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Replying To Keephimthere:  "How did Manorhamilton get on in the LGFA semi?"
Not good. But we are not allowed talk about it on this forum. It seems. Discussions have been blocked and removed by admin for some reason.

Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 169 - 03/11/2024 11:43:33    2578065

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Replying To sillyjambon12:  "Certainly. J Barnes for Marys and J McGloin of Melvin Gaels were used as subs for the majority of the season with their respective clubs. While McGloin had good contributions off the bench I don't know is it really a county level standard. Granted he is good enough for u20 I'll say that.
But can you really tell me that bringing in 2/3 players from clubs in junior or competing in junior will bring a competitiveness to the county set up. Not discriminating on the little clubs but I just dont think some of those players are at that level. I understand inclusion of every club is important but we have to be realists here and ask how many of those players would contribute greatly to the county?"
Mcgloin has been nursing a knee injury all year. Wasn't allowed full minutes

Leitrimman05 (Leitrim) - Posts: 9 - 03/11/2024 12:46:42    2578084

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Replying To Backheel:  "Not good. But we are not allowed talk about it on this forum. It seems. Discussions have been blocked and removed by admin for some reason."
What? No they aren't. Or at least I don't believe you. I for one would normally pop in fairly quick with a result, but look, it was just a bad day at the office for the girls, they were understrength with some of the Leitrim contingent off on a well-deserved holiday after doing the county proud over the summer, and they were facing the might of the reigning All-Ireland champions. I'm sure the last thing they or anyone else wants is to have their noses rubbed on it here on the Leitrim forum, and I certainly wasn't going to be crowing about the result when it's freely available wherever you want it online and the when the question was only asked to stir, and by an outsider too.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1122 - 03/11/2024 13:47:13    2578098

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "What? No they aren't. Or at least I don't believe you. I for one would normally pop in fairly quick with a result, but look, it was just a bad day at the office for the girls, they were understrength with some of the Leitrim contingent off on a well-deserved holiday after doing the county proud over the summer, and they were facing the might of the reigning All-Ireland champions. I'm sure the last thing they or anyone else wants is to have their noses rubbed on it here on the Leitrim forum, and I certainly wasn't going to be crowing about the result when it's freely available wherever you want it online and the when the question was only asked to stir, and by an outsider too."
Hi Tacai, I was talking about the conversation about the game and the Leitrim girls not being available. I had post put up and taken done when I wondered how it got to that. There were also a post that admin didn't put up. I don't know why. I am curious about how the situation arose that's all and I genuinely have no skin in the game. If it was in men's game it would be national news.

Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 169 - 03/11/2024 14:38:11    2578105

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Replying To JimmyNail:  "Who's dipper? And Conor and Jordan Reynolds not brothers not even same club. If true about Rooney huge loss though"
Dipper has given his best years at this stage. Wayne Mc Keon should be begged back. Awful pity he wasn't kept involved throughout his life. Outstanding passer of the ball and hard as nails too.

TJH (Sligo) - Posts: 55 - 04/11/2024 09:15:19    2578271

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Replying To coldfeet:  "Rooney is also transferring back to Melvin Gaels , additionally Paul Brennan & Emyln Mulligan rejoining Melvin Gaels also, Former Donegal U20 Manager Franice Martin & Frank Mc Glynn taking over Melvin Gaels."
Does this mean Mulligan won't be in charge of Fenagh next year or will he not be playing senior football?

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 04/11/2024 12:56:31    2578314

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "Does this mean Mulligan won't be in charge of Fenagh next year or will he not be playing senior football?"
Surely mulligan will keep on managing Fenagh, decent gig for him for his first year as a manger one would think.

williesboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 417 - 04/11/2024 14:56:21    2578337

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Replying To Dodgy_Pass:  "Given the new management, here are some players across the U20/Senior grade I think they should bring in, have a few in house games like the recent interpros similar to what Andy did at the beginning of his term. Some are current co players, some are not. Definitely one or two in every club to look at. Some should be co players but haven't shown the interest and likely won't. Some would be co players and younger players would have to out perform decent club players in the trial games to be considered. Would be a worthwhile exercise to identify late developing talent outside the traditional County Squad Structure. Bearing in mind collective training doesn't start til December, of course.

Aughavas: Éanna McNamara, Darren Shortt
Allen Gaels: Tobin, Moran, McMorrow, Duffy, Oberwans X 2
Annaduff: D Cox, Eoin Gill, S Mooney, C Reynolds
Aughnasheelin: Darragh Gunn, Fintan Fitz, Cillian Cullen
Aughawillan: T Plunkett, G Plunkett,
Bornacoola: Jonny Boyle, A Mulligan
Ballinaglera: J McGrail, W Reynolds, P McGourty
Ballinamore: Maxwell, McBrien, K McHugh, D McGovern, Morans X 2, Prior, Honeyman, McManus,
Carrigallen: P McCann, C Kiernan, É Ward
Cloone: B Donohoe, C Keegan,
Dromahair: M Feeney, A Gethins, J Clinton, J Clancy
Drumreilly: P Prior
Drumkeerin:  F Davitt, D Maguire, C McCauley, C McPartland, J Gallagher
Eslin: J McNabola, C Beirne
Fenagh: C Dwyer, Ó Rourkes x 2, C McLoughlin, F McLoughlin, D McLoughlin, É McLoughlin
Gortletteragh: B Naughton, R Cunningham, O Niblock
Glencar Manor: É Sweeney, S Sheridan, T Hughes, J Kelly, B McNulty
Glenfarne Kilty: ?
Kiltubrid: J Foley, S McLoughlin,  F O'Brien
Leitrim Gaels: D Casey, S Goldrick, A Flynn, J Flynn, P Flynn
Mohill: J Rowley, D.Mitchell, Harkins X 2, Quinns X 2, Flynn, Beirne, Reynolds,
Melvin Gaels: C&J McGloin, C Clancy, Liam Ryan, Kieran Clancy
St Mary's: Gaffey, A Reynolds, C Hackett, D Kelleher, G Reynolds, C Singleton, Keaneys x 2, Diffley, O Bohan,  Barnes x 2"
Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.

Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.

I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.

A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too.

DontMindMe (Leitrim) - Posts: 5 - 04/11/2024 16:13:34    2578357

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Replying To Dodgy_Pass:  "Given the new management, here are some players across the U20/Senior grade I think they should bring in, have a few in house games like the recent interpros similar to what Andy did at the beginning of his term. Some are current co players, some are not. Definitely one or two in every club to look at. Some should be co players but haven't shown the interest and likely won't. Some would be co players and younger players would have to out perform decent club players in the trial games to be considered. Would be a worthwhile exercise to identify late developing talent outside the traditional County Squad Structure. Bearing in mind collective training doesn't start til December, of course.

Aughavas: Éanna McNamara, Darren Shortt
Allen Gaels: Tobin, Moran, McMorrow, Duffy, Oberwans X 2
Annaduff: D Cox, Eoin Gill, S Mooney, C Reynolds
Aughnasheelin: Darragh Gunn, Fintan Fitz, Cillian Cullen
Aughawillan: T Plunkett, G Plunkett,
Bornacoola: Jonny Boyle, A Mulligan
Ballinaglera: J McGrail, W Reynolds, P McGourty
Ballinamore: Maxwell, McBrien, K McHugh, D McGovern, Morans X 2, Prior, Honeyman, McManus,
Carrigallen: P McCann, C Kiernan, É Ward
Cloone: B Donohoe, C Keegan,
Dromahair: M Feeney, A Gethins, J Clinton, J Clancy
Drumreilly: P Prior
Drumkeerin:  F Davitt, D Maguire, C McCauley, C McPartland, J Gallagher
Eslin: J McNabola, C Beirne
Fenagh: C Dwyer, Ó Rourkes x 2, C McLoughlin, F McLoughlin, D McLoughlin, É McLoughlin
Gortletteragh: B Naughton, R Cunningham, O Niblock
Glencar Manor: É Sweeney, S Sheridan, T Hughes, J Kelly, B McNulty
Glenfarne Kilty: ?
Kiltubrid: J Foley, S McLoughlin,  F O'Brien
Leitrim Gaels: D Casey, S Goldrick, A Flynn, J Flynn, P Flynn
Mohill: J Rowley, D.Mitchell, Harkins X 2, Quinns X 2, Flynn, Beirne, Reynolds,
Melvin Gaels: C&J McGloin, C Clancy, Liam Ryan, Kieran Clancy
St Mary's: Gaffey, A Reynolds, C Hackett, D Kelleher, G Reynolds, C Singleton, Keaneys x 2, Diffley, O Bohan,  Barnes x 2"
Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.

Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.

I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.

A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too.

DontMindMe (Leitrim) - Posts: 5 - 04/11/2024 16:31:24    2578363

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Replying To williesboy:  "Surely mulligan will keep on managing Fenagh, decent gig for him for his first year as a manger one would think."
He's gone already and a new manager is in

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 343 - 04/11/2024 17:44:03    2578376

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Replying To williesboy:  "Surely mulligan will keep on managing Fenagh, decent gig for him for his first year as a manger one would think."
i think its Bobby O'Rourke with Fenagh.

meathbasedfan (Leitrim) - Posts: 124 - 04/11/2024 18:01:12    2578384

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Replying To DontMindMe:  "Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.

Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.

I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.

A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too."
For the sake of clarity, so as not to upset any more esteemed posters, I would draw attention to the first part of my offending post where I did say that those names would merit being called in for a few in house games like the recent interpros, not for automatic inclusion onto a panel or even an extended panel, and also that the idea of it would be that any young player early 20s etc would have to perform well on a good club footballer in a couple of trial games to see is he worth consideration long term?

On another point, just because some lads don't start for the club doesn't mean the should be excluded from selection, in particular, Mohill, Ballinamore, and St Mary's have players who don't always make their starting 15 but have been on U20 teams this year and last, and others have the size / strength required to make it at inter county level. Naturally for the majority of cases starting for your club would be a prerequisite but in a county like ours with the numbers we're working off dismissing a player on that score is lowest common denominator stuff altogether.

It's all academic anyway, given Barry McWeeney and to a lesser extent Jones are providing continuity such exercises won't be needed, but Andy Moran cast a much wider net than that with 80+ players trialled over two nights when he was appointed first to get a good feel for what was in the county, and if a new appointment at senior level isn't a good time to restock the shelves, then you'd wonder what's the point?

As regards some of your own observations, - I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed. - The "early league games" are in late May and early June, by which time Leitrim have already finished their main competition i.e. the NFL, and Connacht. Not sure what use bringing in players to the panel at that late stage of the inter county year would be.
- If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. - Leitrim teams down the years have always contained representation from teams who were never in with a shout of winning a Senior

A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. - I'd think you'd find my initial hypothetical situation would result in that anyways, but if Ballinamore are by your logic expected to contribute towards "15 county standard players", they only managed to contribute Tom Prior for the majority of 2024? You also have the case of players like the Harkins who are tailor made for the inter county game but are consistently happy to remain club players? Just because 2+ clubs have the ability to backbone a senior side, doesn't mean they will. Abbeylara won a championship over the border with 2 county players, and may only have 4 on next years panel so that doesnt hold much water?

open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - a lovely idea in theory, but I've never heard tell of it in any county at adult level, unless it's Masters.

As for my genuinely awful ball knowledge, I'm sorry if I left your name off my initial list!

Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 380 - 04/11/2024 18:10:22    2578385

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Replying To DontMindMe:  "Fair play for taking the time to compile the list but you could've spent it much better by doing some proper research. Genuinely awful ball knowledge.

Named two lads from my own club that aren't guaranteed starters amongst several others that shouldn't be near a county set up as would rarely (if at all) be stand out for their clubs. In an ideal world, the county manager would go and watch the junior final, intermediate quarter/semi onwards and senior quarter/semi onwards and make their decision on players based off that. I also think selectors/representatives should attend early league games to spot talent throughout the year particularly in division 1 and division 2 and the panel should not be closed.

I am from a mid sized club and therefore do not have a "big-club" bias but feel If a team doesn't make it to the knockout stages, it is extremely unlikely they have a county grade player in their ranks particularly in intermediate or junior - never mind teams being relegated from their respective grades. It is also irrelevant if they were good underage players - it often doesn't translate up to senior as different distractions come into play and therefore players shouldn't be "invited" into county panels unless its on merit based off their performances for their senior club teams - I could think of a few named above for example.

A county team should be backboned by the senior championship finalists of which Mohill/Ballinamore easily harbour 15 county standard players between them as do Fenagh and St Mary's. Thereafter, you go through the most competitive teams and/or standout players in the different grades and fill in the panel accordingly or even have open trials that players can elect to attend opposed to being invited - you wouldn't be long halving the the above list and finding a few more worthy players too."
So going by your logic the like of Jack McCarron shouldn't have received a call up to the Monaghan team when he was playing junior club football in Monaghan with his club Currin, but now that he has transferred to Scotstown and won a senior champ he's good to go??

Such nonsense. The county team should be based off the best players in the county irregardless of the level of club football they play. Several junior and intermediate clubs don't progress in their championships but often have one or more outstanding players on their team.

David Clifford played junior club football and now plays intermediate for Fossa. What Kerry have that we don't is divisional teams for these junior and intermediate players to go up against senior level opposition in their club championships and see how they fare.

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 667 - 04/11/2024 18:54:53    2578393

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