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Replying To Kew:  "Leinster don't care about urc they let the fullback go off and play 7s rugby instead. Rte had never shown it until 2 or 3 years ago, because it's cheap and fills timeslots like repeats they have on. They aren't even going to bother showing it next year. It was won by the Scots for god sake."
They did care. They let Hugo keenan go play 7s because its the Olympics and mad to stop player from trying to get a medal. New Zealand, France and many others have also had players go from 15s fo try win 7s medals. Dupont this year for France is a good example.
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Rte have shown the urc before 2 or 3 years ago. They had it in early 2010s
Won by a Scottish team doesn't mean its bad. Ignorant in the extreme to say that!

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3551 - 24/06/2024 10:49:25    2554314

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Replying To KillingFields:  "No big deal?
It was huge for munster especially as it was a first trophy in over a decade, it showed Graham rowntree was right guy in the role.
Pro rugby teams can only win 2 trophies a season so winning one especially now South Africans are in the league is very good and it's a tough thing to do
Leinster want a 5th European cup but also still want the league. Yes Lowe doesn't play much but that's simply because of strength in depth leinster have over nearly every team in league that they can afford to have some of their top players play very little and they will still top or be near top of league come playoff stages.
It isn't near the same as those soccer gaa competitions and the comparisons are way off."
Time to 'invent' a third trophy perhaps, so they'd have an extended opportunity for 'success'. Some sort of 'league cup' perhaps, but utilising words like 'conference' or 'intercontinental' in the title name also.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3620 - 24/06/2024 11:03:29    2554321

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Replying To KillingFields:  "They did care. They let Hugo keenan go play 7s because its the Olympics and mad to stop player from trying to get a medal. New Zealand, France and many others have also had players go from 15s fo try win 7s medals. Dupont this year for France is a good example.
Rte
Rte have shown the urc before 2 or 3 years ago. They had it in early 2010s
Won by a Scottish team doesn't mean its bad. Ignorant in the extreme to say that!"
Dupont was back playing for Toulouse Friday night in top 14 semi finals as they are a big deal.

There is no engagement with it geographically it's an issue

A lot of games played in near empty stadiums in wales and SA

Leinster played a semi final at half strength last year.

Andrew Porter himself has said along same lines it not of great importance to them but ormo knows better

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1185 - 24/06/2024 11:29:36    2554348

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Replying To KillingFields:  "They did care. They let Hugo keenan go play 7s because its the Olympics and mad to stop player from trying to get a medal. New Zealand, France and many others have also had players go from 15s fo try win 7s medals. Dupont this year for France is a good example.
Rte
Rte have shown the urc before 2 or 3 years ago. They had it in early 2010s
Won by a Scottish team doesn't mean its bad. Ignorant in the extreme to say that!"
Dupont didn't leave mid season.he was there for toulouse 2 main competitions.keenan wasn't. So suggesting leinster take urc seriously is just not true. It's a nothing competition.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 221 - 24/06/2024 11:40:41    2554352

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Replying To jm25:  "Dupont was back playing for Toulouse Friday night in top 14 semi finals as they are a big deal.

There is no engagement with it geographically it's an issue

A lot of games played in near empty stadiums in wales and SA

Leinster played a semi final at half strength last year.

Andrew Porter himself has said along same lines it not of great importance to them but ormo knows better"
Leinster had a champions cup final following week so had no choice but to field a weakened team. Derry vs Mayo was on tv, Gaa go is a television station once you pay for it, lads spend €20-30 a week on coffees and chicken rolls but moan about spending €12 on two hours of quality entertainment. What do you do if you go to the cinema?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1574 - 24/06/2024 12:15:07    2554370

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Replying To KillingFields:  "They did care. They let Hugo keenan go play 7s because its the Olympics and mad to stop player from trying to get a medal. New Zealand, France and many others have also had players go from 15s fo try win 7s medals. Dupont this year for France is a good example.
Rte
Rte have shown the urc before 2 or 3 years ago. They had it in early 2010s
Won by a Scottish team doesn't mean its bad. Ignorant in the extreme to say that!"
Keenan was watching it on TV

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 10 - 24/06/2024 12:24:29    2554376

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Replying To KillingFields:  "No big deal?
It was huge for munster especially as it was a first trophy in over a decade, it showed Graham rowntree was right guy in the role.
Pro rugby teams can only win 2 trophies a season so winning one especially now South Africans are in the league is very good and it's a tough thing to do
Leinster want a 5th European cup but also still want the league. Yes Lowe doesn't play much but that's simply because of strength in depth leinster have over nearly every team in league that they can afford to have some of their top players play very little and they will still top or be near top of league come playoff stages.
It isn't near the same as those soccer gaa competitions and the comparisons are way off."
It is definitely better with the SA teams involved. I think they structured it better this year, knock out stages after the champions cup (at least after Irish interest ended). Last year made the comp look like a joke with Leinster resting half a team in the semi final.

Munster, defending champions brought 14k to a home quarter final and then 20k to a home semi final, with rugby at an all time high in Ireland, definitely doesn't give the impression the competition has captured the imagination of the public.

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 350 - 24/06/2024 13:07:41    2554394

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They put the two best games on GAAGo this Saturday. Looks like the want to get a crowd at the game because Armagh and Roscommon will bring fans

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 10 - 24/06/2024 14:53:37    2554435

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Replying To Kew:  "They put the two best games on GAAGo this Saturday. Looks like the want to get a crowd at the game because Armagh and Roscommon will bring fans"
Kerry Derry is good game maybe bit huge crowd bit good as game as Dublin galway

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 246 - 24/06/2024 15:13:55    2554448

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Replying To Kew:  "They put the two best games on GAAGo this Saturday. Looks like the want to get a crowd at the game because Armagh and Roscommon will bring fans"
With Dee Forbes still involved with that GAAGO it is best avoided

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2181 - 26/06/2024 10:29:22    2554908

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Replying To Kew:  "They put the two best games on GAAGo this Saturday. Looks like the want to get a crowd at the game because Armagh and Roscommon will bring fans"
Kerry Derry beats Armagh Ros on paper imo. Mayo established clear superiority over this Roscommon side in very recent weeks. Yet we have to look at Ros playing this game, when many would be of the opinion that Mayo would present a far stiffer test currently to Armagh, than this Ros side will be capable of. That's what Mayo v Ros × 2 showed up recently.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3620 - 26/06/2024 14:12:08    2554972

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Kerry Derry beats Armagh Ros on paper imo. Mayo established clear superiority over this Roscommon side in very recent weeks. Yet we have to look at Ros playing this game, when many would be of the opinion that Mayo would present a far stiffer test currently to Armagh, than this Ros side will be capable of. That's what Mayo v Ros × 2 showed up recently."
We know the structure, Riscommon know the structure. They were smarter because they won the games that mattered.Fair play to them and best of luck to them and yourselves.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7455 - 26/06/2024 16:05:34    2554999

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "We know the structure, Riscommon know the structure. They were smarter because they won the games that mattered.Fair play to them and best of luck to them and yourselves."
Absolutely, but that doesn't alter the suspicion that Mayo are a better side than Roscommon, on all known & even recent form.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3620 - 26/06/2024 18:48:20    2555024

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Absolutely, but that doesn't alter the suspicion that Mayo are a better side than Roscommon, on all known & even recent form."
They're probably better than Louth too but do Louth care? or Ros either .
No!
Much too busy preparing fir the Quarter Finals!!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1633 - 26/06/2024 20:43:09    2555041

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Absolutely, but that doesn't alter the suspicion that Mayo are a better side than Roscommon, on all known & even recent form."
But that's exactly the point. Better sides get results when they're needed even if some stats rank them a bit lower and know that playing good football or very defensively doesn't guarantee results. Roscommon didn't peak until the right time. Some Mayo supporters will 'take comfort' thinking we're better than X,Y and Z now we're out. If Derry were to go on and lift Sam this year, unlikely, some would be saying sure last year's champs couldn't beat us and this year's champs didn't beat us, we're the second best team in Ireland. When that's not true at all. We're not close to winning an All Ireland on this years form. Roscommon aren't either but they're still there. Every team knows the system. Crying in hindsight won't improve us in the future. Treating draws or 1 point defeats as great results and one point wins as great results but not learning how to close the games like confident teams do. Lost 11 finals but not finding reasons why we can't close out big games first and, only then, trying to fix it. Almost looking content to be contenders, whatever contending means.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7455 - 27/06/2024 09:13:39    2555087

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "But that's exactly the point. Better sides get results when they're needed even if some stats rank them a bit lower and know that playing good football or very defensively doesn't guarantee results. Roscommon didn't peak until the right time. Some Mayo supporters will 'take comfort' thinking we're better than X,Y and Z now we're out. If Derry were to go on and lift Sam this year, unlikely, some would be saying sure last year's champs couldn't beat us and this year's champs didn't beat us, we're the second best team in Ireland. When that's not true at all. We're not close to winning an All Ireland on this years form. Roscommon aren't either but they're still there. Every team knows the system. Crying in hindsight won't improve us in the future. Treating draws or 1 point defeats as great results and one point wins as great results but not learning how to close the games like confident teams do. Lost 11 finals but not finding reasons why we can't close out big games first and, only then, trying to fix it. Almost looking content to be contenders, whatever contending means."
The last time a side couldn't lose and then win it out was back in the 90s.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12880 - 27/06/2024 15:21:36    2555191

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Replying To Kew:  "They put the two best games on GAAGo this Saturday. Looks like the want to get a crowd at the game because Armagh and Roscommon will bring fans"
They do that to maximise streaming revenue. It has nothing to do with maximising crowds.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12880 - 27/06/2024 15:22:44    2555192

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Replying To Viking66:  "The last time a side couldn't lose and then win it out was back in the 90s."
2000.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7455 - 27/06/2024 15:41:36    2555196

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