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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "If he had been killed you would probably claim he killed himself!

Democrats - with the support of Republicans who now support Harris! - are the ones who unleashed hell in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya for no good reason. Then having made a mess, crawled out and abandoned people to the Taliban and their ilk. Democrats are also the ones who are standing over the slaughter in Gaza .

These are you "good guys" I take it?"
I'm not too sure how accurate you are on this one - and I have no axe to grind whether it be Republican or Democrat. The Americans were still in Iraq since the Gulf war and as such became targets as occupiers in the rise of ISIS. The international coalition was cobbled together and sent in to tackle them. Would the west be a safer place if ISIS had been allowed to establish its Caliphate across swaythes of Iraq, Lybia and Syria ? and set up a regime resembling that currently in power in Afghanistan. And allow Syria continue with its displacement of the Kurds. Maybe so, I personally don't think so. I try to take an overview of all that went on in the Middle East over the past 50 plus years. And, the Republican party are at least as supportive of Israel as the Democrats, if not more so. Just read up on what went on during Trumps term. Mr Netanyahu played the Donald and his son in law like a violin.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1182 - 17/09/2024 17:50:26    2570441

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "If he had been killed you would probably claim he killed himself!

Democrats - with the support of Republicans who now support Harris! - are the ones who unleashed hell in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya for no good reason. Then having made a mess, crawled out and abandoned people to the Taliban and their ilk. Democrats are also the ones who are standing over the slaughter in Gaza .

These are you "good guys" I take it?"
Might want get all facts straight another person probably doesn't question anything trump say Democrats not perfect but lord blame for everything is nonsense. Bush was president during Iraq war also

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 436 - 17/09/2024 18:47:04    2570450

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "If he had been killed you would probably claim he killed himself!

Democrats - with the support of Republicans who now support Harris! - are the ones who unleashed hell in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya for no good reason. Then having made a mess, crawled out and abandoned people to the Taliban and their ilk. Democrats are also the ones who are standing over the slaughter in Gaza .

These are you "good guys" I take it?"
So u might remember facts and not just selective criticism which was polarised American politics is .

I get Democrats some anyway don't help themselves with gaza thing but u think trump that would change it would get worse.
Look this with more balance and get all facts not just one side selectisim

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 436 - 17/09/2024 18:48:55    2570451

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Replying To eslinchickenmaryland:  "I didn't say that the polls said he won the debate, I said he is ahead in the polls after it"
The Poles have their hands full with floods at the minute !!

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2947 - 17/09/2024 18:51:06    2570453

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "So u might remember facts and not just selective criticism which was polarised American politics is .

I get Democrats some anyway don't help themselves with gaza thing but u think trump that would change it would get worse.
Look this with more balance and get all facts not just one side selectisim"
I wish i knew what you were saying.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2964 - 17/09/2024 19:28:10    2570464

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "If he had been killed you would probably claim he killed himself!

Democrats - with the support of Republicans who now support Harris! - are the ones who unleashed hell in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya for no good reason. Then having made a mess, crawled out and abandoned people to the Taliban and their ilk. Democrats are also the ones who are standing over the slaughter in Gaza .

These are you "good guys" I take it?"
Are you taking about Iraq 1 (when Bush Snr went in) or Iraq 2 (when Bush Jr went in)?

Either way,I think you'll find they were both Republicans.


It was also Bush Jr in Afghanistan. Still a republican by the way.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5115 - 18/09/2024 05:01:55    2570493

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "If he had been killed you would probably claim he killed himself!

Democrats - with the support of Republicans who now support Harris! - are the ones who unleashed hell in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya for no good reason. Then having made a mess, crawled out and abandoned people to the Taliban and their ilk. Democrats are also the ones who are standing over the slaughter in Gaza .

These are you "good guys" I take it?"
Iraq eh?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8068 - 18/09/2024 09:14:06    2570508

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Replying To Breffni40:  "The disinformation train has arrived on HS"
Took a while but it got here.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1182 - 18/09/2024 16:13:07    2570602

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What do you all make of the new Champions League format? I must admit I'm finding it hard to have any interest in it, which is crazy because it's essentially the highest standard of football on the planet supposedly. I watched a bit of City Inter. It was entertaining enough in parts but lacking in intensity.

UEFA/FIFA seem determined to push elite players to breaking point. There's already talk of strike action ahead.
I'd be very interested in seeing the viewing figures. Who has the time or inclination to be watching all these lukewarm matches on TV?

It'd be better if it went back to the old way, no seeding open draw, two-legged affairs and distribute the money evenly around Europe. But there's a snowball chance in hell of that happening.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9458 - 20/09/2024 14:48:25    2571000

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "What do you all make of the new Champions League format? I must admit I'm finding it hard to have any interest in it, which is crazy because it's essentially the highest standard of football on the planet supposedly. I watched a bit of City Inter. It was entertaining enough in parts but lacking in intensity.

UEFA/FIFA seem determined to push elite players to breaking point. There's already talk of strike action ahead.
I'd be very interested in seeing the viewing figures. Who has the time or inclination to be watching all these lukewarm matches on TV?

It'd be better if it went back to the old way, no seeding open draw, two-legged affairs and distribute the money evenly around Europe. But there's a snowball chance in hell of that happening."
I looked at most of the Arsenal one last night and thought that Arsenal didn't put a lot in to it. Probably with an eye to Sunday v City. Looked like a case to me of " don't get injured and don't lose".

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1182 - 20/09/2024 15:57:58    2571023

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "What do you all make of the new Champions League format? I must admit I'm finding it hard to have any interest in it, which is crazy because it's essentially the highest standard of football on the planet supposedly. I watched a bit of City Inter. It was entertaining enough in parts but lacking in intensity.

UEFA/FIFA seem determined to push elite players to breaking point. There's already talk of strike action ahead.
I'd be very interested in seeing the viewing figures. Who has the time or inclination to be watching all these lukewarm matches on TV?

It'd be better if it went back to the old way, no seeding open draw, two-legged affairs and distribute the money evenly around Europe. But there's a snowball chance in hell of that happening."
It's horrendous. This new system is so boring and predictable as we can all name most of the 8 clubs finishing in the top 8 and most of the teams finishing in the bottom 12. Last seasons format was way better as there was a far higher chance of the massive clubs not making it to the knockout stage but now there is no jeopardy

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 155 - 20/09/2024 19:30:40    2571055

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "What do you all make of the new Champions League format? I must admit I'm finding it hard to have any interest in it, which is crazy because it's essentially the highest standard of football on the planet supposedly. I watched a bit of City Inter. It was entertaining enough in parts but lacking in intensity.

UEFA/FIFA seem determined to push elite players to breaking point. There's already talk of strike action ahead.
I'd be very interested in seeing the viewing figures. Who has the time or inclination to be watching all these lukewarm matches on TV?

It'd be better if it went back to the old way, no seeding open draw, two-legged affairs and distribute the money evenly around Europe. But there's a snowball chance in hell of that happening."
No seeding was super because it threw up first or second round ties like Forest v Liverpool back in the day, and Milan v Real Madrid, and gave an opportunity to so called weaker teams to navigate a way to the final

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 798 - 20/09/2024 19:38:13    2571057

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