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Replying To legendzxix:  "The tweaks are minor enough in fairness. The next two rounds of the league should provide enough opportunity to adjust.
The big thing for the 11v11 now is that there should be contests. There have been some good contests where defenders cannot pass back to the keeper. The game needs to see similar challenges around the arc, instead of sitting ducks conceding a two pointer.
"Point". "____"? "Goal". Is there any one syllable name that can catch on for a two pointer?"
Seen a few people calling them Arcs.
Basketball ball never had an issue with saying 3 pointers though. Wonder how long it will take for downtown to come into radio commentators parlance here

systematic (Galway) - Posts: 136 - 09/03/2025 12:51:43    2595522

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The tweaks are minor enough in fairness. The next two rounds of the league should provide enough opportunity to adjust.
The big thing for the 11v11 now is that there should be contests. There have been some good contests where defenders cannot pass back to the keeper. The game needs to see similar challenges around the arc, instead of sitting ducks conceding a two pointer.
"Point". "____"? "Goal". Is there any one syllable name that can catch on for a two pointer?"
Hopefully this nonsensical 2pt arc is done away with… it adds nothing to the game.. All we have is a clatter of players patrolling the arc hoping the opponent has a pot shot with the majority landing short or going wide… It will be even worse at club level where players have even less chance of scoring.. As I have said leaving 3/4 players up and making the goalkeepers kick the ball beyond 40m was sufficient enough change to be getting on with instead of these multiple nonsensical changes that's turning the game into a farce…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3554 - 09/03/2025 13:36:09    2595532

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Hopefully this nonsensical 2pt arc is done away with… it adds nothing to the game.. All we have is a clatter of players patrolling the arc hoping the opponent has a pot shot with the majority landing short or going wide… It will be even worse at club level where players have even less chance of scoring.. As I have said leaving 3/4 players up and making the goalkeepers kick the ball beyond 40m was sufficient enough change to be getting on with instead of these multiple nonsensical changes that's turning the game into a farce…"
ForeverBlue2, you'll be forever blue complaining about the two pointer!!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8573 - 09/03/2025 15:59:36    2595560

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Replying To legendzxix:  "ForeverBlue2, you'll be forever blue complaining about the two pointer!!"
In hurling a few years back they introduced 2pts for converting a sideline cut but weren't long ditching it as it added nothing to the game… The 2 pointers in football add nothing to the game either except to distort score lines … and only leads to payers having pot shots

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3554 - 09/03/2025 16:42:41    2595570

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The tweaks are minor enough in fairness. The next two rounds of the league should provide enough opportunity to adjust.
The big thing for the 11v11 now is that there should be contests. There have been some good contests where defenders cannot pass back to the keeper. The game needs to see similar challenges around the arc, instead of sitting ducks conceding a two pointer.
"Point". "____"? "Goal". Is there any one syllable name that can catch on for a two pointer?"
I like the latest FRC tweaks - modest as you stated.

Just three things I'd want addressed:

a) Less line markings;
b) Reduce "kick to foot pass" ratio from >3.2x (to ~2x); and
c) Make Arc scores < distortive on traditional score totals.

My proposed remedies:
a) Eliminate 65s, 13s, Ds and small parallelograms;
b) Defence must 'kick a 45-65' into midfield contests; and
c) 'Every second Arc' is worth 2 pts; the first worth 1 pt.
[e.g. 1-4-10 is worth 19 pts (1-16); 1-7-10 worth 23 pts (1-20), with 'goal and point values' relatively appropriate].

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3107 - 09/03/2025 17:25:08    2595580

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "In hurling a few years back they introduced 2pts for converting a sideline cut but weren't long ditching it as it added nothing to the game… The 2 pointers in football add nothing to the game either except to distort score lines … and only leads to payers having pot shots"
After the atrocious football over recent years, it is no surprise that the risk of the longer shot is being rewarded. Otherwise you have pass, pass, pass trying to get into a scoring zone against a swarm defence.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8573 - 09/03/2025 18:57:47    2595604

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Replying To omahant:  "I like the latest FRC tweaks - modest as you stated.

Just three things I'd want addressed:

a) Less line markings;
b) Reduce "kick to foot pass" ratio from >3.2x (to ~2x); and
c) Make Arc scores < distortive on traditional score totals.

My proposed remedies:
a) Eliminate 65s, 13s, Ds and small parallelograms;
b) Defence must 'kick a 45-65' into midfield contests; and
c) 'Every second Arc' is worth 2 pts; the first worth 1 pt.
[e.g. 1-4-10 is worth 19 pts (1-16); 1-7-10 worth 23 pts (1-20), with 'goal and point values' relatively appropriate
."]Pardon?
a) you want to eliminate 65s that have nothing at all to do with football?
b) you want to use the 65s that you are eliminating in a) that have nothing to do with football and create a no mans land? Honestly lad, crazy stuff. The kick outs beyond the arc have created contests. From there teams are challenging for the breaking ball. There have been some great defending against teams trying to work the ball out from defence with the keeper not being an option.
c) answered you on that before. Catch yourself on lad!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8573 - 09/03/2025 19:03:08    2595606

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Replying To omahant:  "I like the latest FRC tweaks - modest as you stated.

Just three things I'd want addressed:

a) Less line markings;
b) Reduce "kick to foot pass" ratio from >3.2x (to ~2x); and
c) Make Arc scores < distortive on traditional score totals.

My proposed remedies:
a) Eliminate 65s, 13s, Ds and small parallelograms;
b) Defence must 'kick a 45-65' into midfield contests; and
c) 'Every second Arc' is worth 2 pts; the first worth 1 pt.
[e.g. 1-4-10 is worth 19 pts (1-16); 1-7-10 worth 23 pts (1-20), with 'goal and point values' relatively appropriate
."]Eh?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2112 - 09/03/2025 19:11:48    2595608

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