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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Jes ye are an awful bunch of karens on here in fairness for what I assume are grown men mostly,
NATO kept pushing in on Russia's doorstep breaking previous agreements and the conflict in Ukraine was the result of it, happened over a long timeframe,
as Putin said the cause of the conflict has to be dealt with, same as in the our own six counties.
I'm no massive Trump fan but I think it must be clear to anyone who isn't biased that he just wants the killing to end, he wants to be a peacemaker in this world, that is no bad thing is it?
I don't think the Russians are trying to retake eastern Europe, I think they were forced to act in Ukraine by NATO, not many will agree with me but that doesn't make what I'm saying untrue."
Jesus what are you on about? Israel said they would take over Gaza which they are doing. Russia have said they will take over the land they want in Eastern Europe. At what point do you eh maybe take them seriously?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8487 - 17/08/2025 18:08:26    2632282

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I hope Zelensky has the manners to at least wear a suit tomorrow in Washington, dress to impress as they say, the t-shirt kid act is worn out at this stage.
Funny how our media has been telling us for years that the Russians were losing, I think if the truth be told the Ukrainians are just about hanging on at this stage fighting this proxy NATO war.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3413 - 17/08/2025 22:10:09    2632349

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Replying To TheClareKid:  "With all due respect do you think I was sitting in on the meeting between the two leaders? I imagine there's a lot of give and take or negotiation in these things. Subservient to Mr Putin? If that's what you call bombing his ally in Iran but that doesn't seem logical. Mr Zelensky to my understanding was complaining of the stoppage or lack of funding from the USA once Mr Trump took over from Mr Biden. I believe that's why Mr Trump and Mr Vance snapped at him. I don't know any more than you know about these only speculation on my part. I just want the wars to stop and will leave the semantics to others."
The Ukrainians were guaranteed their borders and safety by the Americans and Russians in return for giving up their nukes. It's not hard to see why they are p###ed off now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 17/08/2025 22:27:51    2632353

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