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Replying To TheFlaker: "Good one lad. So just a reminder you landed on here thinking i was posting about you when we weren't referring to you. Rent free indeed." If that's the case tell us who the name of the poster is that you claim you were referring to?
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Replying To peiledoir20: "If that's the case tell us who the name of the poster is that you claim you were referring to?" Did you read the previous posts? A county man of yours posted about Murphy, that's what me and the Galway man were talking about. Not you. Cringe stuff from you. Rent free was it?
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 11/11/2024 10:07:48
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Did you read the previous posts? A county man of yours posted about Murphy, that's what me and the Galway man were talking about. Not you. Cringe stuff from you. Rent free was it?" Did you also tell this poster "things that were going on in his county before he knew"?
Think before yiu dig that hole any deeper for yourself.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1036 - 11/11/2024 12:17:47
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Indeed personal responsibility is important but people are hopeless.
Owning a home can be difficult. That's ok. Anything worth having requires work.
However we're now teetering on the edge of unachievable for a significant proportion of our youth." Of course there is a housing problem, every country in this free western world are experiencing the same problem, however I am now beginning to think the debate is being milked. It's not made any easier when everyone is demanding a house at the same time that's an impossible task for any government, impossible.
There are a number of different categories of people demanding houses, for example, single parent families, cohabiting families, married families, separated couples, there is also a huge ever-increasing number of a variety of immigrants and others, it is almost an impossible task.
In our up-and-coming election the chances are that we are looking at a new government made up of a rainbow coalition and that won't make the governing of our country any easier or build houses faster, will it.?
Fine Gale has a new party leader and deputy leader, while they are both honest and decent people I have serious reservations about either / both as Taoiseach, leader and deputy leader as imo neither has leadership ability's . Should Fianna Fail win one or two more seats then Fine Gael then it is very likely that Michael Martin will become Taoiseach, at this point should it happen Simon Harris's leadership will almost definitely be brought into question, so too will the appointment of Helen McEntee be revisited, it will be remembered that she survived a vote of no confidence a few months ago and lucky to survive a second that didn't materialize so to speak.
Should Labour, Social Democrats and the Green's win a few seats they will only add to the complexity of forming a new stable government.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3049 - 11/11/2024 12:42:23
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Replying To supersub15: "Of course there is a housing problem, every country in this free western world are experiencing the same problem, however I am now beginning to think the debate is being milked. It's not made any easier when everyone is demanding a house at the same time that's an impossible task for any government, impossible.
There are a number of different categories of people demanding houses, for example, single parent families, cohabiting families, married families, separated couples, there is also a huge ever-increasing number of a variety of immigrants and others, it is almost an impossible task.
In our up-and-coming election the chances are that we are looking at a new government made up of a rainbow coalition and that won't make the governing of our country any easier or build houses faster, will it.?
Fine Gale has a new party leader and deputy leader, while they are both honest and decent people I have serious reservations about either / both as Taoiseach, leader and deputy leader as imo neither has leadership ability's . Should Fianna Fail win one or two more seats then Fine Gael then it is very likely that Michael Martin will become Taoiseach, at this point should it happen Simon Harris's leadership will almost definitely be brought into question, so too will the appointment of Helen McEntee be revisited, it will be remembered that she survived a vote of no confidence a few months ago and lucky to survive a second that didn't materialize so to speak.
Should Labour, Social Democrats and the Green's win a few seats they will only add to the complexity of forming a new stable government." "Every country in the free western world is experiencing the same problem"
There isn't the same problem in France. Spain. Italy. The UK. Holland. The States. Canada. Australia is hard to get a house in ok, but I can't think of anywhere else, never mind it being a problem everywhere else.
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Replying To Viking66: ""Every country in the free western world is experiencing the same problem"
There isn't the same problem in France. Spain. Italy. The UK. Holland. The States. Canada. Australia is hard to get a house in ok, but I can't think of anywhere else, never mind it being a problem everywhere else." The UK,USA,Canada,Australia and Ireland.The common denominator seems to be Britain.Holland seems to be the only outlier among the countries you mention.(William of Orange maybe?).I do notice that problems that arise in the UK eg difficulty in getting a Doctors appointment,Immigration etc always seem to crop up in Ireland at a later date.
gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1126 - 11/11/2024 16:48:18
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Replying To gunman: "The UK,USA,Canada,Australia and Ireland.The common denominator seems to be Britain.Holland seems to be the only outlier among the countries you mention.(William of Orange maybe?).I do notice that problems that arise in the UK eg difficulty in getting a Doctors appointment,Immigration etc always seem to crop up in Ireland at a later date." France, Spain, and Italy were the 1st 3 countries I mentioned. Maybe it's you that has the great interest in Britain?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13852 - 11/11/2024 17:44:56
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Did you post this on here pre election?" I replied to you but the admin chose not to print it.i have no idea why.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8678 - 11/11/2024 19:04:38
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You'd have to laugh at the promises and the party manifestos, once they from a coalition gov they will blame their coalition partners for them not being able to implement their pre election promises.
Also these parties and media don't seem to learn that it's not what goes on in their echo chamber that counts when the people get the chance to express the opinion in the ballot box, it is usually on the real issues and local issues that decides their vote.
It will be interesting to see if Brian Stanley gets elected as an independent, I hope he does.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3028 - 11/11/2024 19:53:52
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "You'd have to laugh at the promises and the party manifestos, once they from a coalition gov they will blame their coalition partners for them not being able to implement their pre election promises.
Also these parties and media don't seem to learn that it's not what goes on in their echo chamber that counts when the people get the chance to express the opinion in the ballot box, it is usually on the real issues and local issues that decides their vote.
It will be interesting to see if Brian Stanley gets elected as an independent, I hope he does." I think SF will do much better than people think especially if they can get the younger voters to actually vote … As long as those Greens get wiped out especially it's leader I would be happy enough….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3025 - 11/11/2024 20:46:40
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "I think SF will do much better than people think especially if they can get the younger voters to actually vote … As long as those Greens get wiped out especially it's leader I would be happy enough…." SF are running 3 candidates in Donegal which has been a stronghold for them, I don't think they have any chance of getting 3 in this 5 seater, they'll hold the 2 they have but running the third candidate I suppose makes sense for local transfers, They have lost a lot of support up here just going by what you hear chatting to people, truth will be shown on polling day.
FF support here is improving, Pat the Cope will do well along with McConologue.
I think FF will get 2 here and FG will battle it out with Pringle for the last seat, that's my prediction anyway.
I'm with you on the Greens, hope they don't even get 1 seat, disaster for rural Ireland that party.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3028 - 11/11/2024 21:17:25
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "SF are running 3 candidates in Donegal which has been a stronghold for them, I don't think they have any chance of getting 3 in this 5 seater, they'll hold the 2 they have but running the third candidate I suppose makes sense for local transfers, They have lost a lot of support up here just going by what you hear chatting to people, truth will be shown on polling day.
FF support here is improving, Pat the Cope will do well along with McConologue.
I think FF will get 2 here and FG will battle it out with Pringle for the last seat, that's my prediction anyway.
I'm with you on the Greens, hope they don't even get 1 seat, disaster for rural Ireland that party." I won't be voting for them, but the greens do deserve their due credit for the local link buses
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12198 - 12/11/2024 09:55:18
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Replying To peiledoir20: "Did you also tell this poster "things that were going on in his county before he knew"?
Think before yiu dig that hole any deeper for yourself." I did. There were 3 or 4 of ye. Are you seriously that delusional you can't even admit when you have clearly made a fool of yourself.
The Galway poster referred to the post from TirChonaill directed at me. Then i responded to that post. That's what happened. Then you jumped in and embarrassed yourself. Rent free xx
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 12/11/2024 10:07:10
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Replying To Viking66: "France, Spain, and Italy were the 1st 3 countries I mentioned. Maybe it's you that has the great interest in Britain?" I thought you were saying France.Spain and Italy were OK.Of the countries you said were having problems viz Ireland,USA,Canada and Australia I was just saying they were all former colonies of Britain which left me wondering if that was just a coincidence.Holland not in that category of course.
gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1126 - 12/11/2024 10:30:17
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With the housing shortage issue, the economist David McWilliams had an interesting take on it on his podcast a few weeks ago.
According to him, among the worst countries in the developed world for housing are the UK, Ireland, Canada, America, Australia and New Zealand. Same issues in all basically: lack of supply, huge rents, insane prices, not enough building with enough density, infrastructure projects always overrunning on time and cost etc.
He puts it down to one factor: these nations all have a version of the Common Law system inherited from the English. McWilliams says this essentially puts the rights of the individual above the common good.
This is the foundation of NIMBYism. So for example in Dublin you have comfortable middle class people with neighbourhood committees objecting to everything (sometimes with good reason in fairness) and hindering development. Basically because of our legal system, a few well-organised and lawyered-up people can stop the development of something that would benefit a much greater number of people.
Perfect example with the proposed Charlemont MetroLink and Ranelagh residents in €2 million + houses trying to block something that would help millions of passengers, make commuting more bearable etc. https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2024/0305/1436165-metrolink/
It's not always the reason and countries without Common Law also struggle with housing at times of course. I don't know how you fix it, but I thought it was an interesting take on it.
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Replying To TheFlaker: "I did. There were 3 or 4 of ye. Are you seriously that delusional you can't even admit when you have clearly made a fool of yourself.
The Galway poster referred to the post from TirChonaill directed at me. Then i responded to that post. That's what happened. Then you jumped in and embarrassed yourself. Rent free xx" What's embarrassing is that you obviously derive some sort or pleasure or self worth from being "right" on here. It's an anonymous forum of people you are never remotely likely to meet in person. Just have a think about that for a second.
Also, you clearly stated last year on this forum you would never engage with me on here again.
How has that worked out for you?
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1036 - 12/11/2024 11:30:05
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Replying To TheBlackDeath: "With the housing shortage issue, the economist David McWilliams had an interesting take on it on his podcast a few weeks ago.
According to him, among the worst countries in the developed world for housing are the UK, Ireland, Canada, America, Australia and New Zealand. Same issues in all basically: lack of supply, huge rents, insane prices, not enough building with enough density, infrastructure projects always overrunning on time and cost etc.
He puts it down to one factor: these nations all have a version of the Common Law system inherited from the English. McWilliams says this essentially puts the rights of the individual above the common good.
This is the foundation of NIMBYism. So for example in Dublin you have comfortable middle class people with neighbourhood committees objecting to everything (sometimes with good reason in fairness) and hindering development. Basically because of our legal system, a few well-organised and lawyered-up people can stop the development of something that would benefit a much greater number of people.
Perfect example with the proposed Charlemont MetroLink and Ranelagh residents in €2 million + houses trying to block something that would help millions of passengers, make commuting more bearable etc. https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2024/0305/1436165-metrolink/
It's not always the reason and countries without Common Law also struggle with housing at times of course. I don't know how you fix it, but I thought it was an interesting take on it." Yes and it should be changed. Heard another discussion on this on another podcast. A lad in Wicklow once successfully blocked a development in Mayo. It's total bull. If your not living beside or in the vicinity of a development then you should have zero say.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11405 - 12/11/2024 11:38:04
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Replying To peiledoir20: "What's embarrassing is that you obviously derive some sort or pleasure or self worth from being "right" on here. It's an anonymous forum of people you are never remotely likely to meet in person. Just have a think about that for a second.
Also, you clearly stated last year on this forum you would never engage with me on here again.
How has that worked out for you?" So now it's my fault that i responded after you jumped on this thread when it wasn't anything to do with you? And then still wouldn't admit to being wrong even after it was pointed out to you... Twice. All the best hun xxx.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 12/11/2024 11:55:14
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Replying To gunman: "I thought you were saying France.Spain and Italy were OK.Of the countries you said were having problems viz Ireland,USA,Canada and Australia I was just saying they were all former colonies of Britain which left me wondering if that was just a coincidence.Holland not in that category of course." Ah ok picked you up wrong. I was saying France, Spain, Italy are OK.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13852 - 12/11/2024 12:24:04
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Replying To yew_tree: "Yes and it should be changed. Heard another discussion on this on another podcast. A lad in Wicklow once successfully blocked a development in Mayo. It's total bull. If your not living beside or in the vicinity of a development then you should have zero say." Two brothers from Mayo were the kings of this caper, but would kindly remove their objection, on receipt of an agreed "consultancy' fee.
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