish years ago fact, yet Dublin won multiple provincial Leinster titles and half a dozen Senior All Ireland titles up to 2011. Over the same period of time Kerry dominated Munster winning multiple provincial titles and a dozen plus All Ireland senior titles. The only major noticeable difference since 2011 along with the way the game is played is that Dublin has continued to rack up more successful Leinster titles but more Senior All Ireland titles than Kerry. Ulster seems to be an overall better-balanced province; In 2003, '05, '08, 2021 Tyrone made their presence felt when against heavy odds collected four senior All Ireland titles. Armagh's All Ireland success in 2024 was long overdue, the gaa world awaits to see if it's a one off or one of many.? In my own view all the playing rules attached to the game can be changed at any given time and the only difference that will make is to possibly make the game more attractive and possibly giving us a better reason to go to games, but it will not make it any easier for the so called weaker counties to collect a small bit of silverware any time soon. NB, There has to be a disconnect between the senior championship, the national football league and the Tailteann Cup, along with that the provincial championship's should be discontinued. PS. The four divisions in the NFL should be reduced to three. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3087 - 04/01/2025 22:36:25 2584651 Link 0 |
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has anyone seen any games under the new rules so far? bystanderbill (Wexford) - Posts: 47 - 14/01/2025 10:43:02 2585819 Link 0 |
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0121/1492051-oconnor-rule-on-handing-the-ball-back-is-unnatural/ omahant (USA) - Posts: 2997 - 22/01/2025 16:43:20 2586992 Link 0 |
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Like all reviews they missed the most obvious problem in the game,the hand pass. Why not make it 3 hand passes and you must kick which is enforceable rather than a whole set of new penalties which are quite obviously not enforceable and will make a mockery of the game. Eg does all of the "3 up" stand on the half way line waiting and if so can they control a natural urge to chase the ball which comes close to them?(Can they reach out over the halfway line) Presently if you are in front towards the end of the game you just engage in a game of keep ball to run down the clock which will continue.I like the rugby rule of playing on if the team behind is in possession and trying to score rather than our present system where the team in front engage in numerous fouls to slow down the game,reset and exhaust injury time.Having said that I really enjoyed some superb games last year and the players are better conditioned and more skilful than ever with the scoring averages higher than ever. isfeidirrlinn (Armagh) - Posts: 3 - 22/01/2025 17:04:32 2586996 Link 0 |
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Yet another rule to confuse the already overworked referee…. Heaven help us… the game is totally ruined
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3315 - 22/01/2025 22:32:12 2587047 Link 0 |
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In fairness, something had to be done - I compend the FRC for their 'root & branch' approach to the rules. While it's a lot to take in at first, trimming around the edges would have been insufficient and led to more changes. This is so radical, perhaps we just need a tweak here and there. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2997 - 23/01/2025 00:11:14 2587062 Link 0 |
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The wind will effect games on Sunday and clearly show issues with the new 2 point rule and how wind dirrection will interfer with the balance of the game BarrRst (Westmeath) - Posts: 32 - 23/01/2025 06:21:17 2587073 Link 0 |
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Given the possibility of several wind changes, would 4 quarters be better in balancing things out?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2997 - 24/01/2025 14:23:19 2587327 Link 0 |
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Holy good God when is all this nonsense going to end…???
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3315 - 24/01/2025 16:55:13 2587363 Link 0 |
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They played 4 quarters in trials (I'm not making it up) - after they had water breaks during COVID, they could've turned around.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2997 - 24/01/2025 19:00:20 2587386 Link 0 |