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Mickey Harte Leaves Louth To Become The New Derry Manager

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Replying To PattyONeill: "This news overshadowed the 30th anniversary of the 1993 final today. I am not too bothered who is manager as they will be in the latter stages next year regardless. When Gallagher left McGuigan said they they were a group that can manage themselves." yeah that is called press script. He didnt actually believe that, it is something a player says in a transition period ffs. every team from under 12 to senior NEEDS a manager Whestofthewest (Clare) - Posts: 177 - 19/09/2023 13:21:10 2504808 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "Or working with a better team who can compete for titles." And its close to home. The man is not getting any younger and clearly relishes having a tilt at the Dubs and Kerry, which he will do with Derry. Louth for all their improvement, and hopefully it will continue, are a long way off challenging for Leinster or beyond, BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3102 - 19/09/2023 13:38:52 2504811 Link
Replying To Whestofthewest: "yeah that is called press script. He didnt actually believe that, it is something a player says in a transition period ffs. every team from under 12 to senior NEEDS a manager" Except maybe the Ireland ladies soccer team. Heard Joe Brolly on this morning coming out with his usual hateful and vile comments against Micky. Micky has more decorum and decency in his wee finger than Joe will ever have. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2149 - 19/09/2023 14:15:12 2504821 Link
Interesting to hear mickey will take over at Derry..in all fairness he has a great record..he really improved Tyrone and brought Louth on his time there..I wonder how he will feel if he comes up against his home county in ulster championship??he might be the little extra that Derry need.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2373 - 19/09/2023 14:46:44 2504828 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Except maybe the Ireland ladies soccer team. Heard Joe Brolly on this morning coming out with his usual hateful and vile comments against Micky. Micky has more decorum and decency in his wee finger than Joe will ever have." 100% BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3102 - 19/09/2023 14:49:42 2504829 Link
Replying To Whestofthewest: "From what ive heard over the years and from what is coming out of derry now is that mickey was never the most egar of managers for a big pay cheque. From what I hear it is a chance to be closer to family, bring a good team on and the most of what i am hearing is give the middle finger to tyrone board for pushing him out" Mickey Harte lives in Ballygawley and travel time to Owenbeg (Derry) and Readypenny (Louth) are almost identical., so don't think travel was an issue.Looking forward to the mind games between himself and Mc Guinness over the next couple of years. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 336 - 19/09/2023 15:21:26 2504831 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Except maybe the Ireland ladies soccer team. Heard Joe Brolly on this morning coming out with his usual hateful and vile comments against Micky. Micky has more decorum and decency in his wee finger than Joe will ever have." I stand to be corrected, but Brolly has never put his head above the parapet when it comes to inter-county management has he? He seems to have all the answers when it comes to teams failing, being particularly harsh towards Mayo over the years. Much easier to be the court jester doing podcasts and what not, than to put your neck on the line in a pressurised county setup. If Brolly did take over a county team, would he have the tactical acumen to be successful? Or would he be laughed out of the room for proposing naive, old-style man-on-man tactics? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9518 - 19/09/2023 15:41:11 2504833 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "I stand to be corrected, but Brolly has never put his head above the parapet when it comes to inter-county management has he? He seems to have all the answers when it comes to teams failing, being particularly harsh towards Mayo over the years. Much easier to be the court jester doing podcasts and what not, than to put your neck on the line in a pressurised county setup. If Brolly did take over a county team, would he have the tactical acumen to be successful? Or would he be laughed out of the room for proposing naive, old-style man-on-man tactics?" That's the beauty of shouting from the sidelines. One of the issues I see is that he takes most of his points to the extreme, when the reality is far more balanced. He calls out a lot of the 'spoofers' involved in bloated backroom teams, sports psychologists, s&c, stats people and says that they add no value. While I have no doubt there are plenty who aren't contributing much and there is overkill in some areas, the fact is a lot of these do help players. Sports psychologists for example, are used in all top-level sports. A huge amount of competitors from Johnny Sexton to Ronnie O'Sullivan will testify how they've massively helped their performance. If an intercounty team doesn't follow suit, they're already putting themselves at a disadvantage. Likewise for those overseeing nutrition and fitness. You simply have to do it or you're behind the curve already. I'd love to see a game where only the skills would matter and all teams play a positive style, but I'm not naive enough to think it will happen or that any team would be stupid enough to ignore everything else. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 19/09/2023 16:40:12 2504843 Link
It shouldn't be ok for a county board to secretly tap up another county's manager, negotiate a 3 year deal with him and then leave it to the manager to tell them he is leaving. Awful kick in the teeth for a county like Louth who were trying to be progressive and working to improve. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 577 - 19/09/2023 18:09:26 2504855 Link
Harte obviously believes he can win an All Ireland with Derry. If he does what a legacy he will leave.There is a lot of talk about how all this will spice up the Ulster Championship but I think Mickey is wise enough not to put too much emphasis on that with the new system in operation for the All Ireland.After all Gallagher and Meenagh have both won Ulsters with this squad and winning another title wouldn't add a lot to his reputation.Whether he is over estimating Derry or not remains to be seen. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1126 - 19/09/2023 18:39:49 2504859 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Except maybe the Ireland ladies soccer team. Heard Joe Brolly on this morning coming out with his usual hateful and vile comments against Micky. Micky has more decorum and decency in his wee finger than Joe will ever have." Sure what would you expect from a pig only a grunt Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2084 - 19/09/2023 19:03:46 2504860 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "I stand to be corrected, but Brolly has never put his head above the parapet when it comes to inter-county management has he? He seems to have all the answers when it comes to teams failing, being particularly harsh towards Mayo over the years. Much easier to be the court jester doing podcasts and what not, than to put your neck on the line in a pressurised county setup. If Brolly did take over a county team, would he have the tactical acumen to be successful? Or would he be laughed out of the room for proposing naive, old-style man-on-man tactics?" He once was involved with Antrim. How much so I don't know but that's thr only management I've heard of him being involved. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 19/09/2023 22:11:32 2504873 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "I stand to be corrected, but Brolly has never put his head above the parapet when it comes to inter-county management has he? He seems to have all the answers when it comes to teams failing, being particularly harsh towards Mayo over the years. Much easier to be the court jester doing podcasts and what not, than to put your neck on the line in a pressurised county setup. If Brolly did take over a county team, would he have the tactical acumen to be successful? Or would he be laughed out of the room for proposing naive, old-style man-on-man tactics?" You're spot on Lockjaw. His eulogising of the dubs is hard to listen to as well. gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 639 - 19/09/2023 22:27:01 2504875 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Except maybe the Ireland ladies soccer team. Heard Joe Brolly on this morning coming out with his usual hateful and vile comments against Micky. Micky has more decorum and decency in his wee finger than Joe will ever have." what programme was he on please gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 639 - 19/09/2023 22:28:26 2504876 Link
Replying To Wally: "Pushing him out? How long actually was he meant to get? He had went 13 years without an all Ireland and our system of play had barely changed. Meanwhile year after year we kept losing so many talented players due only to the fact that they were not 'Mickey players' Also let's not kid ourselves here. I am very close to the right people in both counties and the figures I am hearing are 6 figure. Mickey is putting together a retirement fund and fair play to him for that." Six figures?? Have the Saudis taken over Derry too? SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2499 - 19/09/2023 22:30:43 2504877 Link
seems louth are taking this badly "its a kick in the teeth" hope its not a case of glass houses, i dont know many people who havent left a job for a better one when offered Whestofthewest (Clare) - Posts: 177 - 20/09/2023 08:42:04 2504886 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "Six figures?? Have the Saudis taken over Derry too?" that fella wally is a wally, wouldnt listen to a word. seems the type who is 'well connected' but knows nothing Whestofthewest (Clare) - Posts: 177 - 20/09/2023 10:11:22 2504892 Link
Replying To greenfan: "It shouldn't be ok for a county board to secretly tap up another county's manager, negotiate a 3 year deal with him and then leave it to the manager to tell them he is leaving. Awful kick in the teeth for a county like Louth who were trying to be progressive and working to improve." shouldnt be allowed? people can chose to work where they want, simple as that Whestofthewest (Clare) - Posts: 177 - 20/09/2023 10:12:56 2504893 Link
In fairness to Brolly he does a lot of important work outside of the GAA. His day job for starters, and then he has been a huge advocate of the Opt For Life organisation, even going so far as to donate an organ himself. So he does put his money where his mouth is in some respects. But in GAA terms, I find it difficult to agree with some of the things he says. Like it or not, it's 2023 and young players nowadays are a whole lot different than they were in the 90s when he was playing himself. With the proliferation of sports science information available on the Internet and qualifications on the subject, GAA preparation has moved light years away from the old two trainings a week, game on Sunday routine. Young players nowadays require proper S&C programs, nutritional information, data analysis etc and will seek out anything else, e.g. sports psychology to give them an extra % or two. For Brolly to be so dismissive of that shows that he isn't quite as in tune with the modern game as he'd make out to be. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9518 - 20/09/2023 11:10:35 2504904 Link
How does Brolly donating an organ have anything to do with his constant sneering at other people? His mocking of Mayo, if someone did the same about others, would have him affecting outrage. They were not the only ones of course, Marty Morrissey, Cavanagh, and now Mickey Harte. He is well deserving of any kickback that comes his way. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3102 - 20/09/2023 11:39:56 2504909 Link