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The last thing alot of these lads need, the like of oregan, kinlough, Duke etc, is to go back and fester at their clubs next year. The standard of Meath club football is absolutely atrocious so that would not benefit these lads at all, they would regress quickly. southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 933 - 23/05/2024 12:39:20 2546572 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "What is 'the level' we are talking about? Obviously the level Dublin or Kerry etc is a massive step up for everyone introduced to county level but what I'm talking about is our own senior squad. Are many way about these guys which I'm suggesting are the best of that played against Kerry. I don't believe so and the ability to improve quickly is also a factor. I am sick listening to Conservative views about holding lads back when we are in great need of improvement." So I would be completely behind bringing these lads in to the set up and as you say backing them to improve quickly... my point is more with regard to them making an impact against Louth monaghan or kerry this year. I think it's easy to underestimate the level of senior players due to the success of an underage team against lads their own age. People who have watched these lads play adult football will have seen glimpses but know also there is a rawness there. At the same time there's no doubt if the senior team is to get where we want them to go there is a lot lacking in our squad that could be found in the great young players that are in the county. I just don't think it's possible this Saturday or probably this year. TigerKing (Meath) - Posts: 41 - 23/05/2024 12:48:40 2546575 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "What is 'the level' we are talking about? Obviously the level Dublin or Kerry etc is a massive step up for everyone introduced to county level but what I'm talking about is our own senior squad. Are many way about these guys which I'm suggesting are the best of that played against Kerry. I don't believe so and the ability to improve quickly is also a factor. I am sick listening to Conservative views about holding lads back when we are in great need of improvement." I think they should be standing out on their club adult team first, how many of the starting 15 are the strongest players in their club. i would be guessing but id say there is 3 or 4 that don't start for their adult club team, and club football in Meath is not strong. Harnan6 (Meath) - Posts: 35 - 23/05/2024 16:34:04 2546649 Link
Replying To Harnan6: "I think they should be standing out on their club adult team first, how many of the starting 15 are the strongest players in their club. i would be guessing but id say there is 3 or 4 that don't start for their adult club team, and club football in Meath is not strong." I wouldn't be too worried about that. These guys probably haven't played with their club at all this year and some not at all before due to age limits. Young lads have other distractions including exams or going abroad etc. These guys are proven at U20 County level, a much higher level than most run of the mill club games in Meath. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 568 - 23/05/2024 18:24:51 2546676 Link
Replying To southmeathgael: "The last thing alot of these lads need, the like of oregan, kinlough, Duke etc, is to go back and fester at their clubs next year. The standard of Meath club football is absolutely atrocious so that would not benefit these lads at all, they would regress quickly." "The standard of Meath club football is absolutely atrocious" I think your being a bit over dramatic there southmeathgael. Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 678 - 23/05/2024 18:29:09 2546677 Link
Pretty uninspiring team and squad named. A lot of defensive players named. Is Seamus Lavin not back on the panel? Where has Diarmuid moriarty gone? BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 987 - 24/05/2024 10:48:38 2546762 Link
Replying To BigJoe14: "Pretty uninspiring team and squad named. A lot of defensive players named. Is Seamus Lavin not back on the panel? Where has Diarmuid moriarty gone?" Happy enough with that team and squad. Really pleased and surprised to see Cillian O' back in and it's a good sign that Morris is able for bench. Beyond Moriarty, who COR has never seemed sold on, not sure what rabbits they could have pulled out of a hat at this stage. It's not like there are some great players kicking their heels out there because COR won't select them. MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 24/05/2024 11:17:32 2546775 Link
Replying To southmeathgael: "The last thing alot of these lads need, the like of oregan, kinlough, Duke etc, is to go back and fester at their clubs next year. The standard of Meath club football is absolutely atrocious so that would not benefit these lads at all, they would regress quickly." Certainly think a lot of them will be on the panel next year. Or certainly the development panel. But might take a further year or two until they are playing consistently LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1513 - 24/05/2024 11:41:47 2546781 Link
Replying To Royal.Legend: ""The standard of Meath club football is absolutely atrocious" I think your being a bit over dramatic there southmeathgael." Wouldn't say thats overly dramatic. The structure and number of teams at senior level has made it extremely uncompetitive. I'd say half of the teams in our senior championship would just about be competitive in the Dublin intermediate championship. At the very least it should be split into Senior A and B jetser (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 24/05/2024 12:25:19 2546801 Link
I'm assuming traffic/ parking is going to be a total disaster....can anyone in the know shed some light on this?. Feel it wasn't taken into consideration whatsoever when ratifying the ground for louths home game. southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 933 - 24/05/2024 14:40:40 2546836 Link
Listened to three different previews today, all backing Louth and saying they were way ahead of Meath. I do think Louth are slight favourites but I'd say only slight. We had similar league campaigns, and we did beat them. In Leinster, they didn't look great against Wexford, beat a car crash of a Kildare team and, OK, were smartly set up against Dublin. Yes, we could be rusty after 6 weeks off. Or we could come out by the clappers after focusing on this one game for so long. I honestly think there is a huge performance in this Meath team, we saw glimpses of it in league when we closed it out against Louth and Kildare, when we had Cork on the ropes and that first half against Cavan. Even in the Dublin match we looked strong for 20 minutes, well set up with some great turnovers. This could all look a bit silly by 7pm Saturday, but I think we could put down a real marker on Saturday. MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 24/05/2024 16:05:32 2546871 Link
Team named - as always probably best taken with a pinch of salt as managers love to make changes just before the game starts! Good to see Ronan Ryan back in the team and interesting also to see Cillian O'Sullivan also named! I'm a fan of both Daithi McGowan and Jordan Morris so a little disappointed they aren't named in the the starting team! Interesting also to see Daragh Campion named at 6 - I like him there although I know not everyone agrees! He is a good ball player and I think Conlon and Frayne could do well off his passing into the forward line! I think this is one we can win - and what a start that would give us!!! Meath: Billy Hogan (Maigh Dearmhaí), Donal Keogan (Rath Coinnig), Adam O'Neill (Bhulf Tón), Ronan Ryan (Druim Samhraidh), Harry O'Higgins (Emmet Druim Bhearradh), Darragh Campion (Scrín), Sean Coffey (Baile na Breacaighe), Ronan Jones (Naomh Peadar Dún Bóinne) (Capt.), Cian McBride (Naomh Ultain), Ciaran Caulfield (Áth Troim), Cillian O'Sullivan (Magh nAilbhe), Cathal Hickey (Baile Sencaill), James Conlon (Naomh Colmcille), Mathew Costello (Domhnach Seachnaill), Eoghan Frayne (Druim Samhraidh). Subs: Sean Brennan (Dún Doire), Michael Murphy (Naomh Peadar Dún Bóinne), Sean Ryan (Naomh Peadar Dún Bóinne), Brian O'Halloran (Baile Íomhair), Ross Ryan (Druim Samhraidh), Conor Gray (Domhnach Seachnaill), Daithí McGowan (Rath Tó), Ruairí Kinsella (Domhnach Seachnaill), Jack O'Connor (Currach Átha), Jordan Morris (Réaltaí Dún a Rí), Aaron Lynch (Áth Troim) Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 504 - 24/05/2024 16:58:48 2546877 Link
Good to see Gray back in the squad. Likewise a positive to have Cillian O'Sullivan back in action but I'd be surprised if he starts with no game time so far this year. I'd have Jack O'Connor starting we will need his pace and direct running. men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2003 - 24/05/2024 18:48:56 2546884 Link
Anyone confident about a win tomorrow? Very hard to know what way this game will swing but wouldn't get too caught up on Louths performance against Dublin. Think we've a good chance at a win? SillySimonsOpinion (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 24/05/2024 21:06:54 2546887 Link
Replying To SillySimonsOpinion: "Anyone confident about a win tomorrow? Very hard to know what way this game will swing but wouldn't get too caught up on Louths performance against Dublin. Think we've a good chance at a win?" Maybe I'm mad but I am confident. I really like the look of our full back line. Ronan Ryan should be a big addition. I would like to see Ross Ryan come in for campo and Conor Gray for either of the midfielders. Really hoping Cillian o'sullivan plays well. He had a rough time of it with concussions in his last year with meath. Anyone who knows him knows that he genuinely puts the work in. One of the hardest working players on the team. Delighted Billy Hogan is starting. The biggest worry is the meath half back line. Just doesn't look strong at all. O'Higgins wing back is a strange call. Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 176 - 25/05/2024 09:06:01 2546912 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I would be shocked if Tyrone did not take this approach. They won the all Ireland under 20 comfortably 2 years ago. Of that team only 3 played their game against Donegal, and one of those (Ruairi Canavan) only came on in extra time. That's an all Ireland winning team from 2 years ago and still very few are playing championship for them. And Gray was definetly physically ready to compete at senior, but let's not forget it was Tailteann cup he played last year not all Ireland, and COR himself said Tailteann gave him freedom to throw in younger lads" Tyrone have just drafted in five off 20's team. Assume you are shocked about that but I am not. Tyrone already have a far better senior squad having taken Donegal right to the wire and now want immediate improvement. We are happy to send the best of our U20s back to play substandard club league football when our senior team is crying out for an injection of something. I'm not saying these guys would immediately be starters but at a minimum they should have been brought in. There's alot of existing and extended panel members on senior squad that won't make the standard required. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 568 - 25/05/2024 10:02:57 2546919 Link
Replying To Sheridan2010louth: "Maybe I'm mad but I am confident. I really like the look of our full back line. Ronan Ryan should be a big addition. I would like to see Ross Ryan come in for campo and Conor Gray for either of the midfielders. Really hoping Cillian o'sullivan plays well. He had a rough time of it with concussions in his last year with meath. Anyone who knows him knows that he genuinely puts the work in. One of the hardest working players on the team. Delighted Billy Hogan is starting. The biggest worry is the meath half back line. Just doesn't look strong at all. O'Higgins wing back is a strange call." I can see Brian o halloran coming in for o Higgins in the second half, need pace and energy just like he added in pairc tailteann at the start of the year Unitedroyal (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 25/05/2024 12:44:05 2546953 Link
Replying To southmeathgael: "I'm assuming traffic/ parking is going to be a total disaster....can anyone in the know shed some light on this?. Feel it wasn't taken into consideration whatsoever when ratifying the ground for louths home game." Wondering this too!! Better to park a mile out and walk in? Eri (Meath) - Posts: 46 - 25/05/2024 13:34:33 2546963 Link
Shocking performance in that first half.Clueless,lethargic etc 9 points down at half time v Louth.Its a sad state for Meath football. Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 25/05/2024 18:11:43 2547003 Link
Must have been building sandcastles during the last few weeks and you'll still have people defending him Meathfor@life (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 25/05/2024 18:56:36 2547020 Link