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I think even all the Trump haters will see now that he is a great force for peace in this world, I think the end of the Ukraine conflict is in sight.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3412 - 16/08/2025 11:44:13    2632093

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think even all the Trump haters will see now that he is a great force for peace in this world, I think the end of the Ukraine conflict is in sight."
Like Neville Chamberlain?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16842 - 16/08/2025 12:28:29    2632095

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think even all the Trump haters will see now that he is a great force for peace in this world, I think the end of the Ukraine conflict is in sight."
Unfortunately, Trump's weakness is emboldening Putin. Putin knows how to play Trump. A red carpet rolled out for an indicted war criminal. A bad day for America in its largest State. When again are Trump's sanctions against Russia starting. Is it 10 days or two weeks or the never never. The US Senate had legislation for a strong secondary package of sanctions against Russia and Trump scuppered it. As Trump said…. Vladimir.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2590 - 16/08/2025 13:19:33    2632102

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think even all the Trump haters will see now that he is a great force for peace in this world, I think the end of the Ukraine conflict is in sight."
The end is in sight? Based on what ? A meeting in Alaska with Putin that ended with no ceasefire in sight, no sanctions on Russia.

I think the most embarrassing thing of the lot is when you compare how Zelensky was treated compared to Putin. Zelensky was blindsided and insulted in front of the cameras by Trump and his unqualified clowns alongside him. The war criminal from Russia is invited to America and is greeted like a long lost friend. Roll out the red carpet. Embarrassing stuff.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8486 - 16/08/2025 13:23:17    2632103

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The end is in sight? Based on what ? A meeting in Alaska with Putin that ended with no ceasefire in sight, no sanctions on Russia.

I think the most embarrassing thing of the lot is when you compare how Zelensky was treated compared to Putin. Zelensky was blindsided and insulted in front of the cameras by Trump and his unqualified clowns alongside him. The war criminal from Russia is invited to America and is greeted like a long lost friend. Roll out the red carpet. Embarrassing stuff."
Before his fans get on here, let's get something clear I DONT HATE MR T. Actually, I don't hate anybody. Hate is a word thrown around too easily in social media discourse. Mr T is doing what he promised to do in America. His supporters will have to live with the after effects of his dictats long after he is gone. What I find nauseating is the thrall in which he holds Putin. No sanctions, no tariffs, no respect for the international courts of justice. Putin definitely has some pretty firm hold over him. Red carpets, warm handshakes, luvvy dovey actions. Putin just does whatever he feels like with no sanction. It will be interesting to see how Zelensky gets treated on Monday. Another humiliation ??

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1810 - 16/08/2025 14:17:22    2632112

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Before his fans get on here, let's get something clear I DONT HATE MR T. Actually, I don't hate anybody. Hate is a word thrown around too easily in social media discourse. Mr T is doing what he promised to do in America. His supporters will have to live with the after effects of his dictats long after he is gone. What I find nauseating is the thrall in which he holds Putin. No sanctions, no tariffs, no respect for the international courts of justice. Putin definitely has some pretty firm hold over him. Red carpets, warm handshakes, luvvy dovey actions. Putin just does whatever he feels like with no sanction. It will be interesting to see how Zelensky gets treated on Monday. Another humiliation ??"
Trump is doing what he promised. That's grand. But also so much of it makes zero sense. But his supporters are so blinded they don't care nor do they want to listen. The Epstein thing is beyond a joke. It's all they cared about. Now he tells people stop talking about it and suddenly it's not as important anymore. Him and his cronies stand for nothing of substance. They will flip flop on anything overnight if it suits them.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8486 - 16/08/2025 14:33:13    2632116

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The end is in sight? Based on what ? A meeting in Alaska with Putin that ended with no ceasefire in sight, no sanctions on Russia.

I think the most embarrassing thing of the lot is when you compare how Zelensky was treated compared to Putin. Zelensky was blindsided and insulted in front of the cameras by Trump and his unqualified clowns alongside him. The war criminal from Russia is invited to America and is greeted like a long lost friend. Roll out the red carpet. Embarrassing stuff."
On the ball.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2590 - 16/08/2025 14:44:51    2632120

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think even all the Trump haters will see now that he is a great force for peace in this world, I think the end of the Ukraine conflict is in sight."
Yes Ukraine will be forced to give up the land the Russians have already invaded and illegally occupied. Great deal alright. Putin running rings around Trumpet.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11739 - 16/08/2025 15:09:37    2632124

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Ever see the gif of Gordon Ramsey with the blond haired and guy who mess up their meal ? One gets a hug and the other gets a tirade.

That's kinda how I feel trump sees putin and zelensky

On a separate note remember all the mainstream media trying to convince us putin was on way out at start of invasion? doesn't look a sick man now.

I'd love to hear his honest opinion of trump

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1663 - 16/08/2025 15:36:34    2632128

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Some of the critics and "thinkers" here are so unrealistic. They seem to want Mr Trump to fail no matter what. Even Hillary Clinton seems to be pulling for him to do well in this matter judging by her recent remarks. At least he's trying the peaceful approach rather than war as a first option.

TheClareKid (Clare) - Posts: 2 - 16/08/2025 15:46:38    2632130

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think even all the Trump haters will see now that he is a great force for peace in this world, I think the end of the Ukraine conflict is in sight."
The weakest administration ever in America, (Trump isn't the only one in that government that hasn't a notion what's going on) gives Putin a green light to do whatever he pleases. How many times is it now that he's been exposed as a puppy dog for Russia?
Israel and Russia now have more of a say in American foreign policy than any elected politician in the US including the president, does.
Incredible when you think this was meant to have been a republican leadership.

cuttothebone (Kildare) - Posts: 171 - 16/08/2025 16:23:34    2632133

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Replying To TheClareKid:  "Some of the critics and "thinkers" here are so unrealistic. They seem to want Mr Trump to fail no matter what. Even Hillary Clinton seems to be pulling for him to do well in this matter judging by her recent remarks. At least he's trying the peaceful approach rather than war as a first option."
Oh look a new poster out of the blue. What are the chances? Nobody wants anyone to fail. You can only analyse the crazy things as they happen? What exactly has Trump done to make it peaceful? Meeting Putin isn't showing strength. Quite the opposite. Feel free to reply using your other account.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8486 - 16/08/2025 18:06:44    2632142

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Yes Ukraine will be forced to give up the land the Russians have already invaded and illegally occupied. Great deal alright. Putin running rings around Trumpet."
Not at all. Every war that has ever been fought since time began has concluded with the victor dictating the terms. The reality of the battlefield is that the Russians have captured the territory they have...they wont be pushed back from it unless Europe/ US are determined to directly enter the war and officially send their armies to fight the Russians. Doing that would almost certainly cause an escalation to nuclear level. I wouldnt rule out Europe toying with that but probably they are only willing to continue the war til the last Ukrainian is killed. Trump for once is dealing with reality...it's the European leaders who are deluded. But probably Trump will make another 180 degree turn again...he seems to go along with the policy of whoever is the last leader he has spoken to that has flattered him.

There is so much propaganda from both sides happening in this war. For a balanced view I would recommend people to have a look at a couple of Willie Oam videos on YouTube. He is a former Aussie infantry man, currently undergoing chemo for cancer but posts videos when he is well enough to do so. Essentially he is pro-Ukrainian and uses the Ukrainian military approved (Deep State) maps as the basis of his analysis of the state of the war, and compares them with other maps (e.g Suriyat maps) to decipher the real state of play in the war. As he says himself,whether it is Russia or Ukraine only about 30% of what either protagonist claims to be the case should be taken as true.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2067 - 16/08/2025 18:15:56    2632143

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Replying To cuttothebone:  "The weakest administration ever in America, (Trump isn't the only one in that government that hasn't a notion what's going on) gives Putin a green light to do whatever he pleases. How many times is it now that he's been exposed as a puppy dog for Russia?
Israel and Russia now have more of a say in American foreign policy than any elected politician in the US including the president, does.
Incredible when you think this was meant to have been a republican leadership."
With respect both wars did start on someone else's watch and not a whole pile done.

democrats were running a man for president clearly not acting with his full facilities.

I can't see much been different in Israel regardless who was in charge they just seem to have free reign over everything

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1663 - 16/08/2025 18:34:47    2632146

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Replying To TheClareKid:  "Some of the critics and "thinkers" here are so unrealistic. They seem to want Mr Trump to fail no matter what. Even Hillary Clinton seems to be pulling for him to do well in this matter judging by her recent remarks. At least he's trying the peaceful approach rather than war as a first option."
Perhaps if you are going to enter in to these posts you might take the trouble to have another look over them and really read them, then post. Forget the lazy generalisations. And by the way, you are welcome to the forum.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1810 - 16/08/2025 18:46:13    2632147

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Oh look a new poster out of the blue. What are the chances? Nobody wants anyone to fail. You can only analyse the crazy things as they happen? What exactly has Trump done to make it peaceful? Meeting Putin isn't showing strength. Quite the opposite. Feel free to reply using your other account."
Spot on post!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 355 - 16/08/2025 20:25:43    2632157

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Replying To jm25:  "With respect both wars did start on someone else's watch and not a whole pile done.

democrats were running a man for president clearly not acting with his full facilities.

I can't see much been different in Israel regardless who was in charge they just seem to have free reign over everything"
It was a huge mistake by the Democrats to run Biden for Re election when he clearly wasn't fit. He had to pull out after his disastrous debate performance and Kamala Harris was a weak candidate who had only three months to put a campaign together. For all of that, Trump is judged on his own merits. Donald Trump, in terms of character, honesty and temperament is unfit to be President of the United States. He's a lying, boastful , vindictive incompetent man .Putin, an indicted war criminal, gave Trump the runaround in Alaska yesterday. Bad news for Ukraine unfortunately but also humiliation for America on it's own soil. Compare and contrast with another Republican President Ronald Reagan - Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall. Trump is doing enormous damage to America,

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2590 - 16/08/2025 20:39:27    2632159

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Replying To TheClareKid:  "Some of the critics and "thinkers" here are so unrealistic. They seem to want Mr Trump to fail no matter what. Even Hillary Clinton seems to be pulling for him to do well in this matter judging by her recent remarks. At least he's trying the peaceful approach rather than war as a first option."
If Trump brought about world peace then great I'll applaud him but I live in the real world. Anyone who thinks the Russians will stop where they are if they are allowed keep part of Ukraine are naive fools.

The Russians will keep coming back for more and more. I was in Moldova recently and I'll tell you that would open your eyes ye an about the fear they live in.

At the end of the day the Ukrainians will be screwed over. The EU military alliance will move forward and Ireland will have to play its part…

Trump fan boys get very defensive when he's criticised,

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11739 - 16/08/2025 21:15:47    2632164

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Replying To endgame:  "It was a huge mistake by the Democrats to run Biden for Re election when he clearly wasn't fit. He had to pull out after his disastrous debate performance and Kamala Harris was a weak candidate who had only three months to put a campaign together. For all of that, Trump is judged on his own merits. Donald Trump, in terms of character, honesty and temperament is unfit to be President of the United States. He's a lying, boastful , vindictive incompetent man .Putin, an indicted war criminal, gave Trump the runaround in Alaska yesterday. Bad news for Ukraine unfortunately but also humiliation for America on it's own soil. Compare and contrast with another Republican President Ronald Reagan - Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall. Trump is doing enormous damage to America,"
Good post. The greatest tragedy of all is that too many Americans can't see what is really happening to them and to their standing on the world stage. They just take what they like from everything he tells them. The old fable of the Emperors Clothes comes to mind.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1810 - 16/08/2025 21:16:15    2632165

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