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Ward's obvious insecurity is a very Irish thing. When anyone - Mr. Ward or anybody else - proclaims that his sport is better than your sport, what they're really saying is that they have better taste than you, ergo, a superior person to you.
If you've lived in other countries for extended periods, the snobbishness of Irish society is always startling when you re-encounter it. Dublin, for instance, is much more snobbish than London. That's because we're all much of a muchness, and the little displays of one-upmanship become, in the minds of some Irish people, desperately important. That's why, to boost car sales, Irish car regs are updated twice yearly, to give more opportunities for boasting about your registration plate, lol. Tuppence-ha'penny looking down on tuppence. Truly confident people are above petty put-downs.
The more you learn about any sport, the more interesting it becomes. Few things are as tedious as this childish and mean-spirited sporting snobbery, where otherwise sensible adults make eejits of themselves trying to elevate one sport over another. I've tried a lot of sports (Gaelic football, soccer, handball, tennis, squash, karate, boxing, cycling, swimming, car rallying, skiing, running, and twice, albeit disastrously, cricket) and been cheerfully absolute rubbish at most of them. But I enjoyed them all, and still manage to enjoy some of them. One thing I did learn was that all sports are great, and achieving excellence in any sport is very difficult. Anyone who truly loves sport has time for all sports, and anyone dissing other sports is not only revealing themselves to be insecure, bitter and ignorant, but also that they're also woefully ignorant of the finer points of the sports they're being snobbish about.
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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Ward's obvious insecurity is a very Irish thing. When anyone - Mr. Ward or anybody else - proclaims that his sport is better than your sport, what they're really saying is that they have better taste than you, ergo, a superior person to you.
If you've lived in other countries for extended periods, the snobbishness of Irish society is always startling when you re-encounter it. Dublin, for instance, is much more snobbish than London. That's because we're all much of a muchness, and the little displays of one-upmanship become, in the minds of some Irish people, desperately important. That's why, to boost car sales, Irish car regs are updated twice yearly, to give more opportunities for boasting about your registration plate, lol. Tuppence-ha'penny looking down on tuppence. Truly confident people are above petty put-downs.
The more you learn about any sport, the more interesting it becomes. Few things are as tedious as this childish and mean-spirited sporting snobbery, where otherwise sensible adults make eejits of themselves trying to elevate one sport over another. I've tried a lot of sports (Gaelic football, soccer, handball, tennis, squash, karate, boxing, cycling, swimming, car rallying, skiing, running, and twice, albeit disastrously, cricket) and been cheerfully absolute rubbish at most of them. But I enjoyed them all, and still manage to enjoy some of them. One thing I did learn was that all sports are great, and achieving excellence in any sport is very difficult. Anyone who truly loves sport has time for all sports, and anyone dissing other sports is not only revealing themselves to be insecure, bitter and ignorant, but also that they're also woefully ignorant of the finer points of the sports they're being snobbish about." Great post Points50s.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7582 - 25/09/2024 09:08:19
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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Ward's obvious insecurity is a very Irish thing. When anyone - Mr. Ward or anybody else - proclaims that his sport is better than your sport, what they're really saying is that they have better taste than you, ergo, a superior person to you.
If you've lived in other countries for extended periods, the snobbishness of Irish society is always startling when you re-encounter it. Dublin, for instance, is much more snobbish than London. That's because we're all much of a muchness, and the little displays of one-upmanship become, in the minds of some Irish people, desperately important. That's why, to boost car sales, Irish car regs are updated twice yearly, to give more opportunities for boasting about your registration plate, lol. Tuppence-ha'penny looking down on tuppence. Truly confident people are above petty put-downs.
The more you learn about any sport, the more interesting it becomes. Few things are as tedious as this childish and mean-spirited sporting snobbery, where otherwise sensible adults make eejits of themselves trying to elevate one sport over another. I've tried a lot of sports (Gaelic football, soccer, handball, tennis, squash, karate, boxing, cycling, swimming, car rallying, skiing, running, and twice, albeit disastrously, cricket) and been cheerfully absolute rubbish at most of them. But I enjoyed them all, and still manage to enjoy some of them. One thing I did learn was that all sports are great, and achieving excellence in any sport is very difficult. Anyone who truly loves sport has time for all sports, and anyone dissing other sports is not only revealing themselves to be insecure, bitter and ignorant, but also that they're also woefully ignorant of the finer points of the sports they're being snobbish about." Ammm.....haven't UK number plates been updated twice a year for far longer than it's been happening that way here?
That system only started here in 2013.
Whatever about the other points you make, how often car registration plates are updated seems an odd thing to hone in on.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2487 - 25/09/2024 09:45:14
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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Ward's obvious insecurity is a very Irish thing. When anyone - Mr. Ward or anybody else - proclaims that his sport is better than your sport, what they're really saying is that they have better taste than you, ergo, a superior person to you.
If you've lived in other countries for extended periods, the snobbishness of Irish society is always startling when you re-encounter it. Dublin, for instance, is much more snobbish than London. That's because we're all much of a muchness, and the little displays of one-upmanship become, in the minds of some Irish people, desperately important. That's why, to boost car sales, Irish car regs are updated twice yearly, to give more opportunities for boasting about your registration plate, lol. Tuppence-ha'penny looking down on tuppence. Truly confident people are above petty put-downs.
The more you learn about any sport, the more interesting it becomes. Few things are as tedious as this childish and mean-spirited sporting snobbery, where otherwise sensible adults make eejits of themselves trying to elevate one sport over another. I've tried a lot of sports (Gaelic football, soccer, handball, tennis, squash, karate, boxing, cycling, swimming, car rallying, skiing, running, and twice, albeit disastrously, cricket) and been cheerfully absolute rubbish at most of them. But I enjoyed them all, and still manage to enjoy some of them. One thing I did learn was that all sports are great, and achieving excellence in any sport is very difficult. Anyone who truly loves sport has time for all sports, and anyone dissing other sports is not only revealing themselves to be insecure, bitter and ignorant, but also that they're also woefully ignorant of the finer points of the sports they're being snobbish about." Amazing post.
One thing I've found later in life is people who are truly successful don't need to boast.
The ones that shout the loudest feel they have the most to prove.
It's sort of an easy excuse but that's the hangover of our history.
We've gone from conquered to "look how great I am" in a relatively short space of time. David McWilliams refers to it as "the good room mentality" and argued that it massively impacted our approach to the IMF and the Troika.
I heard a story about my grandparents having the parish priest over for dinner in the 60s. Dinner was held in the parlour, which had the best furniture, Delf etc. On display.
When my uncle, about 10 at the time picked up his knife and fork he asked my grandfather "who owns these?".
He'd never seen them... nobody within the family had ever been allowed on the parlour......
I think it sums up the psychology of our people quite nicely. Of course he'd boast about his BMW now... He spent his life being taught he wasn't good enough to go into the front room.
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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Ward's obvious insecurity is a very Irish thing. When anyone - Mr. Ward or anybody else - proclaims that his sport is better than your sport, what they're really saying is that they have better taste than you, ergo, a superior person to you.
If you've lived in other countries for extended periods, the snobbishness of Irish society is always startling when you re-encounter it. Dublin, for instance, is much more snobbish than London. That's because we're all much of a muchness, and the little displays of one-upmanship become, in the minds of some Irish people, desperately important. That's why, to boost car sales, Irish car regs are updated twice yearly, to give more opportunities for boasting about your registration plate, lol. Tuppence-ha'penny looking down on tuppence. Truly confident people are above petty put-downs.
The more you learn about any sport, the more interesting it becomes. Few things are as tedious as this childish and mean-spirited sporting snobbery, where otherwise sensible adults make eejits of themselves trying to elevate one sport over another. I've tried a lot of sports (Gaelic football, soccer, handball, tennis, squash, karate, boxing, cycling, swimming, car rallying, skiing, running, and twice, albeit disastrously, cricket) and been cheerfully absolute rubbish at most of them. But I enjoyed them all, and still manage to enjoy some of them. One thing I did learn was that all sports are great, and achieving excellence in any sport is very difficult. Anyone who truly loves sport has time for all sports, and anyone dissing other sports is not only revealing themselves to be insecure, bitter and ignorant, but also that they're also woefully ignorant of the finer points of the sports they're being snobbish about." Great post
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13407 - 25/09/2024 10:18:59
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Ammm.....haven't UK number plates been updated twice a year for far longer than it's been happening that way here?
That system only started here in 2013.
Whatever about the other points you make, how often car registration plates are updated seems an odd thing to hone in on." Sure we couldn't let the Brits outdo us! I think there's a bit of truth in it though, sadly. And people trying to keep up with the Jones's on Facebook, Instagram, etc showing where they are on holidays, what clothes they bought, where they had dinner and boasting about the exbortitant money they spent on the food. Competitive narcisissm.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7582 - 25/09/2024 10:45:25
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Ammm.....haven't UK number plates been updated twice a year for far longer than it's been happening that way here?
That system only started here in 2013.
Whatever about the other points you make, how often car registration plates are updated seems an odd thing to hone in on." Yes but the Brits don't feel the need to put the year on theirs:-D
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13407 - 25/09/2024 11:11:51
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Amazing post.
One thing I've found later in life is people who are truly successful don't need to boast.
The ones that shout the loudest feel they have the most to prove.
It's sort of an easy excuse but that's the hangover of our history.
We've gone from conquered to "look how great I am" in a relatively short space of time. David McWilliams refers to it as "the good room mentality" and argued that it massively impacted our approach to the IMF and the Troika.
I heard a story about my grandparents having the parish priest over for dinner in the 60s. Dinner was held in the parlour, which had the best furniture, Delf etc. On display.
When my uncle, about 10 at the time picked up his knife and fork he asked my grandfather "who owns these?".
He'd never seen them... nobody within the family had ever been allowed on the parlour......
I think it sums up the psychology of our people quite nicely. Of course he'd boast about his BMW now... He spent his life being taught he wasn't good enough to go into the front room." Back in the 90s out around here alot of lads were working in England. A good few used to hire the biggest car they could afford to come home at Christmas in, and save or borrow money to throw around in the pub, while telling all and sundry how well they were doing, and how they didn't owe any HP on the car:-D
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13407 - 25/09/2024 11:16:49
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Replying To Viking66: "Yes but the Brits don't feel the need to put the year on theirs:-D" That's incorrect. They do have the year on the number plates. The two digits after the first two letters is the age identifier, it gives the year and the six-month period (different to ours as it starts in March).
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Replying To Viking66: "Yes but the Brits don't feel the need to put the year on theirs:-D" You're only partly correct. British number plates this year had a 24 for their registration period March 2024 - August 2024. They've now moved to 74 for the period September 2024 - February 2025. Then they'll go on to 25, then 75, then 26, 76, 27, 77, and so on.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out that a 74 is newer than a 24, that a 73 is newer than a 21, or that a 22 is newer than a 71. And I'd wager that anyone in the UK who's used to seeing those number plates every day can instantly work out how old a car is, in the same way we can do with the system we use here.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2487 - 25/09/2024 13:22:41
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Replying To Pikeman96: "You're only partly correct. British number plates this year had a 24 for their registration period March 2024 - August 2024. They've now moved to 74 for the period September 2024 - February 2025. Then they'll go on to 25, then 75, then 26, 76, 27, 77, and so on.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out that a 74 is newer than a 24, that a 73 is newer than a 21, or that a 22 is newer than a 71. And I'd wager that anyone in the UK who's used to seeing those number plates every day can instantly work out how old a car is, in the same way we can do with the system we use here." 6 Cos reg. nos. don't have a year in them.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1832 - 25/09/2024 13:45:38
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Replying To Pikeman96: "You're only partly correct. British number plates this year had a 24 for their registration period March 2024 - August 2024. They've now moved to 74 for the period September 2024 - February 2025. Then they'll go on to 25, then 75, then 26, 76, 27, 77, and so on.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out that a 74 is newer than a 24, that a 73 is newer than a 21, or that a 22 is newer than a 71. And I'd wager that anyone in the UK who's used to seeing those number plates every day can instantly work out how old a car is, in the same way we can do with the system we use here." He's 100% correct.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7582 - 25/09/2024 13:52:14
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After all sure isn't the Irish Rugby team the "team of us"
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2054 - 25/09/2024 14:07:28
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Replying To TerraPovera: "That's incorrect. They do have the year on the number plates. The two digits after the first two letters is the age identifier, it gives the year and the six-month period (different to ours as it starts in March)." If you are going to be really pedantic then you may as well be correct. British model year starts in September not March.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13407 - 25/09/2024 14:53:51
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Who'd have thought the British vehicle registration plate system would become such a heated topic here????? :)
Maybe we just leave it at recognising that they have a system too where a vehicle's registration plate can instantly tell you how new or old it is.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2487 - 25/09/2024 15:12:47
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Replying To Viking66: "If you are going to be really pedantic then you may as well be correct. British model year starts in September not March." Just being accurate. The discussion is around number plates and the year changes in March. So, for 2024/25:
March 1st - August 31st, the Plate Numbers are 24.
September 1st - February 28th, the Plate Numbers are 74.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Who'd have thought the British vehicle registration plate system would become such a heated topic here????? :)
Maybe we just leave it at recognising that they have a system too where a vehicle's registration plate can instantly tell you how new or old it is." Was only slagging you Pikeman. The Itish registration system doesn't have the year on the plate either!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7582 - 25/09/2024 16:49:26
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The British number plate system seems stupid to me, why start the new year reg's in March? our system at least makes sense, what's the story with reg numbers in the 6 counties?
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2957 - 25/09/2024 18:19:46
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "The British number plate system seems stupid to me, why start the new year reg's in March? our system at least makes sense, what's the story with reg numbers in the 6 counties?" Is it because of the tax year there I wonder?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7582 - 25/09/2024 20:27:07
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "The British number plate system seems stupid to me, why start the new year reg's in March? our system at least makes sense, what's the story with reg numbers in the 6 counties?" They still have the old system we had pre 1988 that dates back to before partition. Geographic prefixes/suffixes. Wexford was MI or ZR, Fermanagh was IL and still is.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13407 - 25/09/2024 21:18:16
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