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Cad a ceapann daoine faoi an beart seo?

Cork County Board to decide tonight whether to change the name of PUC to Supervalu.

Not going down well according to what I've been listening to on RnaG.

Be ructions this evening i imagine. Opponents are completely right to oppose this in my view.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 16/01/2024 12:44:54    2520438

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Cad a ceapann daoine faoi an beart seo?

Cork County Board to decide tonight whether to change the name of PUC to Supervalu.

Not going down well according to what I've been listening to on RnaG.

Be ructions this evening i imagine. Opponents are completely right to oppose this in my view."
Will the opponents pay off the debt?
Breffni Park has had sponsor's name attached to it for years.
Most if not all competitions, Club and County have sponsor names stuck on them.
The sky hasn't fallen in.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1952 - 16/01/2024 12:51:35    2520439

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Will the opponents pay off the debt?
Breffni Park has had sponsor's name attached to it for years.
Most if not all competitions, Club and County have sponsor names stuck on them.
The sky hasn't fallen in."
But the key to what you've just said there is how it's still called Breffni Park. It's just that its full title happens to have a sponsor's name attached first.

Significant difference in Cork is that the proposal is just to call it "SuperValu Páirc", rather than "SuperValu Páirc Uí Chaoimh".

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 16/01/2024 13:31:09    2520451

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Will the opponents pay off the debt?
Breffni Park has had sponsor's name attached to it for years.
Most if not all competitions, Club and County have sponsor names stuck on them.
The sky hasn't fallen in."
Only reason being that people still call them out on stuff.

Be insult to the history of GAA in Cork, and indeed elsewhere if they accept this.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 16/01/2024 13:34:29    2520452

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Only reason being that people still call them out on stuff.

Be insult to the history of GAA in Cork, and indeed elsewhere if they accept this."
But was only named Páirc Uí Chaoimh when opened in 1976?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1900 - 16/01/2024 13:59:36    2520462

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Kerry Gold Pairc Ui Chaoimh would have a better ring to it than SuperValu PUC

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3141 - 16/01/2024 14:04:18    2520464

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Cad a ceapann daoine faoi an beart seo?

Cork County Board to decide tonight whether to change the name of PUC to Supervalu.

Not going down well according to what I've been listening to on RnaG.

Be ructions this evening i imagine. Opponents are completely right to oppose this in my view."
Still Franks Folly as far as I'm concerned Barney;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13866 - 16/01/2024 14:16:16    2520472

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Replying To Jack L:  "Kerry Gold Pairc Ui Chaoimh would have a better ring to it than SuperValu PUC"
:-D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13866 - 16/01/2024 14:17:37    2520473

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Only reason being that people still call them out on stuff.

Be insult to the history of GAA in Cork, and indeed elsewhere if they accept this."
The day the Cork County Board decided to go off and rebuild PUC without the necessary funds in place was the day they insulted their own history. Just goes to show the respect they have for the organisation down there.... I'm looking forward to the day when every last penny is repaid. Same goes for Mayo and any other county being bailed out by Croke Park. Zero respect for the rest of the counties who keep their houses in order.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1024 - 16/01/2024 14:23:42    2520477

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Replying To zinny:  "But was only named Páirc Uí Chaoimh when opened in 1976?"
They could hardly have named it after him before that...

You do know it is named for?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 16/01/2024 14:33:41    2520481

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"Supervalu Pairc" sounds so tacky. It's like a name you would put on an English League 2 Soccer Stadium. Could they not have went for "Supervalu Pairc Ui Chaoimh" similar to "FBD Semple Stadium", "TUS Gaelic Grounds" , "Chadwicks Wexford Park" or "Kingspan Breffini Park".

Regardless I think most people in Cork (where I worked for an number of years) and certainly in Limerick simply refer to it as "Down the Pairc" and will likely continue to.

It's funny in the same week that Musgrave Park has become "Virgin Media Park", that Musgraves (the owners of Supervalu) see fit to pull this rabbit out of the hat.

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 94 - 16/01/2024 15:03:14    2520487

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "They could hardly have named it after him before that...

You do know it is named for?"
It was called the Athletic Grounds till it was redeveloped mid 70s and named after Pádraig Ó Caoimh who was Árd Rúnai CLCG from around 1930 till he died in the 60s I believe.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1952 - 16/01/2024 15:03:33    2520488

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Replying To Square_B:  "The day the Cork County Board decided to go off and rebuild PUC without the necessary funds in place was the day they insulted their own history. Just goes to show the respect they have for the organisation down there.... I'm looking forward to the day when every last penny is repaid. Same goes for Mayo and any other county being bailed out by Croke Park. Zero respect for the rest of the counties who keep their houses in order."
That may well be but they now have one of the best GAA grounds in the country for their supporters and it is a stadium to be proud of. The naming is a tad unfortunate though and the location is a nightmare to get in an out of. Many neutrals will still opt for Thurles or Limerick where there is inferior (in Limericks case at least) but similar sized venues as they will spend far less time in their cars or walking.

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 16/01/2024 15:28:11    2520495

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "It was called the Athletic Grounds till it was redeveloped mid 70s and named after Pádraig Ó Caoimh who was Árd Rúnai CLCG from around 1930 till he died in the 60s I believe."
Correct. People in Cork just call it 'the Park' - I suspect that it isn't actually 'the pairc' as 'the park' predated Pairc Ui Chaoimh. That whole area was once a huge park before Fords built their factory in 1917. The park was constructed on slob dredged from the river and palced behind the 'New Wall.' This formed one deep and self-scouring/dredging channel so as large vessels couldgo up to the city quays. The New Wall still forms the boundary of the river, if you ever wonder why there appears to be a stone/concrete bank all the way down there. If you look down the river from Pairc Ui Chaoimh, the modern road runs through the old tree lined promenade, which once extended up to the city. Look up the river along bank and you'll see two parallell straight lines of trees among which cars are parked for matches. Again, that's the old promenade which was cut off by the Ford factory.

That's why one of the approaches to the stadium is on 'Centre Park Road' - a road that ran right through the centre of the old park's racecourse. The GAA had a field called the Athletic Grounds on the Park, and that was developed into Pairc Ui Chaoimh in the 1970s.

The New Wall created the river channel in the early 1800s. The grandiose and beautiful park, complete with bandstands, promendade, racecourse etc, followed in the later 1800s. The showgrounds, from around then too, I think. The industrial zone ate up the park in the twentieth century. Pairc Ui Chaoim appeared in the 1970s. It, and the showgrounds were demolished to create the new stadium a few years ago, and now the city council are building a new park around it.

So the area has always changed. Change is the nature of life. I do think they could have contacted the O Cuiv family, which they reportedly didn't, though. And I'd hope that they can put a monument to the man outside the ground, or keep his name attached.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 16/01/2024 15:34:18    2520497

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It's still Lansdowne Rd.

It's still the Point Theatre.

It'll still be Páirc Uí Chaoimh.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13779 - 16/01/2024 15:46:53    2520501

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Replying To MesAmis:  "It's still Lansdowne Rd.

It's still the Point Theatre.

It'll still be Páirc Uí Chaoimh."
Just discovered an t-uasal Uí Chaoimh was born in Roscommon,( Ballinagare).
Father was a Polis man.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1952 - 16/01/2024 16:04:53    2520503

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I laughed when I read that including Páirc in the new name was presented as a compromise to those concerned about losing the stadium identity. If that was a compromise, what was the starting position-just calling it Supervalu?

It's also laughable since Páirc is the most generic, identityless word you can have for a GAA stadium. It's in the name of nearly every ground in the country (whether the Irish name is in common use or not).

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1662 - 16/01/2024 16:12:49    2520505

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Cork County board needs money and its better getting it from sponership than going after its members, call it what they like , the real members will always call it what they like.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 448 - 16/01/2024 16:28:18    2520511

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "Cork County board needs money and its better getting it from sponership than going after its members, call it what they like , the real members will always call it what they like."
Just name it as SuperValu Páirc Uí Chaoimh.
The name is kept, Cork CB get their money, SuperValu get their publicity.....

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1952 - 16/01/2024 17:42:22    2520520

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Just name it as SuperValu Páirc Uí Chaoimh.
The name is kept, Cork CB get their money, SuperValu get their publicity....."
Unfortunately most commentators cannot pronounce Páirc Uí Chaoimh correctly, often calling it, Porky Keev. Supervalu might change it to Porky Kiev.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 16/01/2024 17:53:39    2520524

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