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Replying To PowellJohn3: "Any New players to be brought in this year:
For me:
Kinnegad: Bracken, Gahan and Liam Daly need to be looked at.
The Downs: have there few, Nolan i would like to see get a proper chance this time round, Burke and Murray were very solid along with Joe Moran.
Lomans: would Geoghan and Gaffney maybe be worth a look
Shamrocks: Dont think Ormsby did enough probably needs another year at 20s, There new player was very consistent cant think of his name outside of that cannot see anyone else.
Killucan: Sam Smyth, the only game i seen of leech was the downs game and i didnt think he performed maybe other games he did well not sure ? Hill is very agile but maybe county wouldnt suit him.
Tpass: Gonoud, Harte the usuals outside of them i dont think anyone. Monaghan
Athlone: SHane allen will feature for westmeath in starting 15 and Ray, outside of those 2 again not sure if they have anyone else.
Moate: Lowry will be brought in and Forde, outside of that cannot see any others.
Shandonagh: Carr has been very solid over last 5 years maybe deserves a crack at it. Scahill.
Tang: Adam neary was tryed and still a big threat, outside of him Jason coughlan is very solid and a good man marker in the half backs, Shane Hanly shows glimpses but dont think has the work ethic for county.
Caulry: Conor mccormack, Senan Baker and thats it, the other Baker needs more time to develop yet and more established fellas playing for kinnegad/ The downs playing better.
Malachys: Corcoran was very good in 2023 but has slipped away since that, The hurlers again for Malachys have performed very well.
Intermediate:
Milltown- Jack Duncan, Jack Murtagh, Conor Dillon have been the stand outs in intermediate.
Tubberclair- Eoghan Mccabe, Fred Kelleher, Whittaker although has not played his best.
Rosemount- David O reilly but will play hurling, others all performed well but no county standouts, Maybe Cox.
Garrycastle- Similar to Rosemount no real standouts apart from the reliables who arent going to go for county, Nugent has impressed but not a county player.
Milltownpass: Brandon Kelly, Finbar coyne after injury doesnt look sharp enough for county, Liam Brennan but team under performed.
Multy: Wallace, McGivney
Other teams i dont think have anyone good enough Bal, Ballymore, St.Marys, Castledaly, Kilbeggan, Maryland has Kieran Martin but i didnt see any games, think his time is done.
Junior: County final will be the only game to judge but cannot see anyone breaking into squad.
Any Goalkeepers stand out across Westmeath, any outfield players worth a look the way the new rules look." adam flanagan
mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1871 - 17/10/2024 13:07:50
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A footballer who really impressed me a couple of times I've watched him this year is Sam Maxwell of Ballymore I believe he was involved with the squad previously and could be worth another look
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Replying To PowellJohn3: "Any New players to be brought in this year:
For me:
Kinnegad: Bracken, Gahan and Liam Daly need to be looked at.
The Downs: have there few, Nolan i would like to see get a proper chance this time round, Burke and Murray were very solid along with Joe Moran.
Lomans: would Geoghan and Gaffney maybe be worth a look
Shamrocks: Dont think Ormsby did enough probably needs another year at 20s, There new player was very consistent cant think of his name outside of that cannot see anyone else.
Killucan: Sam Smyth, the only game i seen of leech was the downs game and i didnt think he performed maybe other games he did well not sure ? Hill is very agile but maybe county wouldnt suit him.
Tpass: Gonoud, Harte the usuals outside of them i dont think anyone. Monaghan
Athlone: SHane allen will feature for westmeath in starting 15 and Ray, outside of those 2 again not sure if they have anyone else.
Moate: Lowry will be brought in and Forde, outside of that cannot see any others.
Shandonagh: Carr has been very solid over last 5 years maybe deserves a crack at it. Scahill.
Tang: Adam neary was tryed and still a big threat, outside of him Jason coughlan is very solid and a good man marker in the half backs, Shane Hanly shows glimpses but dont think has the work ethic for county.
Caulry: Conor mccormack, Senan Baker and thats it, the other Baker needs more time to develop yet and more established fellas playing for kinnegad/ The downs playing better.
Malachys: Corcoran was very good in 2023 but has slipped away since that, The hurlers again for Malachys have performed very well.
Intermediate:
Milltown- Jack Duncan, Jack Murtagh, Conor Dillon have been the stand outs in intermediate.
Tubberclair- Eoghan Mccabe, Fred Kelleher, Whittaker although has not played his best.
Rosemount- David O reilly but will play hurling, others all performed well but no county standouts, Maybe Cox.
Garrycastle- Similar to Rosemount no real standouts apart from the reliables who arent going to go for county, Nugent has impressed but not a county player.
Milltownpass: Brandon Kelly, Finbar coyne after injury doesnt look sharp enough for county, Liam Brennan but team under performed.
Multy: Wallace, McGivney
Other teams i dont think have anyone good enough Bal, Ballymore, St.Marys, Castledaly, Kilbeggan, Maryland has Kieran Martin but i didnt see any games, think his time is done.
Junior: County final will be the only game to judge but cannot see anyone breaking into squad.
Any Goalkeepers stand out across Westmeath, any outfield players worth a look the way the new rules look." We need an injection of new blood every year. But club players are different animals to county players. These are not my words but borrowed from a good article I read recently about strength and conditioning in the GAA. Realistically very few players make the step up to senior inter county straight away and need time to build up before making a breakthrough. Its very much a gradual process unless youre lucky enough to have a David Clifford. Shane Allen for example has been on the squad a couple of years now but he looks ready to make the breakthrough next year. Then there are players getting strength and conditioning coaching in their clubs and therefore are more ready than others. St Lomans having 50 collective gym sessions in the bank before the county final is quite telling. The Downs and Kinnegad look to be putting in the gym work too.
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Replying To mickcunningham: "adam flanagan" Ye good summary there.
Lot clubs hurlers could be footballers in terms malachys I see most choosing the hurling but maybe not.
Morgan gavigan could worth look good hurlers but he could be suited football.
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 517 - 17/10/2024 17:48:30
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Hearing this morning that St. Lomans are changing things up drastically for the replay with 5 impact players on the bench. 3 starters from the drawn game have been changed. They feel they didn't get the impact off the bench last weekend and ultimately that was the difference. That's a big call to make but I have to agree with the reasoning. There was no kick out of Lomans down the final stretch.
WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 18/10/2024 07:58:54
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Replying To PowellJohn3: "Any New players to be brought in this year:
For me:
Kinnegad: Bracken, Gahan and Liam Daly need to be looked at.
The Downs: have there few, Nolan i would like to see get a proper chance this time round, Burke and Murray were very solid along with Joe Moran.
Lomans: would Geoghan and Gaffney maybe be worth a look
Shamrocks: Dont think Ormsby did enough probably needs another year at 20s, There new player was very consistent cant think of his name outside of that cannot see anyone else.
Killucan: Sam Smyth, the only game i seen of leech was the downs game and i didnt think he performed maybe other games he did well not sure ? Hill is very agile but maybe county wouldnt suit him.
Tpass: Gonoud, Harte the usuals outside of them i dont think anyone. Monaghan
Athlone: SHane allen will feature for westmeath in starting 15 and Ray, outside of those 2 again not sure if they have anyone else.
Moate: Lowry will be brought in and Forde, outside of that cannot see any others.
Shandonagh: Carr has been very solid over last 5 years maybe deserves a crack at it. Scahill.
Tang: Adam neary was tryed and still a big threat, outside of him Jason coughlan is very solid and a good man marker in the half backs, Shane Hanly shows glimpses but dont think has the work ethic for county.
Caulry: Conor mccormack, Senan Baker and thats it, the other Baker needs more time to develop yet and more established fellas playing for kinnegad/ The downs playing better.
Malachys: Corcoran was very good in 2023 but has slipped away since that, The hurlers again for Malachys have performed very well.
Intermediate:
Milltown- Jack Duncan, Jack Murtagh, Conor Dillon have been the stand outs in intermediate.
Tubberclair- Eoghan Mccabe, Fred Kelleher, Whittaker although has not played his best.
Rosemount- David O reilly but will play hurling, others all performed well but no county standouts, Maybe Cox.
Garrycastle- Similar to Rosemount no real standouts apart from the reliables who arent going to go for county, Nugent has impressed but not a county player.
Milltownpass: Brandon Kelly, Finbar coyne after injury doesnt look sharp enough for county, Liam Brennan but team under performed.
Multy: Wallace, McGivney
Other teams i dont think have anyone good enough Bal, Ballymore, St.Marys, Castledaly, Kilbeggan, Maryland has Kieran Martin but i didnt see any games, think his time is done.
Junior: County final will be the only game to judge but cannot see anyone breaking into squad.
Any Goalkeepers stand out across Westmeath, any outfield players worth a look the way the new rules look." Great summary anyway.
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 517 - 18/10/2024 09:39:08
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Replying To WmeathWarrior: "Hearing this morning that St. Lomans are changing things up drastically for the replay with 5 impact players on the bench. 3 starters from the drawn game have been changed. They feel they didn't get the impact off the bench last weekend and ultimately that was the difference. That's a big call to make but I have to agree with the reasoning. There was no kick out of Lomans down the final stretch." New to the forum in last couple of weeks, but jaysus what is your source for that because that is some massive changes if true, personally can't see that happening I reckon Lomans will stick with very similar 15 no more then one change
naduntaabu2022 (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 18/10/2024 10:18:58
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Replying To naduntaabu2022: "New to the forum in last couple of weeks, but jaysus what is your source for that because that is some massive changes if true, personally can't see that happening I reckon Lomans will stick with very similar 15 no more then one change" It's a reliable source but whether it happens or not, teams like to throw fake news out I know but this seems like it's happening. Shane Dempsey is also starting which is a big mistake, TJ Cox should start. Dempsey will be at 50% at best, he pulled his hamstring twice in the space of a week. That's just mind blowing. Huge risk.
WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 18/10/2024 11:09:01
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Replying To WmeathWarrior: "Hearing this morning that St. Lomans are changing things up drastically for the replay with 5 impact players on the bench. 3 starters from the drawn game have been changed. They feel they didn't get the impact off the bench last weekend and ultimately that was the difference. That's a big call to make but I have to agree with the reasoning. There was no kick out of Lomans down the final stretch." If I remember correctly, your info on the St Loman's team for the League final was bang on the money. If Dempsey could pull up then better to start him than have him come on and pull up. The Downs wouldn't have the same luxury, a half fit Darragh Egerton was first sub on in semi final and final. They really don't have any squad depth.
iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 18/10/2024 12:02:08
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Replying To iarmhiabu: "If I remember correctly, your info on the St Loman's team for the League final was bang on the money. If Dempsey could pull up then better to start him than have him come on and pull up. The Downs wouldn't have the same luxury, a half fit Darragh Egerton was first sub on in semi final and final. They really don't have any squad depth." My feeling on Dempseys injury is to live to fight another day. You have to trust fit players around you. He won't make it through the game without being A) Well below par and B) Damaging it one way or another. And Leinster around the corner should they win. Everyone wants to play but not at the expense of players like TJ Cox who is fully fit. And a like for like replacement. The last day I thought Peter Foy was a strange replacement for Dempsey, it should have been Cox. Sometimes the honorable thing is to stand aside. Lomans have the star power up front, there's no need to risk that. He is a big loss for Lomans, no doubt about that but a player with a hamstring injury needs to be stood down. Look at Sean Kelly in the All Ireland final this year, he said in an interview that he could have played but he had trust in his teammates, and that's what needs to happen with Dempsey. I'm sure it's the management pushing him to play but at the end of the day he needs to make the decision. Interested to see how it plays out for him and Lomans should he start.
WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 18/10/2024 12:15:47
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Replying To WmeathWarrior: "My feeling on Dempseys injury is to live to fight another day. You have to trust fit players around you. He won't make it through the game without being A) Well below par and B) Damaging it one way or another. And Leinster around the corner should they win. Everyone wants to play but not at the expense of players like TJ Cox who is fully fit. And a like for like replacement. The last day I thought Peter Foy was a strange replacement for Dempsey, it should have been Cox. Sometimes the honorable thing is to stand aside. Lomans have the star power up front, there's no need to risk that. He is a big loss for Lomans, no doubt about that but a player with a hamstring injury needs to be stood down. Look at Sean Kelly in the All Ireland final this year, he said in an interview that he could have played but he had trust in his teammates, and that's what needs to happen with Dempsey. I'm sure it's the management pushing him to play but at the end of the day he needs to make the decision. Interested to see how it plays out for him and Lomans should he start." Not doubting your sources at all. My own thought was that Dempsey would be out but if they think he might be able then it's best to start him and if it goes after 5 mins so be it. I would have thought TJ Cox or Kelvin Reilly (dropping back) would come in for Foy. Cant really see anybody else being dropped. Regan and Flanagan were poor enough but still can't see them being taken out
Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 172 - 18/10/2024 12:47:55
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Replying To WmeathWarrior: "My feeling on Dempseys injury is to live to fight another day. You have to trust fit players around you. He won't make it through the game without being A) Well below par and B) Damaging it one way or another. And Leinster around the corner should they win. Everyone wants to play but not at the expense of players like TJ Cox who is fully fit. And a like for like replacement. The last day I thought Peter Foy was a strange replacement for Dempsey, it should have been Cox. Sometimes the honorable thing is to stand aside. Lomans have the star power up front, there's no need to risk that. He is a big loss for Lomans, no doubt about that but a player with a hamstring injury needs to be stood down. Look at Sean Kelly in the All Ireland final this year, he said in an interview that he could have played but he had trust in his teammates, and that's what needs to happen with Dempsey. I'm sure it's the management pushing him to play but at the end of the day he needs to make the decision. Interested to see how it plays out for him and Lomans should he start." It's a big call to play Dempsey or not. He has nearly always stood out for St Loman's on big days. He kicked seven points from play in one of the finals against Tyrrellspass. They will be doing everything they can to get him even half right. The St Loman's star power you talk about wasn't getting the supply they would have wanted in the drawn game. More balls went in over the end line. Did Danny Mc even get his hands on the ball before his point in the second half, Ronan O'Toole wasn't in the game either. They lacked punch in the forward line.
iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 18/10/2024 13:03:40
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Replying To Bluelake: "Not doubting your sources at all. My own thought was that Dempsey would be out but if they think he might be able then it's best to start him and if it goes after 5 mins so be it. I would have thought TJ Cox or Kelvin Reilly (dropping back) would come in for Foy. Cant really see anybody else being dropped. Regan and Flanagan were poor enough but still can't see them being taken out" Agreed. If Dempsey can play at all, he should start so you're not wasting a sub if he comes on and gets hurt again. Regan and Flanagan have brilliant pace and workrate, they'll need to start. I can see Foy being dropped too. Was too wasteful the last day giving the ball away 3/4 times. You can't do that at this level. Tj may start but didn't do much the last day. Can see him being better this time round.
Egerton might start for the downs, only if fit. Cant see any other changes for them. Mitchell wasn't at much so I'm expecting a big final from him. Should be a tight final but I expect a Lomans win by 2 points.
YellowandGold14 (Longford) - Posts: 5 - 18/10/2024 13:24:23
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Replying To Bluelake: "Not doubting your sources at all. My own thought was that Dempsey would be out but if they think he might be able then it's best to start him and if it goes after 5 mins so be it. I would have thought TJ Cox or Kelvin Reilly (dropping back) would come in for Foy. Cant really see anybody else being dropped. Regan and Flanagan were poor enough but still can't see them being taken out" Peter Foy is back on the bench but in my opinion he's done serious damage coming in from there and suits him better. Having words of the Dowdall the last day put a stop to any chances of him starting this time regardless. I've always maintained that he is a far better wing back and not a wing forward. Flanagan holds his place but both Regan and Gaffney have dropped to the bench which means that they now have a bench of TJ Cox, Peter Foy, Enda Gaffney, Kevin Regan and Nathan Lally. We can see what they are going for there. Those lads will all run riot coming fresh into the game.
WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 18/10/2024 13:37:33
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That St Lomans team news is crazy if true, but it's hard to see Shane Dempsey been back after a week . Hamstrings don't heal in a week. But what are everyone's thoughts does that hand the downs an advantage or is it 4D chess from Lomans that they've a bench to prize the game away in the final quarter… it really throws the cat among the pigeons.
TheGaaMan77 (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 18/10/2024 14:00:38
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It would be an incredible recovery if Shane D plays as he was visibly limping after the game last Sunday. His game depends on his speed so he can't be minding his leg. His presence and playing 45-50 mins would be major plus.
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 18/10/2024 14:01:43
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Replying To WmeathWarrior: "Peter Foy is back on the bench but in my opinion he's done serious damage coming in from there and suits him better. Having words of the Dowdall the last day put a stop to any chances of him starting this time regardless. I've always maintained that he is a far better wing back and not a wing forward. Flanagan holds his place but both Regan and Gaffney have dropped to the bench which means that they now have a bench of TJ Cox, Peter Foy, Enda Gaffney, Kevin Regan and Nathan Lally. We can see what they are going for there. Those lads will all run riot coming fresh into the game." Your a disgrace posting up info which you say is true from whoever your source is before a county final, obviously no truth behind it as why would lomans be making all those changes pulling info out of your ****
naduntaabu2022 (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 18/10/2024 14:49:09
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Replying To WmeathWarrior: "Peter Foy is back on the bench but in my opinion he's done serious damage coming in from there and suits him better. Having words of the Dowdall the last day put a stop to any chances of him starting this time regardless. I've always maintained that he is a far better wing back and not a wing forward. Flanagan holds his place but both Regan and Gaffney have dropped to the bench which means that they now have a bench of TJ Cox, Peter Foy, Enda Gaffney, Kevin Regan and Nathan Lally. We can see what they are going for there. Those lads will all run riot coming fresh into the game." Run riot? Lads dropped from last Sunday running riot six days later!!!!!
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 18/10/2024 15:04:59
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Think Garrycastle will have too much for a young Milltown side but think it'll be tight. You'd imagine the Garrycastle experience will get them over the line.
Kind of similar in Junior think CFCW will get the job done, Joseph's are a strange team, all their games seem to go to the wire and they give their supporters a roller coaster ride. Really hope Joseph's get it done for their sake but think CFCW will get over the line.
Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 172 - 18/10/2024 15:13:10
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Replying To naduntaabu2022: "Your a disgrace posting up info which you say is true from whoever your source is before a county final, obviously no truth behind it as why would lomans be making all those changes pulling info out of your ****" A disgrace for posting information on a forum used for posting information and discussing it?? That team news is 100% valid, you'll know tomorrow anyway either way I won't be getting personal with you. Seems far fetched in your eyes but that's your opinion. Before very final team news is open to the public and discussed. That's part of the build up to a game of football. But you might know better when the teams are lined up tomorrow. I'm more than entitled to share what I know and discuss it will the others on this page who find it interesting and enjoyable to analyse.
WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 18/10/2024 15:37:09
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