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Wexford Club Hurling Championships 2023

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Replying To lefty:  "makes sense to wait for leinster dates and see if it gives a bit more time to run off our chamo, dont no how we would of gotten 19 weeks though"
I was basing 19 weeks on how our hurling wouldn't actually have to have finished until the weekend just gone by, if we'd gone with alternate blocks (football first), all football finals played by October 14/15 in order to have teams in Leinster the following weekend, and then having those extra weeks to finish our hurling before our hurling champions were due out in Leinster.

But both you and ontheball make a good point....if any of those football champions were still involved in our hurling championships, then it would mess the whole thing up. For example, Gorey couldn't have played in Leinster Football on weekend of October 21/22, and senior hurling quarter-final or semi-final on the weekend.

Not sure they actually thought of that when deciding to put things back to wait for the Leinster dates!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2615 - 07/11/2023 13:25:32    2511923

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Replying To btwex90:  "Yep, I don't envy anyone having to deal with fixtures and getting pitches etc..

Its crazy really isn't it? If it was not for Pats Park being in such condition and fair play to the team up there looking after it, we would be in an awful situation with so many championships still not finished as it is. Was a great idea to close the Park in October with only Pats Park and a handful of club grounds being playable."
Yeah, Patrick's Park is a godsend all right. It's unbelievable the number of matches it's had in recent weeks, when every other venue was struggling.

Am told Wexford Park was closed for work on the pitch there too, and I think mainly around the goalmouths, so that it could be fairly right for Gorey v Kilcormac/Killoughey in the Leinster Championship on Sunday. Am also told that if the work hadn't been done and if matches had continued there, there'd have been little or no hope of having that work done and done right in time for the National Leagues next year either, which in turn would have had an effect on the state of the pitch for the championships (both inter-county and club) all year long too.

Don't know the exact reasons why myself, as I'm far from an expert groundsman, but that's what I'm told anyway.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2615 - 07/11/2023 13:31:31    2511927

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Replying To BacksAndForwards:  "Personally I didn't naomh eanna would be underdogs with bookies for game this weekend , rangers & naomh eanna underdog double it is for me"
I'd have both Gorey and MLR as underdogs myself.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 07/11/2023 14:28:56    2511944

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Replying To Low2Joe:  "Can't see it happening unfortunately. Can see both KK and OLG winning by 10+. They'll both see themselves having a chance at winning Leinster."
OLG will be hoping the kilkenny county players holiday in USA didn't take much out of their county players , don't think they are back until today or tomorrow

BacksAndForwards (Wexford) - Posts: 34 - 07/11/2023 15:04:38    2511952

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Replying To BacksAndForwards:  "OLG will be hoping the kilkenny county players holiday in USA didn't take much out of their county players , don't think they are back until today or tomorrow"
Wouldn't say a short holiday should have taken that much out of them. Lawlor, Butler and Deegan could even arrive back recharged and raring to go.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 07/11/2023 17:35:07    2511987

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Replying To BacksAndForwards:  "OLG will be hoping the kilkenny county players holiday in USA didn't take much out of their county players , don't think they are back until today or tomorrow"
The two players trained with OLG last night, they will be fine.

I see Naomh Eanna v KK is live on tg4 at 1.30, Wexford clubs havnt done well at all in this competition since Oulart in 2015, KK will be a huge test for Naomh Eanna even in a Wexford venue.

My dark horse are Na Fianna for Leinster, the two Currie brothers up front are serious serious hurlers.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 798 - 08/11/2023 06:11:38    2512021

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Naomh Eanna very rusty. You can see not playing for a long time is effecting then. Can't understand leaving McDonald on his own full forward line playing with the Gael force wind.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 12/11/2023 14:08:45    2512518

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Naomh Eanna very rusty. You can see not playing for a long time is effecting then. Can't understand leaving McDonald on his own full forward line playing with the Gael force wind."
Entertaining game

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 12/11/2023 14:23:01    2512522

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Have said it time and time Wexford club hurling is played a really slow slow place.

When clubs go outside the county they are constant Constantly blocked down, hooked, overturned they cannot handle a higher level of club hurling at all.

Yes our split season is a long layoff but Thomastown wiped the floor with Cloughbawn and Naomh Eanna look in serious trouble here against Kilkormac.

Cathal Dunbar and Conor McDonald are not standing out as county men.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 798 - 12/11/2023 14:34:52    2512526

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If this isn't the end of the split season in the county I don't know what needs to happen. This is so poor.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 12/11/2023 14:45:31    2512529

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Not saying they would have won anyway but can't be expected to compete with the long layoff. Just have to forget about the provincial club championship under the current system.

gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 639 - 12/11/2023 14:48:31    2512531

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Naomh Eanna very rusty. You can see not playing for a long time is effecting then. Can't understand leaving McDonald on his own full forward line playing with the Gael force wind."
Very poor 2nd half. 2 soft goals. Some poor wides.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 12/11/2023 14:56:58    2512533

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Naomh Eanna very rusty. You can see not playing for a long time is effecting then. Can't understand leaving McDonald on his own full forward line playing with the Gael force wind."
Terrible performance, three points in second half sums it up. Whatever about our championship format (and it really needs to be looked at) it looks like we are miles behind other counties in terms of competitiveness.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1455 - 12/11/2023 14:56:58    2512534

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Naomh Eanna very rusty. You can see not playing for a long time is effecting then. Can't understand leaving McDonald on his own full forward line playing with the Gael force wind."
Another trimming for our senior champions , not really suprised giving the standard on show all year really. Cloughbawn hammered yesterday too not a good show for Wexford hurling

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 237 - 12/11/2023 14:57:32    2512535

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I think the Cloughbawn result yesterday and Naomh Eanna today proves that Wexford hurling teams are at an extreme disadvantage in the Leinster Championship and will continue to do so unless the powers that be in Wexford decide to change the format.

You could see today that once Naomh Eanna got to grips with the pace of a championship match after the first 10 minutes they were every bit as polished as K/K but fatigue seemed to set in early in the second half and they had some poor wides and the second goal seemed to knock the stuffing out of them after the flukey 1st.

McDonald was very isolated and was well Marshalled, too many poor final passes let them down when they had good goal scoring chances.
Just pure rustiness which is to be expected.

On a side note, that No.15 Screeney looks like he shouldn't be on the field with men, the hurl seems too big for him but Christ he's special, scored an identical goal in the u20 Leinster final.

GaeilgeDubh (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 12/11/2023 16:03:35    2512547

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Naomh Eanna very rusty. You can see not playing for a long time is effecting then. Can't understand leaving McDonald on his own full forward line playing with the Gael force wind."
If I hear anyone else saying we were rusty, haven't played for 10 weeks, they were off the pace, first touch poor, I'll go mad. Are we going to be saying the same things every year.
The bald facts are that Gorey today and Cloughbawn yesterday were quite simply beaten out the gate. Gorey I believe were training very hard for the last 3 or 4 weeks, so they shouldn't be short of match practice. The K ks were in control for most of the game and they made Naomh Eanna look like a very average side. 14 point win says it all and the same yesterday.
The sooner we wake up in Wexford the better.
The split season has to be abolished. Or is it that our club teams are not as good as we think they are? My opinion is that the latter is the case.
It gives me no pleasure making the above observations. I want to come on be proud of the achievements of our club and county teams but the results don't lie.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 385 - 12/11/2023 16:18:31    2512551

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Replying To beano:  "Terrible performance, three points in second half sums it up. Whatever about our championship format (and it really needs to be looked at) it looks like we are miles behind other counties in terms of competitiveness."
KK looked fitter as the 2nd half went on. But tbh I thought they would win that game since they won Offaly. They've a very good team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 12/11/2023 19:02:22    2512584

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Replying To Magpie2:  "If I hear anyone else saying we were rusty, haven't played for 10 weeks, they were off the pace, first touch poor, I'll go mad. Are we going to be saying the same things every year.
The bald facts are that Gorey today and Cloughbawn yesterday were quite simply beaten out the gate. Gorey I believe were training very hard for the last 3 or 4 weeks, so they shouldn't be short of match practice. The K ks were in control for most of the game and they made Naomh Eanna look like a very average side. 14 point win says it all and the same yesterday.
The sooner we wake up in Wexford the better.
The split season has to be abolished. Or is it that our club teams are not as good as we think they are? My opinion is that the latter is the case.
It gives me no pleasure making the above observations. I want to come on be proud of the achievements of our club and county teams but the results don't lie."
"Or is it that our club teams are not as good as we think they are? My opinion is that the latter is the case."

Who thinks any of our clubs have great teams at the minute? There's no club standing out in Wexford at the minute so if they aren't standing out here why would anyone expect them to stand out among the best teams in Leinster? As regards Cloughbawn the feedback I got from them during the week was that they had achieved what they wanted to achieve. Plus they were missing players also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13783 - 12/11/2023 19:07:39    2512585

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Replying To Magpie2:  "If I hear anyone else saying we were rusty, haven't played for 10 weeks, they were off the pace, first touch poor, I'll go mad. Are we going to be saying the same things every year.
The bald facts are that Gorey today and Cloughbawn yesterday were quite simply beaten out the gate. Gorey I believe were training very hard for the last 3 or 4 weeks, so they shouldn't be short of match practice. The K ks were in control for most of the game and they made Naomh Eanna look like a very average side. 14 point win says it all and the same yesterday.
The sooner we wake up in Wexford the better.
The split season has to be abolished. Or is it that our club teams are not as good as we think they are? My opinion is that the latter is the case.
It gives me no pleasure making the above observations. I want to come on be proud of the achievements of our club and county teams but the results don't lie."
Fair comment Magpie. So many people are blaming the layoff since county final ( the clubs and players voted for the current system) but what are the excuses for the poor Leinster club results in the last 6 or 7 years ??
We can go on making excuses (blaming fixture schedule, poor referees etc) but unfortunately I believe that we are not at the top table when it comes to Leinster club championship. The results of the last few years are testament to this.

Its only a few months since we were one bad result (thankfully it didn't happen) from dropping out of the Senior championship.
It gives me no pleasure in reminding people that we are not the hurling super-power that some seem to think we are.

Yellaman (Wexford) - Posts: 126 - 12/11/2023 19:24:01    2512588

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Replying To Yellaman:  "Fair comment Magpie. So many people are blaming the layoff since county final ( the clubs and players voted for the current system) but what are the excuses for the poor Leinster club results in the last 6 or 7 years ??
We can go on making excuses (blaming fixture schedule, poor referees etc) but unfortunately I believe that we are not at the top table when it comes to Leinster club championship. The results of the last few years are testament to this.

Its only a few months since we were one bad result (thankfully it didn't happen) from dropping out of the Senior championship.
It gives me no pleasure in reminding people that we are not the hurling super-power that some seem to think we are."
The reality is clubs are not working hard enough to develop players. The Olart team that were successful were as a result of a good crop coming at the same time and the local club and a few really hard working school teachers spending the time working with them. The fact that it was purely hurling surely was a help too.
There was no such thing as a GPO or asking co board to come and do anything. Can anyone name a club who is doing this work now?

Groundball (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 12/11/2023 21:02:00    2512601

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