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Players Transferring Clubs To Win Medals

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "If that is the GAA ethos then how come I was once subbed for a player who wasn't from the parish? nor was he at training the week before. Also I noticed in my local club they sometimes have players in the seniors who aren't from the parish and they are played before people who are from here. For example the club had a player on the team who was from the neighbouring club who are a successful senior tier club. He moved to this intermediate/junior club to finish his career, instead of playing for his own clubs reserves. There are other examples of players who had a father from here but never grew up here themselves playing before locals.

It seems to be that the GAA like to virtue signal about their ethos but when it comes down to it they would sell out locals for a chance at success."
That depends on the club and county. It usually doesn't happen down here.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 27/01/2024 16:53:00    2522413

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Replying To Viking66:  "Which would be the closest club? I don't know exactly the area he is living in except that he's on the South side."
He may have moved after transfer went through. Basically he would only be moving to the biggest club in Dublin and everything else is irrelevant. If Raheny were the top dogs and could offer him the same benefits that's where he would have ended up. It's nothing to do with Geography.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 27/01/2024 17:02:58    2522418

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "He may have moved after transfer went through. Basically he would only be moving to the biggest club in Dublin and everything else is irrelevant. If Raheny were the top dogs and could offer him the same benefits that's where he would have ended up. It's nothing to do with Geography."
Lots of ifs, buts and maybes swirling around in your head there. And you probably don't even know the lad or where he is living and working.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 27/01/2024 17:30:59    2522427

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Replying To Viking66:  "Lots of ifs, buts and maybes swirling around in your head there. And you probably don't even know the lad or where he is living and working."
You have some weird problem with me due to another thread. Shane Walsh did not live beside Crokes when looking to transfer. That's a fact. And if you think he just happened to live beside the top dogs in Dublin and decided to transfer there you clearly have a laughably limited knowledge on dealings within the GAA.

Also just to be clear because you seem like a petty type of poster i don't knock Walsh or any player who takes what he can get as an amateur sportsperson at the top of their game. Because you seem to think i have an issue with the lad.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 27/01/2024 17:42:01    2522432

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Probably one of the most touchy subjects in GAA...but they've always been there. Think it was Jason Sherlock to transfered club to Na Fianna after breakthrough, Christy Ring transferring to the Glen from Cloyne, Eamonn Fennell about 12 years ago, Cathal Dunbar in Wexfoed. I remember Stoney Burke transfered to Cushinstown in Wexford from Kilkenny for a year just to play with Wexford, common in Galway for junior players to transfer to nearby senior teams, stopped a good bit lately but a lot of Salthil lads have transfered to Mellows etc good to see thats stopped by in large. Think the small number of senior and intermediate clubs in Kilkenny has stopped a lot of that as it helped keep junior at a very good standard. Maybe might have seen why in counties like Galway and Cork were junior players might be playing with clubs ranked down in the 50th ranked club as opposed to 26thish in Kilkenny.
I think in general the transferring from Junior to Senior has stopped by a load compared to what it was 25/30 years ago and that is great. Think transferring between senior clubs is at no higher level that it's always been just a few high profile ones the last year have brought it up....especially the very suspect reasons given. All for genuine reasons like a lad moving into a new area for work or family especially when it's across the country. I didn't agree with Shane Walsh one at all for the whole lateness and suspect reasons given, the week before championship started...he was named to start for his home club, think he went about it all wrong. Then you see Jack MaCaffery with a million all Ireland's, working as a doctor in Galway, training with Salthil and still plays for Clontarf in Dublin. Have to give huge credit to him

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 277 - 27/01/2024 17:51:11    2522439

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You have some weird problem with me due to another thread. Shane Walsh did not live beside Crokes when looking to transfer. That's a fact. And if you think he just happened to live beside the top dogs in Dublin and decided to transfer there you clearly have a laughably limited knowledge on dealings within the GAA.

Also just to be clear because you seem like a petty type of poster i don't knock Walsh or any player who takes what he can get as an amateur sportsperson at the top of their game. Because you seem to think i have an issue with the lad."
I don't have any issue with you. I can't remember having one in the past either. I was only wondering did you know where he lived because you seemed to have an issue with him transferring to Crokes. I do think it is entirely up to him where he lives, and if he happens to choose to rent or buy a place near one of Crokes complexes, on account of working or studying or whatever in Dublin and wanting to play for them while he's there, that's surely up to himself? Years ago lads like him played hurling and football for Dublin as well as for whichever club in Dublin.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 27/01/2024 18:02:18    2522443

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Replying To Viking66:  "I don't have any issue with you. I can't remember having one in the past either. I was only wondering did you know where he lived because you seemed to have an issue with him transferring to Crokes. I do think it is entirely up to him where he lives, and if he happens to choose to rent or buy a place near one of Crokes complexes, on account of working or studying or whatever in Dublin and wanting to play for them while he's there, that's surely up to himself? Years ago lads like him played hurling and football for Dublin as well as for whichever club in Dublin."
You clearly replied to me as if i didn't know anything on the topic. Where he lives or was living is what you were asking. Whether you care or not where he lives wasn't being discussed. The real issue is super clubs being able to poach players from the outside in. And having the resources to do it.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 27/01/2024 18:19:05    2522447

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You clearly replied to me as if i didn't know anything on the topic. Where he lives or was living is what you were asking. Whether you care or not where he lives wasn't being discussed. The real issue is super clubs being able to poach players from the outside in. And having the resources to do it."
The reason I asked you is because I don't know where he is living. And the real issue that you state at the end of your post is the point I'm disagreeing with you on to a certain extent. I don't think Walsh left Galway and moved to Dublin because the Crokes paid him to.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 27/01/2024 18:52:29    2522451

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Replying To Viking66:  "The reason I asked you is because I don't know where he is living. And the real issue that you state at the end of your post is the point I'm disagreeing with you on to a certain extent. I don't think Walsh left Galway and moved to Dublin because the Crokes paid him to."
He was already living in Dublin. He didn't move there because of the transfer to Crokes. The point is he didn't live beside Crokes and didn't move there for any reason bar their level of success and the perks they offered him. I don't have any issue with him being rewarded as i said. But let's call a spade a spade.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 27/01/2024 19:05:09    2522454

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "He was already living in Dublin. He didn't move there because of the transfer to Crokes. The point is he didn't live beside Crokes and didn't move there for any reason bar their level of success and the perks they offered him. I don't have any issue with him being rewarded as i said. But let's call a spade a spade."
So you think he shopped around the clubs to see what the best offer was when he decided for whatever reason he didn't want to travel up and down the N4 any more? Or do you think Crokes got his number and rang him to make him an offer he couldn't refuse?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 27/01/2024 19:12:09    2522457

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Is Dublin the same as limerick where there is no club border around the city??if there is no boundary he could play with any club as far as I know in Dublin..a lot of clubs round the area brought players from all over the country.didn't mcgeeney and a few more Armagh boys play with na fianna if I'm right..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2378 - 27/01/2024 19:25:50    2522460

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Replying To skirge7:  "What if we specifically picked where he lived so he could join Kilmacud?"
Makes no difference in a Dublin club context. No parish rule here.

Walsh could've moved to Balbriggan and played for Crokes if he wanted.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13779 - 28/01/2024 08:33:35    2522558

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Replying To Spinx:  "We don't have too many internal transfers in Longford. The main transfer operators in the county in past years was Longford Slashers who used to poach a lot of the more talented players from nearby Young Grattans. In recent years they brought in Peter Foy from Cashel but then he jumped ship to a neighbouring county and another club fond of the transfer system, St. Lomans. Other than that there's a lad in the county who I think is on his 4th Longford club and 6th in total!"
if one of them was a Leitrim club i know who you are on about. Never seen him play but apparently was very good and got a run out in the league for Leitrim about 6 years ago... never heard of him since.

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 565 - 29/02/2024 14:01:46    2528936

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Is Dublin the same as limerick where there is no club border around the city??if there is no boundary he could play with any club as far as I know in Dublin..a lot of clubs round the area brought players from all over the country.didn't mcgeeney and a few more Armagh boys play with na fianna if I'm right.."
There is no parish rule in Dublin City and County. If a player from a club in different county wishes to transfer in its no problem. There are restrictions about residence, the target club/players grade but in this case its no problem who he plays for.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4940 - 03/03/2024 17:35:22    2529478

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Moycullen in Galway have Clarke(Mayo), Gallagher(Antrim),Maloney(Offaly) and now some buck from Cavan

CorkLiamMcCarthy24 (Cork) - Posts: 41 - 17/08/2024 16:01:00    2565588

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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "Moycullen in Galway have Clarke(Mayo), Gallagher(Antrim),Maloney(Offaly) and now some buck from Cavan"
I seen that

Sligojoe (Mayo) - Posts: 13 - 28/08/2024 11:27:22    2567329

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It shouldn't happen unless of the parent rule or the person is living in the parish/club area. And the rule should include if you transfer you cannot transfer again ever.

eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 28/08/2024 11:45:40    2567338

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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "Moycullen in Galway have Clarke(Mayo), Gallagher(Antrim),Maloney(Offaly) and now some buck from Cavan"
Who's the buck from Cavan? If its Niall Walsh then he has with Moycullen for the last 5 years

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2824 - 28/08/2024 12:12:14    2567351

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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "It shouldn't happen unless of the parent rule or the person is living in the parish/club area. And the rule should include if you transfer you cannot transfer again ever."
If you transfer once, you couldn't ever transfer again???

A friend of mine grew up playing hurling here in Wexford. He was no great shakes (and he'd tell you that himself), playing mainly at Junior or Junior 'B' level when he hit the adult grades.

After college, his work sent him to Monaghan for a few years. He transferred and hurled with a club there.

He was then sent to Kerry for another couple of years. He transferred again, and played there.

Eventually he got a different job closer to home, and transferred back to a club in the town where he ended up living here (but not his "home" club).

Under your way, once he transferred to Monaghan, that would have been it? And if he's still wanted to play hurling, he'd have had to travel to Monaghan for training and matches, even when living in Kerry or back here in Wexford?

This is just one example, but there'd be many more like him.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 28/08/2024 13:09:05    2567365

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I have always said a club that's able to field 3 adult teams because of their high numbers should not be allowed transfer players in…. this obviously would mostly apply to Dublin clubs… Kilmacud for example must have 5/6 adult teams yet are allowed transfer in the likes of Walsh from Galway… what sort of message does this send out to club players who have come up through the ranks…they are doing the same in the ladies section and can field 3/4 adult teams… Is winning that important to them..? Time the GAA woke up and tackled this issue but I doubt they have the b…s to do this….!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3027 - 28/08/2024 13:18:15    2567368

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