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Tough playing Hurling League SF and F on consecutive weekends, then only 2 weeks to the Provincials. Make reaching the League knockout less desirable than it is already. And then no gap between county club championships and intercounty starting again.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13721 - 17/04/2024 14:32:10 2538623 Link 0 |
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Now you're only giving four months to club championships (September through to December), as opposed to the six you suggested last night (October to March). You're even arguing against yourself..... Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2596 - 17/04/2024 14:33:05 2538625 Link 0 |
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Only got the last 10 minutes of interview, but BBC Ulster talk back show had Jarlath on today's show from 12 to 1. Might be worth listening back on BBC sounds. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2149 - 17/04/2024 15:07:12 2538635 Link 1 |
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All those you mentioned looked to the future. You left out the best of all - Credit Unions. Then again they started ( John Hume) in Ireland round 1960, after your time Barney Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1936 - 17/04/2024 15:51:30 2538653 Link 0 |
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It was a good listen. He answered everything truthfully and honestly and put up a great defence against those within the Unionist political and media Establishment who berate the GAA at every turn.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9781 - 17/04/2024 15:56:08 2538654 Link 1 |
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Ours started in 1964. I'd have nothing only for them.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13721 - 17/04/2024 17:02:41 2538665 Link 1 |
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Not at all! The provincial club and All-Ireland club championships should run in parallel with the early rounds of the Allianz leagues. Club championships from September to February at least.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8266 - 17/04/2024 17:11:11 2538668 Link 0 |
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You still haven't answered the question about venues with suitable floodlights for the hurling to be played? Assuming there are playable pitches? This year the club championships would still be going now. And provincial club championships can't be run off in 4 weeks either. Takes 8 minimum to run off the Leinster club championships. If they start in March it means the top club players who make the AI club series won't be able to play in their intercounty championships until July. They will miss most of their county's provincial championship games. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13721 - 17/04/2024 17:39:07 2538675 Link 0 |
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I think you will find that the first credit unions date back much longer than that. and had nothing whatsoever to do with John Hume :-) Even the current league was founded when Hume - a great man no doubt - was still in short pants.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3085 - 17/04/2024 17:56:45 2538684 Link 1 |
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Completely agree, I have played club championships that have been delayed due to the County team being successful and never once heard a team mate complain, I mean if Antrim got to an all Ireland semi final or final would there be uproar because the club championships were delayed or sheer joy at the county team going well. A club player whinging that he doesn't know when to take a holiday cos the county team might win something will be the first one still looking for tickets to go to said game. At the end of the day only 4 counties out of 32 reach all Ireland finals. July finals is ridiculous always has been, at the same time doesn't have to be September either, push it in to August, reduce or remove the early season comps and give the games time to breathe and the promotion it deserves. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1422 - 17/04/2024 19:09:13 2538696 Link 3 |
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No
thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 17/04/2024 19:31:18 2538702 Link 0 |
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Only a few years before.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1936 - 17/04/2024 21:50:28 2538728 Link 0 |
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Yeah agree. There was a bad state of affairs a few years ago where club was supposed to be played around inter county but the qualifiers system meant that the county fixtures wouldn't be known until very short notice. That led to dismay and more structure being needed but honestly a lot of the issue was because of the qualifiers rather than there needing to be a split season. We either needed no qualifiers or a set club window but we didn't need to do both. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4329 - 18/04/2024 10:42:24 2538787 Link 0 |
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Still think the ideal solution is less intercounty games, spaced further apart, with club games in between. It worked for a hundred odd years until the greed set in. Greed from management for players time, greed from public and the administrators for more games etc etc.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13721 - 18/04/2024 11:02:01 2538795 Link 1 |
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Problem was it WASNT working any more. Hence the CPA, "Fix the Fixtures" etc leading to the split season and certainty of club fixtures, no Co manager calling off club fixtures, no playing vl County Qtr.Final Friday, Semi Final Monday and Final Satutday as happened in a couple of Counties. Burns will soon have the CPA back up and running after his throwaway comment the other day!! Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1936 - 18/04/2024 11:39:02 2538805 Link 1 |
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Have you been living under a rock regards the weather for the last 6 months?
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 18/04/2024 11:53:26 2538811 Link 0 |
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Ok but the analysis on why it wasn't working wasn't great. We'd a championship which was mainly knock out based and where scheduling was uncertain. If you'd a less knockout based competition with a more clearly defined schedule could it work. They have international breaks in soccer in spite of the enormous sums of money involved in club football. That the GAA then struggles to do something similar with our games in quite weak. Jar latch is saying every county would need to have the same competition. I don't think that's true. Set 16 weekends free for county club championship. 8 within the intercounty season (Mar to August or April to September or whatever), 8 after the season and get teams playing. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4329 - 18/04/2024 12:35:39 2538830 Link 0 |
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In the 1980s, as a student thumbing a lift home at the weekend, a well-to-do Unionist guy gave me a lift. We had an interesting debate. He was a decent guy, and quite convinced that the GAA was not really a sporting organisation, but was "the IRA at play". He reckoned that training sessions were just a front for weapons training etc. Instead of bleep tests, he was convinced that everyone was disassembling AK47s. He actually believed that, and we had a surreal discussion about his nonsensical beliefs. I asked him to come along unannounced to any of our club's training sessions, and gave him the days and times, but he never showed. Presumably he thought he'd have been shot.
points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 273 - 18/04/2024 12:41:09 2538831 Link 0 |
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Yeah I think it'd be best for club and county.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4329 - 18/04/2024 12:44:09 2538832 Link 0 |
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They got these 27 weeks to themselves for inter county and decided to fill it all up, rather than figuring out whether it made sense to do so.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4329 - 18/04/2024 12:50:57 2538835 Link 0 |