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Some Updates On The Football Review

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Replying To Kickitout:  "Who will want play in goal anymore after that train 4 days a week just to kick ball out and do it all in 20 seconds the Jim Gavin and his hand picked yes men have ruined football it's like basketball all zones u can't do this and that the day of the flair is gone I for one hope all teams who are safe in league puts out all there subs in protest an amateur sport being taken over by muppets ,,,"
Who will want play in goal anymore after that train 4 days a week just to kick ball out and do it all in 20 seconds the Jim Gavin and his hand picked yes men have ruined football it's like basketball all zones u can't do this and that the day of the flair is gone I for one hope all teams who are safe in league puts out all there subs in protest an amateur sport being taken over by muppets ,,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1015 - 07/03/2025 14:45:53 259

And what a statment that would make i'm sure the rule makers are trying to role back on the changes as i type.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 881 - 07/03/2025 15:03:11    2595252

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Surprised FRC Didn't amend the "Hand the ball back to fouled opponent rule" to "place the ball immediately on Ground where you stand" and retreat 13 meters" free kick can be taken where the foul was committed if closer to opponents goal or taken where the ball was placed on the ground. Players are going into battle, supporters want to see a battle, so this is not needed or wanted by the players or the supporters.

On the 4 v 3 amendment, it will basically put an end to Goalkeepers playing in opponents half which I think is a mistake from a entertainment point of view, the jeopardy of winning a ball back, watching a opponents keeper scramble to get back to his nets and seeing a player chipping the keeper from 40 meterw into a empty net was fantastic excitement for the crowd. Possible should of awarded 4 points for a goal scored from outside the 20m line or 13m line.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 07/03/2025 15:20:17    2595262

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The 20-second rule on goalkeeper kick-outs Should be the remit of the umpires to police and signal and shout to the keeper 10 seconds left (2 hands in the air) 5 seconds left (1 hand in the air).
Though can't see it working at a club level games without neutral umpires which would probably only be club championship matches.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 07/03/2025 15:27:44    2595265

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The 20-second rule on goalkeeper kick-outs Should be the remit of the umpires to police and signal and shout to the keeper 10 seconds left (2 hands in the air) 5 seconds left (1 hand in the air).
Though can't see it working at a club level games without neutral umpires which would probably only be club championship matches.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 07/03/2025 15:50:00    2595268

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Throwing mud at the wall to see what sticks at this stage.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3961 - 07/03/2025 15:54:17    2595270

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Replying To Kickitout:  "Who will want play in goal anymore after that train 4 days a week just to kick ball out and do it all in 20 seconds the Jim Gavin and his hand picked yes men have ruined football it's like basketball all zones u can't do this and that the day of the flair is gone I for one hope all teams who are safe in league puts out all there subs in protest an amateur sport being taken over by muppets ,,,"
Allowing the keeper to join the attack has ensured that the game was still quite zonal. Keeping the keeper back will allow teams to decide to defend man on man without leaving a free man somewhere.

They've also changed the rule on a card to keep 3 in the opposite half - I presume this includes the keeper; so thats the same 3 v 2 that looked like an issue?

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 404 - 07/03/2025 15:54:40    2595271

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Getting absolute farcical at this stage… FRC are becoming a comedy act….

mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 566 - 07/03/2025 16:12:52    2595274

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This whole rules debacle from the FRC reminds me of how our country is being run. It's a pure political monster and has been rammed through, although they said they have the surveys to back it up, it's all political nonsense. This whole thing is designed to keep Dublin and Kerry dominating Sam Maguire. Yes, i agree some rule changes were needed and are healthy to keep analysing our game to improve it, but it is now a complete joke and they will try and cover it up in the next few years.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 748 - 07/03/2025 16:53:31    2595282

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Frc are yes men nothing else heard Jim Gavin say when county manager questioned soome of rules he said county game is only 2% of the national game so i presume then he will make sure that there are 2 linesman at every club game in country ( neutral ones ) no hoter at division 3-4 matches how is this ?? If all teams are suppose be treated equal it's time for county managers to stand up to these yes men they train 2 hard and give up there time and god only knows what rules they come up with next no young player will play in goal now sorry meant stand in goal they won't be playing just kicking ball out maybe they get machine next to do that

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1017 - 07/03/2025 16:55:45    2595283

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Replying To Tirchonailabu56:  "The 20-second rule on goalkeeper kick-outs Should be the remit of the umpires to police and signal and shout to the keeper 10 seconds left (2 hands in the air) 5 seconds left (1 hand in the air).
Though can't see it working at a club level games without neutral umpires which would probably only be club championship matches."
Makes sense to me - very hard on the keeper to be counting up to 20 as well as trying to figure out where to kick the ball. The referee could do that either - have the hand in the air counting down from 5 fingers.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 404 - 07/03/2025 17:11:03    2595287

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Great work by Gavin and the FRC. People are interested in gaelic football.
Thank you to FRC. The keeper touching the ball to prevent 2 pointer might cause controversy
in critical games. Most of the rules are decent and add excitement for everybody.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1711 - 08/03/2025 12:54:44    2595378

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Great work by Gavin and the FRC. People are interested in gaelic football.
Thank you to FRC. The keeper touching the ball to prevent 2 pointer might cause controversy
in critical games. Most of the rules are decent and add excitement for everybody."
Most of the rules are pure nonsense… Gavin and the FRC have turned Gaelic football into Gaelic Rugby.. the winning teams kicking the ball into the crowd to end the match yet another take from the rugger boys…Everyone agrees that something needed to be done as the game had gone terrible but keeping 3/4 up and making the goalkeeper kick the ball out was all that was needed to improve the game…. All these rule changes are farcical and show no regard for referees taking charge of club games totally on their own.. The FRC should be ashamed of themselves for what they have done to the game

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3549 - 08/03/2025 13:18:16    2595379

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Most of the rules are pure nonsense… Gavin and the FRC have turned Gaelic football into Gaelic Rugby.. the winning teams kicking the ball into the crowd to end the match yet another take from the rugger boys…Everyone agrees that something needed to be done as the game had gone terrible but keeping 3/4 up and making the goalkeeper kick the ball out was all that was needed to improve the game…. All these rule changes are farcical and show no regard for referees taking charge of club games totally on their own.. The FRC should be ashamed of themselves for what they have done to the game"
Have 2 agree completely they are destroying our game I feel sorry for goal keeper now they are basically just kicking ball out now to middle of field don't think they need train 3-4 times per week to do that also hard see any young kids now want play in goal ,, lots people saying game is better now more scores are there many more scores , Galway my county are still scoring around same 13-16 scores the value of score gone up also agree about hoter in reality with 30 second left game is over if team just puts ball out play near corner flag no chance of getting up the field also no hoter in division 3-4 explain that one

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1017 - 08/03/2025 13:47:12    2595386

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Replying To Tirchonailabu56:  "The 20-second rule on goalkeeper kick-outs Should be the remit of the umpires to police and signal and shout to the keeper 10 seconds left (2 hands in the air) 5 seconds left (1 hand in the air).
Though can't see it working at a club level games without neutral umpires which would probably only be club championship matches."
One "use it" call with 5 seconds to kick.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3105 - 08/03/2025 15:17:16    2595393

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Replying To brianb:  "Allowing the keeper to join the attack has ensured that the game was still quite zonal. Keeping the keeper back will allow teams to decide to defend man on man without leaving a free man somewhere.

They've also changed the rule on a card to keep 3 in the opposite half - I presume this includes the keeper; so thats the same 3 v 2 that looked like an issue?"
I don't understand 3v2 - my understanding is "ANY 3 up / ANY 4 back".

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3105 - 08/03/2025 15:22:24    2595395

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Great work by Gavin and the FRC. People are interested in gaelic football.
Thank you to FRC. The keeper touching the ball to prevent 2 pointer might cause controversy
in critical games. Most of the rules are decent and add excitement for everybody."
They have just made goalkeepers basically stand online and no other involvement in game such a backwards step.No young lad will want to play in goals just as it was becoming a great position to play in.If you keeping goalie back why not keep fullback in his square and corner forward in the forward.Its really ironic from Jim Gavin as Stephen Cluxton who was the start of making a goalkeeper really important to a team.Ridoculous

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 391 - 08/03/2025 15:54:13    2595400

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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "They have just made goalkeepers basically stand online and no other involvement in game such a backwards step.No young lad will want to play in goals just as it was becoming a great position to play in.If you keeping goalie back why not keep fullback in his square and corner forward in the forward.Its really ironic from Jim Gavin as Stephen Cluxton who was the start of making a goalkeeper really important to a team.Ridoculous"
Dontvrecall Cluxton bolting up the field every second minute!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2108 - 08/03/2025 16:24:49    2595405

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Replying To omahant:  "I don't understand 3v2 - my understanding is "ANY 3 up / ANY 4 back"."
If there's a card in play - they say 3 up and back. So when attacking I'd take it the 3 back would include the keeper? That would seem to mean the opposition would need to leave 3 up to mark 2 defenders and a keeper left back? So no real change to the status quo when attacking?

I might have it wrong - but I don't think it's clear. Another example of First Rate Communication from the FRC.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 404 - 08/03/2025 20:44:41    2595455

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Replying To brianb:  "If there's a card in play - they say 3 up and back. So when attacking I'd take it the 3 back would include the keeper? That would seem to mean the opposition would need to leave 3 up to mark 2 defenders and a keeper left back? So no real change to the status quo when attacking?

I might have it wrong - but I don't think it's clear. Another example of First Rate Communication from the FRC."
Don't think there is any issue here. Before the "tweaks" a team that was down to 14 was required to keep only 2 players "up" as opposed to 3 when having the full complement of 15.
A team before the "tweaks" was required to keep 3 "back" in all circumstances not including the goalie.
Now they must keep 4 back either including or excluding the goalie. If the goalie crosses the half way line then there must be 4 of his outfield colleagues behind the halfway line.
Being down a man never affected the 3 back rule so no clarification was required.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 851 - 08/03/2025 21:50:25    2595464

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The tweaks are minor enough in fairness. The next two rounds of the league should provide enough opportunity to adjust.
The big thing for the 11v11 now is that there should be contests. There have been some good contests where defenders cannot pass back to the keeper. The game needs to see similar challenges around the arc, instead of sitting ducks conceding a two pointer.
"Point". "____"? "Goal". Is there any one syllable name that can catch on for a two pointer?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8569 - 09/03/2025 07:09:31    2595487

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