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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Our PR system beyond your simplistic Americanised mind obviously."
Would that be the same PR system that didn't want to take over 13 billion from Apple or the same system that owes the US over 250 billion. If that's the case please hold onto it

nails (Galway) - Posts: 28 - 23/11/2024 17:37:32    2580848

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Replying To nails:  "Would that be the same PR system that didn't want to take over 13 billion from Apple or the same system that owes the US over 250 billion. If that's the case please hold onto it"
Would that be a simplistic observation. Show many trillions make up the US national debt at the minute ?? And is it the Chinese who are holding those tabs ???

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1271 - 23/11/2024 18:01:06    2580852

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Would that be a simplistic observation. Show many trillions make up the US national debt at the minute ?? And is it the Chinese who are holding those tabs ???"
Yes China & Japan own 7% of the debt. Luckily they have the GDP to back it up somewhat. Who owns Irelands debt again ?

nails (Galway) - Posts: 28 - 23/11/2024 18:40:46    2580863

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Replying To IronSleeve:  "Firstly, Trump didn't have a landslide victory, he got less than 51% of the vote.

Secondly, Trump has no interest per se in de-escalation, only if it suits him. He hasn't been banging the phone to Netanyahu to de-escalate.
Trump does have an inordinate interest in dictators and their modus operandi, particularly Putin who he is obviously in thrall to. Trump is a Russian asset and will be played easily by Putin.

Americans do indeed have a history of sticking their noses into things all over the world (as do the Russians of course). But like a stopped clock, they're right the odd time and Ukraine is one of those rare times, the only pity is that they didn't support the Ukrainians wholeheartedly from Day One."
I'm no expert on politics but from what I remember hearing Trump won every swing state, he won the popular vote by 3 million votes,(I think) he won the electoral college votes comfortably to be elected President.
The Republicans won a majority in both Houses, considering all the mud they threw at Trump and the Republicans I'd call that a fair oul landslide victory, not a massive landslide I'll grant you.
I never said Trump had any interest in de-escalating the Israeli genocide, I was saying he will try to de-escalate the war in Ukraine, the Democrats would have kept firing money and weapons at it, maybe even sent troops in who knows, Trump hopefully will bring a settlement there quickly before the whole thing blows up into a full blown war with NATO.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3032 - 23/11/2024 18:57:26    2580868

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I'm no expert on politics but from what I remember hearing Trump won every swing state, he won the popular vote by 3 million votes,(I think) he won the electoral college votes comfortably to be elected President.
The Republicans won a majority in both Houses, considering all the mud they threw at Trump and the Republicans I'd call that a fair oul landslide victory, not a massive landslide I'll grant you.
I never said Trump had any interest in de-escalating the Israeli genocide, I was saying he will try to de-escalate the war in Ukraine, the Democrats would have kept firing money and weapons at it, maybe even sent troops in who knows, Trump hopefully will bring a settlement there quickly before the whole thing blows up into a full blown war with NATO."
He'll solve it in a day. His own words.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8157 - 23/11/2024 18:59:58    2580869

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I'm no expert on politics but from what I remember hearing Trump won every swing state, he won the popular vote by 3 million votes,(I think) he won the electoral college votes comfortably to be elected President.
The Republicans won a majority in both Houses, considering all the mud they threw at Trump and the Republicans I'd call that a fair oul landslide victory, not a massive landslide I'll grant you.
I never said Trump had any interest in de-escalating the Israeli genocide, I was saying he will try to de-escalate the war in Ukraine, the Democrats would have kept firing money and weapons at it, maybe even sent troops in who knows, Trump hopefully will bring a settlement there quickly before the whole thing blows up into a full blown war with NATO."
I agree with most if not all of your post but I'd like to point out that Harris raised over 1.2 Billion Dollars and yet her campaign is over $20 Million in debt! Trump has leftover money. Trump has the Presidency, both Houses, most Governorships, the Supreme Court leans Right, etc. MSNBC which is the most left wing "news" on TV in the USA seems to be up for sale and rumor has it ELON MUSK could buy it. The only States that Harris won were states that have NO VOTER ID. More bad news for Democrats: due to the population shift from BLUE STATES like NY, Illinois, California, etc to RED STATES like Texas, Florida, Idaho, etc the red states will pick up more seats and the blue states will automatically lose some.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2263 - 23/11/2024 19:28:17    2580874

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Replying To nails:  "Yes China & Japan own 7% of the debt. Luckily they have the GDP to back it up somewhat. Who owns Irelands debt again ?"
If they gave all this GDP etc to pay it back, what is all this MAGA stuff that your pal is always on about. Is America great or is it not ?? To me they were and are great and we would all be speaking German but for their entrance into the last WW. This PR system has served us well, despite FF trying, I think it was twice in my lifetime, to have our constitution changed to clear the way for the single non - transferable voting system. Perhaps you could explain how this electoral college works and how it is good for democracy. Also, give us a run down on this Project 25 that many of Mr Ts ardent supporters are trying to fly, and how it might might serve democracy in your adopted country ?

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1271 - 23/11/2024 20:15:17    2580888

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The far right are forgetting that if hadn't been for the influx of immigrants over the centuries that we would never have eventually abandoned superstition. Nor would we be the English speaking magnet for Investment.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3126 - 23/11/2024 20:48:35    2580900

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Replying To Freethinker:  "If they gave all this GDP etc to pay it back, what is all this MAGA stuff that your pal is always on about. Is America great or is it not ?? To me they were and are great and we would all be speaking German but for their entrance into the last WW. This PR system has served us well, despite FF trying, I think it was twice in my lifetime, to have our constitution changed to clear the way for the single non - transferable voting system. Perhaps you could explain how this electoral college works and how it is good for democracy. Also, give us a run down on this Project 25 that many of Mr Ts ardent supporters are trying to fly, and how it might might serve democracy in your adopted country ?"
Speaking German or English....?
Both foreign tongues.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1960 - 23/11/2024 20:56:39    2580903

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Replying To Freethinker:  "If they gave all this GDP etc to pay it back, what is all this MAGA stuff that your pal is always on about. Is America great or is it not ?? To me they were and are great and we would all be speaking German but for their entrance into the last WW. This PR system has served us well, despite FF trying, I think it was twice in my lifetime, to have our constitution changed to clear the way for the single non - transferable voting system. Perhaps you could explain how this electoral college works and how it is good for democracy. Also, give us a run down on this Project 25 that many of Mr Ts ardent supporters are trying to fly, and how it might might serve democracy in your adopted country ?"
Not so sure about that WW2 observation. The RAF destroyed them and the Soviets had them on the ropes.

America entered to make a few propaganda videos when the war was won.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3148 - 23/11/2024 21:18:43    2580908

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Replying To Freethinker:  "If they gave all this GDP etc to pay it back, what is all this MAGA stuff that your pal is always on about. Is America great or is it not ?? To me they were and are great and we would all be speaking German but for their entrance into the last WW. This PR system has served us well, despite FF trying, I think it was twice in my lifetime, to have our constitution changed to clear the way for the single non - transferable voting system. Perhaps you could explain how this electoral college works and how it is good for democracy. Also, give us a run down on this Project 25 that many of Mr Ts ardent supporters are trying to fly, and how it might might serve democracy in your adopted country ?"
I sure can. Every one electoral collage vote represents approx 700,000 people per state. Example Massachusetts has 11 electoral collage votes for a population of approximately 7 + million. Does that explain it. It's pretty simple.
Anyway the Republicans won the popular vote by 5 million compared to losing it by 7 million in 2020. Up in every demograph.
You do realize that the Democrats have been in power for 12 of the last 16 years.
Anyway you don't have to live here so luckily it shouldn't affect your day to day.
I'll let you get back to your canvassing for what you believe in and party or independents that will satisfy you.

nails (Galway) - Posts: 28 - 23/11/2024 21:38:06    2580911

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