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Great Hurling Rivalries - Cork Versus Limerick

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"Great rivalries don't have to be built on hatred. They're built on respect, on a respect for excellence."
Michael William Krzyzewski, nicknamed "Coach K," a former American former college basketball coach.

When a new hurling season commences there is one game above all others the Limerick fans are hoping to see and that is clash between the two Munster Giants, Cork and Limerick. Attending these battles, either at Páirc na nGael or at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, the hairs on the backs of the necks of the fans rise as a cacophony of sound envelops all four sides of the field of play.

And, when these two fierce rivals step out of the tunnel to take to the pitch, the PA system should be blasting out This Is The One by The Stone Roses because make no mistake about it, Limerick versus Cork is a game all of Ireland watches.

Rivalries are the lifeblood of sport such as boxing's gladiators Ali-Frazier, tennis pin-ups Borg-McEnroe, Formula 1 Kings Prost-Senna, middle distance running masters Coe-Ovett, golf legends Palmer-Nicklaus and darts' big hitters Taylor-van Barneveld. They transcend sport and become theatre, auditoriums for gladiatorial battles.
Separated by 62 miles across the N20 the greatest rivalry in Irish hurling is unquestionably Cork against Limerick. Ask any fan from either camp who they think have been their club's biggest rivals and nearly every one of them will say Cork or Limerick. Yes, there are also big games against Clare, Dublin, Galway, Kilkenny and Tipperary but these are for bragging rights as to which team is considered the greatest at a certain period in time, a golden era for the county, whereas the Cork versus Limerick rivalry is of much greater historical significance.

There is a very specific, unique brand of rivalry that exists between the Munster Twins. Sportswriters and the fans are always wondering who the Alpha twin is.

Every game between these two towering giants of the sport is a date with history. Cork were the team to fear in the 1890s, 1920s, 1940s, 1950s whereas Limerick were the dominant side in the land in the 1930s and have been untouchable in the 2020s. It is a rivalry like no other and is usually a bitter encounter. Records do not mean anything in rivalry games.

Cork were Munster Champions in 2014, 2017 and 2018 but in 2016 a shift in the power base in the province was about to erupt like a volcano when John Kiely was appointed the new manager of Limerick on 14 September 2016. Upon his appointment, Cork had not won the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, their 30th, since 2005, whilst Limerick had not held aloft the Liam MacCarthy Cup in 43 years, the 1-21 to 1-14 victory over Kilkenny in 1973. But the fortunes of Limerick were about to change under Kiely, a Headmaster, and change in a dramatic, seismic way.

In 2018, Kiely guided The Treaty to All-Ireland glory following a 3-16 to 2-18 win against Galway in the final. The following year, 2019, Limerick won the Munster Senior Hurling Championship for the first time since 2013 and went on to claim it again in 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023. In 2019, The Treaty also won their first National Hurling League Championship since season 1996-97 and won it again in 2019-20 and 2022-23. The volcano erupted again in 2020 when Limerick were crowned All-Ireland Champions once more and since then no team has been able to put Limerick's fire out as they scorched all adversaries before them to claim three more Liam MacCarthy Cups in 2021, 2022 and 2023.

LIMERICK v CORK
"Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories."
Sun Tzu, a Chinese military general, strategist, philosopher and writer

Luimneach and Corcaigh first met on 5 November 1893, in the 1893 Munster Senior Hurling Championship final, the seventh staging of the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship. The Rebel County were the defending Provincial and All-Ireland Champions and wiped the floor with the men from The Treaty, an embarrassing 4-08 to 0-00 totally one-sided affair at Charleville Sportsfield, County Cork. Cork went on to become the first team to successfully defend the All-Ireland crown, defeating Kilkenny in the 1893 final by a mammoth 24 points, a score line of 6-08 to 0-02. It was the first time Cork and Kilkenny had faced one another in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship.

It wasn't until 29 July 2018, that the sides met at Croke Park for the first time in the All-Ireland Championship. Limerick ran out 3-32 to 2-31 victors in their semi-final encounter. On 22 August 2021, the rivals met for the first time in an All-Ireland final with Limerick putting in an explosive performance to blow away their opponents with a 3-32 1-22 win to give The Treaty back-to-back Liam MacCarthy Cup victories for the first time in the county's history. The result remains the highest winning score ever achieved in an All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship final.

The two Munster giants last met on 28 May 2023, a 3-25 to 1-30 victory for the men in green and white at the Gaelic Grounds in Round 5 of the Munster Championship.

Record Scores
Biggest win
For Cork (26 pts): Cork 7-12 - 1-4 Limerick. Munster Senior Hurling Championship quarter-final, Fraher Field (Páirc Uí Fhearachair) - 10 February 1907
For Limerick (16pts): Limerick 3-18 - 1-8 Cork, Munster Senior Hurling Championship quarter-final, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, Cork - 26 May 1996
Limerick 3-32 - 1-22 Cork, All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship final, Croke Park - 22 August 2021
Highest Aggregate Score (78 points)
Limerick 3-32 - 2-31 Cork, All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship semi-final, Croke Park - 29 July 2018

Player Records
Cork's Patrick Horgan holds the record for the most number of points scored in the fixture, 95 (5-80) from 2010-23. Limerick's Aaron Gillane is the second highest points scorer when the two teams have met, 50 (2-44) from 2018-23. Two cork men occupy third and fourth places, John Fenton 44 (3-35) and Christy Ring 36 (5-21) whilst Limerick's Eamonn Cregan occupies the fifth slot scoring 34 points (5-19) from 1966-83.

The Legendary Christy Ring of Cork holds the record for the most number of appearances in the fixture with 11. Patrick Horgan trails him by one game sitting on 10 appearances for The Rebel County.

Did You Know That?
Cork was established c.1200, the name means "swamp" or "marsh."

Chalkie23 (Down) - Posts: 17 - 06/01/2024 18:41:53    2518679

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Replying To Chalkie23:  ""Great rivalries don't have to be built on hatred. They're built on respect, on a respect for excellence."
Michael William Krzyzewski, nicknamed "Coach K," a former American former college basketball coach.

When a new hurling season commences there is one game above all others the Limerick fans are hoping to see and that is clash between the two Munster Giants, Cork and Limerick. Attending these battles, either at Páirc na nGael or at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, the hairs on the backs of the necks of the fans rise as a cacophony of sound envelops all four sides of the field of play.

And, when these two fierce rivals step out of the tunnel to take to the pitch, the PA system should be blasting out This Is The One by The Stone Roses because make no mistake about it, Limerick versus Cork is a game all of Ireland watches.

Rivalries are the lifeblood of sport such as boxing's gladiators Ali-Frazier, tennis pin-ups Borg-McEnroe, Formula 1 Kings Prost-Senna, middle distance running masters Coe-Ovett, golf legends Palmer-Nicklaus and darts' big hitters Taylor-van Barneveld. They transcend sport and become theatre, auditoriums for gladiatorial battles.
Separated by 62 miles across the N20 the greatest rivalry in Irish hurling is unquestionably Cork against Limerick. Ask any fan from either camp who they think have been their club's biggest rivals and nearly every one of them will say Cork or Limerick. Yes, there are also big games against Clare, Dublin, Galway, Kilkenny and Tipperary but these are for bragging rights as to which team is considered the greatest at a certain period in time, a golden era for the county, whereas the Cork versus Limerick rivalry is of much greater historical significance.

There is a very specific, unique brand of rivalry that exists between the Munster Twins. Sportswriters and the fans are always wondering who the Alpha twin is.

Every game between these two towering giants of the sport is a date with history. Cork were the team to fear in the 1890s, 1920s, 1940s, 1950s whereas Limerick were the dominant side in the land in the 1930s and have been untouchable in the 2020s. It is a rivalry like no other and is usually a bitter encounter. Records do not mean anything in rivalry games.

Cork were Munster Champions in 2014, 2017 and 2018 but in 2016 a shift in the power base in the province was about to erupt like a volcano when John Kiely was appointed the new manager of Limerick on 14 September 2016. Upon his appointment, Cork had not won the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, their 30th, since 2005, whilst Limerick had not held aloft the Liam MacCarthy Cup in 43 years, the 1-21 to 1-14 victory over Kilkenny in 1973. But the fortunes of Limerick were about to change under Kiely, a Headmaster, and change in a dramatic, seismic way.

In 2018, Kiely guided The Treaty to All-Ireland glory following a 3-16 to 2-18 win against Galway in the final. The following year, 2019, Limerick won the Munster Senior Hurling Championship for the first time since 2013 and went on to claim it again in 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023. In 2019, The Treaty also won their first National Hurling League Championship since season 1996-97 and won it again in 2019-20 and 2022-23. The volcano erupted again in 2020 when Limerick were crowned All-Ireland Champions once more and since then no team has been able to put Limerick's fire out as they scorched all adversaries before them to claim three more Liam MacCarthy Cups in 2021, 2022 and 2023.

LIMERICK v CORK
"Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories."
Sun Tzu, a Chinese military general, strategist, philosopher and writer

Luimneach and Corcaigh first met on 5 November 1893, in the 1893 Munster Senior Hurling Championship final, the seventh staging of the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship. The Rebel County were the defending Provincial and All-Ireland Champions and wiped the floor with the men from The Treaty, an embarrassing 4-08 to 0-00 totally one-sided affair at Charleville Sportsfield, County Cork. Cork went on to become the first team to successfully defend the All-Ireland crown, defeating Kilkenny in the 1893 final by a mammoth 24 points, a score line of 6-08 to 0-02. It was the first time Cork and Kilkenny had faced one another in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship.

It wasn't until 29 July 2018, that the sides met at Croke Park for the first time in the All-Ireland Championship. Limerick ran out 3-32 to 2-31 victors in their semi-final encounter. On 22 August 2021, the rivals met for the first time in an All-Ireland final with Limerick putting in an explosive performance to blow away their opponents with a 3-32 1-22 win to give The Treaty back-to-back Liam MacCarthy Cup victories for the first time in the county's history. The result remains the highest winning score ever achieved in an All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship final.

The two Munster giants last met on 28 May 2023, a 3-25 to 1-30 victory for the men in green and white at the Gaelic Grounds in Round 5 of the Munster Championship.

Record Scores
Biggest win
For Cork (26 pts): Cork 7-12 - 1-4 Limerick. Munster Senior Hurling Championship quarter-final, Fraher Field (Páirc Uí Fhearachair) - 10 February 1907
For Limerick (16pts): Limerick 3-18 - 1-8 Cork, Munster Senior Hurling Championship quarter-final, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, Cork - 26 May 1996
Limerick 3-32 - 1-22 Cork, All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship final, Croke Park - 22 August 2021
Highest Aggregate Score (78 points)
Limerick 3-32 - 2-31 Cork, All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship semi-final, Croke Park - 29 July 2018

Player Records
Cork's Patrick Horgan holds the record for the most number of points scored in the fixture, 95 (5-80) from 2010-23. Limerick's Aaron Gillane is the second highest points scorer when the two teams have met, 50 (2-44) from 2018-23. Two cork men occupy third and fourth places, John Fenton 44 (3-35) and Christy Ring 36 (5-21) whilst Limerick's Eamonn Cregan occupies the fifth slot scoring 34 points (5-19) from 1966-83.

The Legendary Christy Ring of Cork holds the record for the most number of appearances in the fixture with 11. Patrick Horgan trails him by one game sitting on 10 appearances for The Rebel County.

Did You Know That?
Cork was established c.1200, the name means "swamp" or "marsh.""
Not from Munster myself but all the Cork hurling people I know see Tipp as their rivals, and Limerick people I know see Tipp or Clare as their rivals, although maybe that might be different in Mitchelstown or Kilmallock.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13867 - 06/01/2024 19:31:42    2518689

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not from Munster myself but all the Cork hurling people I know see Tipp as their rivals, and Limerick people I know see Tipp or Clare as their rivals, although maybe that might be different in Mitchelstown or Kilmallock."
Agree with that.

It's a fantastic rivalry but cork have more all Ireland's than you can shake a stick at. They've always been there.

Limerick are enjoying a remarkable period of success, but there was also a time when they couldn't win a match.

I think the Limerick Clare rivalry is great at the moment. They're bringing the very best out in Clare.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3143 - 06/01/2024 20:40:57    2518703

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not from Munster myself but all the Cork hurling people I know see Tipp as their rivals, and Limerick people I know see Tipp or Clare as their rivals, although maybe that might be different in Mitchelstown or Kilmallock."
I think the starting post is a great read but agree that Cork v Tipp is the main rivalry from both counties point of view.
Their high level of all Ireland wins over the years means that they saw one another as equals, looking down on the rest of us in Munster.

I know plenty of people from both Cork and Tipp who are struggling to make sense of how dominant we are at the moment, it flies completely against their ingrained sense of superiority.. Helps makes these days even more enjoyable.

Our success over the last few years has been unbelievable, because to be honest I would have been happy with one all Ireland but this run is beyond comprehension...

Clare are definitely our biggest rivals and their 3 all Irelands while we were losing finals gave them great bragging rights for years..makes the last 2 munster finals on the way to the all Ireland even better.

I always felt that getting over the line once, would open the flood gates for us meaning that we'd be contenders on a more regular basis, challenging frequently and occasionally winning but to be going for 5 in a row.. Remarkable.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1103 - 06/01/2024 23:51:48    2518736

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not from Munster myself but all the Cork hurling people I know see Tipp as their rivals, and Limerick people I know see Tipp or Clare as their rivals, although maybe that might be different in Mitchelstown or Kilmallock."
Thank you for taking the time to comment.

Chalkie23 (Down) - Posts: 17 - 07/01/2024 08:20:00    2518744

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Replying To Chalkie23:  "Thank you for taking the time to comment."
You are welcome. If its any good to you I can see a good Cork/Limerick rivalry developing in the near future as I think Cork are best placed to put Limerick under pressure over the coming years!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13867 - 07/01/2024 09:27:25    2518756

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Replying To Viking66:  "You are welcome. If its any good to you I can see a good Cork/Limerick rivalry developing in the near future as I think Cork are best placed to put Limerick under pressure over the coming years!"
Clare will also be in the shark tank which is the Munster Championship with every side capable of beating the other on their day. Today Kiely's team needs to start the wheels rolling for The Drive For Five as momentum is the key to making sure Liam beds down on the banks of The River Shannon for the fifth winter in succession.

Chalkie23 (Down) - Posts: 17 - 07/01/2024 11:05:18    2518778

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In Limerick city Clare would definitely be seen as the main rival but other parts of the county would have Tipp or Cork as the main rival .
Limerick had some great games against cork over the years including last years group match in Gaelic grounds but games like the 1980 league final in Pairc yo chaoimh or that years Munster final in thurles were memorable days from my youth . I think Cork are Limerick's biggest threat this year .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 717 - 07/01/2024 11:23:04    2518781

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Replying To OpenStand:  "In Limerick city Clare would definitely be seen as the main rival but other parts of the county would have Tipp or Cork as the main rival .
Limerick had some great games against cork over the years including last years group match in Gaelic grounds but games like the 1980 league final in Pairc yo chaoimh or that years Munster final in thurles were memorable days from my youth . I think Cork are Limerick's biggest threat this year ."
Thank you.

Chalkie23 (Down) - Posts: 17 - 07/01/2024 12:05:54    2518786

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Joke match called off half hour before start..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2378 - 07/01/2024 14:50:59    2518811

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Joke match called off half hour before start.."
That's poor form

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13867 - 07/01/2024 15:21:15    2518814

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's poor form"
Yes, the GAA authorities are generally quite poor to act when weather issues are imminent and likely to threaten the playing of a game.

God forbid that a fan is ever injured or worse on the way to a game that should have been cancelled in a timely manner. A lawsuit is what it might take to get the GAA to act in a proper manner.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2095 - 07/01/2024 15:44:58    2518820

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https://www.hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/112605?Latest=1#Latest

Chalkie23 (Down) - Posts: 17 - 07/01/2024 21:16:54    2518916

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Replying To Chalkie23:  "Thank you."
So many Titanic battles, some close calls, and Legendary players on both sides.

Chalkie23 (Down) - Posts: 17 - 08/01/2024 09:36:01    2518955

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Replying To skillet:  "I think the starting post is a great read but agree that Cork v Tipp is the main rivalry from both counties point of view.
Their high level of all Ireland wins over the years means that they saw one another as equals, looking down on the rest of us in Munster.

I know plenty of people from both Cork and Tipp who are struggling to make sense of how dominant we are at the moment, it flies completely against their ingrained sense of superiority.. Helps makes these days even more enjoyable.

Our success over the last few years has been unbelievable, because to be honest I would have been happy with one all Ireland but this run is beyond comprehension...

Clare are definitely our biggest rivals and their 3 all Irelands while we were losing finals gave them great bragging rights for years..makes the last 2 munster finals on the way to the all Ireland even better.

I always felt that getting over the line once, would open the flood gates for us meaning that we'd be contenders on a more regular basis, challenging frequently and occasionally winning but to be going for 5 in a row.. Remarkable."
Agree, this is a remarkable period of success. I think regardless of what happens this year this will go down as the most remarkable period of success of any team in the history of the GAA. There are so many things that contribute to the success of a county team but tradition is one of the main factors. When you consider that Limerick won 1 All Ireland from 1940 to 2018 (1 in 78 years) and have now won 5 in 6 years this defies all logic. Dublin's 6 in a row and Kerry's 4 in a row were in Counties that have alot of previous success and Cork and Kilkenny's hurling 4 in a rows were 2 of the Big 3 in hurling counties.

journeyman (Limerick) - Posts: 141 - 08/01/2024 11:35:28    2518986

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Replying To Chalkie23:  ""Great rivalries don't have to be built on hatred. They're built on respect, on a respect for excellence."
Michael William Krzyzewski, nicknamed "Coach K," a former American former college basketball coach.

When a new hurling season commences there is one game above all others the Limerick fans are hoping to see and that is clash between the two Munster Giants, Cork and Limerick. Attending these battles, either at Páirc na nGael or at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, the hairs on the backs of the necks of the fans rise as a cacophony of sound envelops all four sides of the field of play.

And, when these two fierce rivals step out of the tunnel to take to the pitch, the PA system should be blasting out This Is The One by The Stone Roses because make no mistake about it, Limerick versus Cork is a game all of Ireland watches.

Rivalries are the lifeblood of sport such as boxing's gladiators Ali-Frazier, tennis pin-ups Borg-McEnroe, Formula 1 Kings Prost-Senna, middle distance running masters Coe-Ovett, golf legends Palmer-Nicklaus and darts' big hitters Taylor-van Barneveld. They transcend sport and become theatre, auditoriums for gladiatorial battles.
Separated by 62 miles across the N20 the greatest rivalry in Irish hurling is unquestionably Cork against Limerick. Ask any fan from either camp who they think have been their club's biggest rivals and nearly every one of them will say Cork or Limerick. Yes, there are also big games against Clare, Dublin, Galway, Kilkenny and Tipperary but these are for bragging rights as to which team is considered the greatest at a certain period in time, a golden era for the county, whereas the Cork versus Limerick rivalry is of much greater historical significance.

There is a very specific, unique brand of rivalry that exists between the Munster Twins. Sportswriters and the fans are always wondering who the Alpha twin is.

Every game between these two towering giants of the sport is a date with history. Cork were the team to fear in the 1890s, 1920s, 1940s, 1950s whereas Limerick were the dominant side in the land in the 1930s and have been untouchable in the 2020s. It is a rivalry like no other and is usually a bitter encounter. Records do not mean anything in rivalry games.

Cork were Munster Champions in 2014, 2017 and 2018 but in 2016 a shift in the power base in the province was about to erupt like a volcano when John Kiely was appointed the new manager of Limerick on 14 September 2016. Upon his appointment, Cork had not won the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, their 30th, since 2005, whilst Limerick had not held aloft the Liam MacCarthy Cup in 43 years, the 1-21 to 1-14 victory over Kilkenny in 1973. But the fortunes of Limerick were about to change under Kiely, a Headmaster, and change in a dramatic, seismic way.

In 2018, Kiely guided The Treaty to All-Ireland glory following a 3-16 to 2-18 win against Galway in the final. The following year, 2019, Limerick won the Munster Senior Hurling Championship for the first time since 2013 and went on to claim it again in 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023. In 2019, The Treaty also won their first National Hurling League Championship since season 1996-97 and won it again in 2019-20 and 2022-23. The volcano erupted again in 2020 when Limerick were crowned All-Ireland Champions once more and since then no team has been able to put Limerick's fire out as they scorched all adversaries before them to claim three more Liam MacCarthy Cups in 2021, 2022 and 2023.

LIMERICK v CORK
"Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories."
Sun Tzu, a Chinese military general, strategist, philosopher and writer

Luimneach and Corcaigh first met on 5 November 1893, in the 1893 Munster Senior Hurling Championship final, the seventh staging of the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship. The Rebel County were the defending Provincial and All-Ireland Champions and wiped the floor with the men from The Treaty, an embarrassing 4-08 to 0-00 totally one-sided affair at Charleville Sportsfield, County Cork. Cork went on to become the first team to successfully defend the All-Ireland crown, defeating Kilkenny in the 1893 final by a mammoth 24 points, a score line of 6-08 to 0-02. It was the first time Cork and Kilkenny had faced one another in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship.

It wasn't until 29 July 2018, that the sides met at Croke Park for the first time in the All-Ireland Championship. Limerick ran out 3-32 to 2-31 victors in their semi-final encounter. On 22 August 2021, the rivals met for the first time in an All-Ireland final with Limerick putting in an explosive performance to blow away their opponents with a 3-32 1-22 win to give The Treaty back-to-back Liam MacCarthy Cup victories for the first time in the county's history. The result remains the highest winning score ever achieved in an All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship final.

The two Munster giants last met on 28 May 2023, a 3-25 to 1-30 victory for the men in green and white at the Gaelic Grounds in Round 5 of the Munster Championship.

Record Scores
Biggest win
For Cork (26 pts): Cork 7-12 - 1-4 Limerick. Munster Senior Hurling Championship quarter-final, Fraher Field (Páirc Uí Fhearachair) - 10 February 1907
For Limerick (16pts): Limerick 3-18 - 1-8 Cork, Munster Senior Hurling Championship quarter-final, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, Cork - 26 May 1996
Limerick 3-32 - 1-22 Cork, All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship final, Croke Park - 22 August 2021
Highest Aggregate Score (78 points)
Limerick 3-32 - 2-31 Cork, All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship semi-final, Croke Park - 29 July 2018

Player Records
Cork's Patrick Horgan holds the record for the most number of points scored in the fixture, 95 (5-80) from 2010-23. Limerick's Aaron Gillane is the second highest points scorer when the two teams have met, 50 (2-44) from 2018-23. Two cork men occupy third and fourth places, John Fenton 44 (3-35) and Christy Ring 36 (5-21) whilst Limerick's Eamonn Cregan occupies the fifth slot scoring 34 points (5-19) from 1966-83.

The Legendary Christy Ring of Cork holds the record for the most number of appearances in the fixture with 11. Patrick Horgan trails him by one game sitting on 10 appearances for The Rebel County.

Did You Know That?
Cork was established c.1200, the name means "swamp" or "marsh.""
Sound post, Limerick have had the whip hand on us since 2018, that all Ireland semi-final was a crossroads match for both teams.

The Treaty Men went onto find the Promised Land that year & now draw richly from the wells of success.

While here in The Rebel County we wander in the wilderness, keeping a watchful eye for a messenger with glad tidings.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 121 - 08/01/2024 12:34:20    2519008

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Quite a feeble effort from both East Cork clubs today in the Junior and intermediate AI finals against Kilkenny opposition. I was expecting more fight and bottle from the Cork lads: rebels, blood and bandage and all that lark. Are those days gone? It seems so!

It doesn't say much for the other Munster counties at those levels either.

Well done to both Thomastown and Rosbercon in their fine victories!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2095 - 14/01/2024 02:01:46    2520078

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Great read Chackie. Thanks for that. My grandad was on the Limerick team of 1936 - 1940, winning two All Ireland's, and till he died in the 90's he always said there is no rivalry like Limerick & Cork.

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 14/01/2024 08:58:17    2520082

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Quite a feeble effort from both East Cork clubs today in the Junior and intermediate AI finals against Kilkenny opposition. I was expecting more fight and bottle from the Cork lads: rebels, blood and bandage and all that lark. Are those days gone? It seems so!

It doesn't say much for the other Munster counties at those levels either.

Well done to both Thomastown and Rosbercon in their fine victories!"
To me the physical conditioning of the Kilkenny players looked on a different level. Everyone of them looked like inter county players.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1030 - 14/01/2024 09:08:42    2520083

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Quite a feeble effort from both East Cork clubs today in the Junior and intermediate AI finals against Kilkenny opposition. I was expecting more fight and bottle from the Cork lads: rebels, blood and bandage and all that lark. Are those days gone? It seems so!

It doesn't say much for the other Munster counties at those levels either.

Well done to both Thomastown and Rosbercon in their fine victories!"
Fair play to both Kilkenny teams. They were a class above. I don't think fight and bottle had much to do with it. Both Cork teams were simply up against much better opposition.
Cork's teams were from the 3rd and 5th tier of their championships. Kilkenny's were from the 2nd and 3rd.
It was Kilkenny's 13th team against Cork's 25th in the intermediate final, and Kilkenny's 25th against Cork's 50th in the junior final (as St. Catherine's actually lost their junior county final).
It's not Kilkenny's issue, as they're a smaller county numbers wise, but it does lead to a disparity at All-Ireland club level at times.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 14/01/2024 09:45:14    2520086

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