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Some Updates On The Football Review

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "I know Tyrone have a reputation for the dark arts but your really over thinking this one.

if a rule that doenst exist gave Tyrone the chance to be cynical, they would do it and poor Galway would be beaten!!!

Relax and enjoy Galway kicking long range points and being rewarded for it, stop worrying about big bad Tyrone ruining football."
This was explaining why the option for a 2 pointer infringement for not keeping 3 up/back needs to be kept.
If a team is in the lead with a few minutes left, you can drop everyone back, the play will continue so time is wasted and when the ref is told then its only one point and it's better than conceding a 2 pointer or a goal.
If my team was in the situation of leading id be expecting them to exploit that and teams will in championship.

Tribes88 (Galway) - Posts: 33 - 04/03/2025 07:29:55    2594603

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "What if his mother was born on an aeroplane?"
There was actually a Kerry All-Ireland winning player called Pat 'Aeroplane' O Shea, and Con Houlihan used to talk of low flying seagulls being in danger when Brian Mullins or Jack O Shea were playing. But, enough of this nonsense - this is supposed to be a serious forum!

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 322 - 04/03/2025 10:34:04    2594626

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If the tweaks to rules are voted in,will they be in operation for end of league?
Will they come in for championship or what way are things going to work?
I'm all for improving what in my opinion had become a horrible game to watch.however I fear there is to much happening in a short space of time.I feel really sorry for officials on duty in any game now and I can't wait to see how a club game goes with just a ref available.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2467 - 04/03/2025 12:50:17    2594660

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Keep the 3 up ( maybe 4 ) and the solo and go but only after stopping…plus the kick outs… the game would be just fine…. Ditch all the other nonsense especially handing the ball back and the silly 2 pointers….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3544 - 04/03/2025 13:15:23    2594670

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Keep the 3 up ( maybe 4 ) and the solo and go but only after stopping…plus the kick outs… the game would be just fine…. Ditch all the other nonsense especially handing the ball back and the silly 2 pointers…."
I think the handing the ball back has been the biggest success of them all.
They game is back and moving again immediately after a free. Gone are the days of the offending team, holding onto the ball, throwing it away, starting a row, lying on the ball etc (and a range of S#!t housery). Now you foul, your actually worse off than if you don't foul - so the game is the better for it.
You must have loved the days when a team was chasing the game only for the leading team to be messing around fouling and slowing down play. I'd say your in the minority.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1245 - 06/03/2025 10:13:21    2595002

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "I think the handing the ball back has been the biggest success of them all.
They game is back and moving again immediately after a free. Gone are the days of the offending team, holding onto the ball, throwing it away, starting a row, lying on the ball etc (and a range of S#!t housery). Now you foul, your actually worse off than if you don't foul - so the game is the better for it.
You must have loved the days when a team was chasing the game only for the leading team to be messing around fouling and slowing down play. I'd say your in the minority."
I'm in the majority as usual… handing the ball back is just childish… what's wrong with placing the ball on the ground with any other action penalised..? And don't be foolish… when the games matter and a team are leading near the end all the usual slowing of play down will surface..!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3544 - 06/03/2025 13:09:59    2595036

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The rules were brough in for lots of reasons I think one reason was to see more actual kicking of ball I for one don't think there is anyone kicking I've being at all Galway matches so far and last match v Tyrone o flaherty Silke Mulkerrins Kelly Maher and Hernon none of them actually kicked the ball once all of them started ,,is that hard believe but unfortunately it's true just running and hand passing only for Shane Walsh with all his 2 pointers is papering over the cracks Galway are still getting 11-16 scores but it's just value of scores gone up 2 pointers

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1017 - 06/03/2025 15:52:09    2595079

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Replying To Kickitout:  "The rules were brough in for lots of reasons I think one reason was to see more actual kicking of ball I for one don't think there is anyone kicking I've being at all Galway matches so far and last match v Tyrone o flaherty Silke Mulkerrins Kelly Maher and Hernon none of them actually kicked the ball once all of them started ,,is that hard believe but unfortunately it's true just running and hand passing only for Shane Walsh with all his 2 pointers is papering over the cracks Galway are still getting 11-16 scores but it's just value of scores gone up 2 pointers"
Exactly… the 2 pointers are just distorting score lines and add nothing to games…. in fact they are leading to a huge drop in goal chances.. I would immediately get rid of these ridiculous 2 pointers…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3544 - 06/03/2025 18:07:31    2595111

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Exactly… the 2 pointers are just distorting score lines and add nothing to games…. in fact they are leading to a huge drop in goal chances.. I would immediately get rid of these ridiculous 2 pointers…"
Throwing the baby out with the bath water?
The value of goals need to be reevaluated. Taking on the riskier long range score is being rewarded. After years of a safety first policy, risk has to be rewarded.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8566 - 07/03/2025 09:22:52    2595169

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Exactly… the 2 pointers are just distorting score lines and add nothing to games…. in fact they are leading to a huge drop in goal chances.. I would immediately get rid of these ridiculous 2 pointers…"
I agree with that. I'd keep the other changes - they're enough to create a more vertical game. As it stands, the value of the goal is diminished and going for a goal is seriously disincentivised.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 126 - 07/03/2025 11:49:52    2595199

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The Irish Examiner have reported on six tweaks expected for the experimental rules. Teams will have to keep 4 back. The keeper can go forward but another player has to stay back. If players are black carded or sent off, they still have to keep 3 forward.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8566 - 07/03/2025 11:50:41    2595201

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Get rid of 2 pointers for sure!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8705 - 07/03/2025 12:03:30    2595205

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With it being an astro turf pitch will there be a 2 point line in Gaelic Park (New York) for the game against Galway?

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 537 - 07/03/2025 12:18:50    2595210

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Replying To Temple56:  "With it being an astro turf pitch will there be a 2 point line in Gaelic Park (New York) for the game against Galway?"
There will have to be to comply with the rules.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2107 - 07/03/2025 12:52:05    2595219

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The Irish Examiner have reported on six tweaks expected for the experimental rules. Teams will have to keep 4 back. The keeper can go forward but another player has to stay back. If players are black carded or sent off, they still have to keep 3 forward."
More confusion on the pitch on game day. We now need a 4m line either side of the halfway line...bonkers

Dualstar22 (Galway) - Posts: 9 - 07/03/2025 13:18:45    2595225

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "There will have to be to comply with the rules."
They're going to put cones out to mark it !

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1486 - 07/03/2025 13:56:02    2595233

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Replying To Dualstar22:  "More confusion on the pitch on game day. We now need a 4m line either side of the halfway line...bonkers"
No 4 metre line. It is supposed to be "an easing of accidental, unintentional or marginal breaches". One would expect common sense and players to be warned to go back!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8566 - 07/03/2025 13:58:46    2595235

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "I agree with that. I'd keep the other changes - they're enough to create a more vertical game. As it stands, the value of the goal is diminished and going for a goal is seriously disincentivised."
Maybe keep traditional 3/1 scoring:
Goal 3
Arc 1
Inside Arc/20m 'over the bar' 1 (ONLY after a 45-20 kick)
Inside Arc/20m 'over bar, wide' 0 (WITHOUT prior 45-20)

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3105 - 07/03/2025 14:05:33    2595236

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The Irish Examiner have reported on six tweaks expected for the experimental rules. Teams will have to keep 4 back. The keeper can go forward but another player has to stay back. If players are black carded or sent off, they still have to keep 3 forward."
There seems to be no time limit if 1 of the 3 up/ 4 back accidentally wander across the halfway line - there should be an endeavour to correct.
I generally like the tweaks - and I suspect strong majority support.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3105 - 07/03/2025 14:13:20    2595243

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Who will want play in goal anymore after that train 4 days a week just to kick ball out and do it all in 20 seconds the Jim Gavin and his hand picked yes men have ruined football it's like basketball all zones u can't do this and that the day of the flair is gone I for one hope all teams who are safe in league puts out all there subs in protest an amateur sport being taken over by muppets ,,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1017 - 07/03/2025 14:45:53    2595249

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