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Replying To Saynothing:  "Again you slabbering , me no slabbering. Can't wait for Ulster finals in a new ground where you don't get clothes ripped on seats."
You be waiting a long time to see an Ulster Final with less than 20,000, which is what Casement will hold when it eventually gets done. At least Clones is not like playing on a swamp like Omagh.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 606 - 11/06/2025 22:25:03    2616796

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Replying To Wally:  "Fantastic!

£250,000,000 to build a stadium that will be empty almost all year round, will cause huge logistical problems for the majority of gaels in Ulster and has almost zero support from local residents."
True. That money would've been better spent getting hurling established in every club and school in Ulster.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16293 - 12/06/2025 06:53:24    2616822

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The artists rendition of the proposed stadium on the main page here makes it look like a medical devices factory, not v inspiring

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 352 - 12/06/2025 08:22:49    2616833

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I'd imagine they'll be renting it out for concerts and all sorts, the GAA are good at getting money in.
What obligation is on the British Gov anyway to fund a GAA stadium? honest question."
Well quite simply there are plenty of GAA supporting taxpayers paying into UK tax coffers, not just in the north, but all over Britain too.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 352 - 12/06/2025 08:53:44    2616838

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Replying To Wally:  "Fantastic!

£250,000,000 to build a stadium that will be empty almost all year round, will cause huge logistical problems for the majority of gaels in Ulster and has almost zero support from local residents."
This is Ulster's stadium, not Antrim's. The same accusations around not being full much of the time could be levelled at Croke Park. It could host All Ireland qualifiers involving Ulster teams, All Ireland QFs, even more. Can we not have a bit of a vision? Solidifying the status of gaelic games in Ulster for years to come? Growing the game in Ireland's second city? That's one of the prizes here.

Aoife1234 (Antrim) - Posts: 19 - 12/06/2025 08:57:44    2616840

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "You be waiting a long time to see an Ulster Final with less than 20,000, which is what Casement will hold when it eventually gets done. At least Clones is not like playing on a swamp like Omagh."
Clones is a great ground.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16293 - 12/06/2025 09:04:51    2616842

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Replying To Aoife1234:  "This is Ulster's stadium, not Antrim's. The same accusations around not being full much of the time could be levelled at Croke Park. It could host All Ireland qualifiers involving Ulster teams, All Ireland QFs, even more. Can we not have a bit of a vision? Solidifying the status of gaelic games in Ulster for years to come? Growing the game in Ireland's second city? That's one of the prizes here."
How will that park grow gaelic games in Belfast? Wouldn't that money being spent in the city on redeveloping current club pitches and building new ones where needed and the introduction of more hurling coaches for example do far more?

Big stadiums in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Kerry, Mayo, Tipperary, Galway are all fairly regularly filled to capacity with games involving the local counties, that will never happen with Antrim in Casement Park

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 352 - 12/06/2025 10:02:19    2616853

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Replying To Aoife1234:  "This is Ulster's stadium, not Antrim's. The same accusations around not being full much of the time could be levelled at Croke Park. It could host All Ireland qualifiers involving Ulster teams, All Ireland QFs, even more. Can we not have a bit of a vision? Solidifying the status of gaelic games in Ulster for years to come? Growing the game in Ireland's second city? That's one of the prizes here."
I support Antrim GAA getting Casement back up and running, and Nationalists in Belfast to have a decent Stadium to promote Gaelic Games in County Antrim.

But if being totally honest, in a Provincial sense, I fear this overpriced project is a major setback for Ulster GAA in many ways, which many Gaels don't fully see or don't fully understand at the moment. The massive cost will likely mean that Ulster GAA will be stuck with an inadequate low capacity Provincial Stadium which replaces Clones in extreme south with Casement in the extreme East, and they won't have funding to develop any alternatives long-term, so we could be stuck with it for the next 30-40 years.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1371 - 12/06/2025 10:47:47    2616869

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Replying To Commodore:  "I support Antrim GAA getting Casement back up and running, and Nationalists in Belfast to have a decent Stadium to promote Gaelic Games in County Antrim.

But if being totally honest, in a Provincial sense, I fear this overpriced project is a major setback for Ulster GAA in many ways, which many Gaels don't fully see or don't fully understand at the moment. The massive cost will likely mean that Ulster GAA will be stuck with an inadequate low capacity Provincial Stadium which replaces Clones in extreme south with Casement in the extreme East, and they won't have funding to develop any alternatives long-term, so we could be stuck with it for the next 30-40 years."
Lol Clones isn't in the extreme south. How would you even come that conclusion? Mad what people will invent to justify a whinge

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12387 - 12/06/2025 11:11:29    2616881

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Replying To Commodore:  "I support Antrim GAA getting Casement back up and running, and Nationalists in Belfast to have a decent Stadium to promote Gaelic Games in County Antrim.

But if being totally honest, in a Provincial sense, I fear this overpriced project is a major setback for Ulster GAA in many ways, which many Gaels don't fully see or don't fully understand at the moment. The massive cost will likely mean that Ulster GAA will be stuck with an inadequate low capacity Provincial Stadium which replaces Clones in extreme south with Casement in the extreme East, and they won't have funding to develop any alternatives long-term, so we could be stuck with it for the next 30-40 years."
If only all the organisations in NI could come together and build one decent stadium but that ship has sailed long ago. It's a sorry state of affairs as Belfast badly needs one municipal stadium with 40-50k seats. €25mil spent on Clones would be money well spent and Ulster GAA would still have Clones and the use of a stadium in Belfast.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1373 - 12/06/2025 11:21:27    2616883

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Replying To Aoife1234:  "This is Ulster's stadium, not Antrim's. The same accusations around not being full much of the time could be levelled at Croke Park. It could host All Ireland qualifiers involving Ulster teams, All Ireland QFs, even more. Can we not have a bit of a vision? Solidifying the status of gaelic games in Ulster for years to come? Growing the game in Ireland's second city? That's one of the prizes here."
All Ireland "qualifiers" ...from 2026 the AI SFC will be played using home grounds.
Quarter Finals on will be in CrokecPark.
It wont get any big hurling games either at the hurling Counties are all far South.
Ye have c£175m.... get building!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2408 - 12/06/2025 11:23:10    2616884

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Replying To Viking66:  "True. That money would've been better spent getting hurling established in every club and school in Ulster."
I couldn't agree more. build a 20k stadium in Belfast and upgrade Clones and spend the rest on full time hurling coaches to go around schools and clubs in the nine counties of Ulster. Look at what has been achieved in counties like Kildare and Westmeath over the last number of years. You don't develop Gaelic games with concrete and steel, but by giving every boy and girl the chance to play our national game.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 404 - 12/06/2025 12:58:22    2616918

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Tailbacks for miles… one road in and out… every man and his dog our collecting for a fake charity's…. The risk of your car get broken into… the joys!

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 770 - 12/06/2025 13:08:24    2616922

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Replying To veterngaa:  "Tailbacks for miles… one road in and out… every man and his dog our collecting for a fake charity's…. The risk of your car get broken into… the joys!"
Leave Croke Park out of this discussion;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16293 - 12/06/2025 13:21:02    2616929

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Replying To tireoghainabu:  "I couldn't agree more. build a 20k stadium in Belfast and upgrade Clones and spend the rest on full time hurling coaches to go around schools and clubs in the nine counties of Ulster. Look at what has been achieved in counties like Kildare and Westmeath over the last number of years. You don't develop Gaelic games with concrete and steel, but by giving every boy and girl the chance to play our national game."
That's the bottom line. The GAA was set up to preserve and promote the games. It's been more like a builder/developer in ethos in recent years.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16293 - 12/06/2025 13:22:35    2616930

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Anyone taking bets on what the final cost overrun will be on this folly if it does get built? I'd say it will go 40 million pound over current amount being mentioned.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 352 - 12/06/2025 13:25:03    2616931

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "How will that park grow gaelic games in Belfast? Wouldn't that money being spent in the city on redeveloping current club pitches and building new ones where needed and the introduction of more hurling coaches for example do far more?

Big stadiums in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Kerry, Mayo, Tipperary, Galway are all fairly regularly filled to capacity with games involving the local counties, that will never happen with Antrim in Casement Park"
"Build it and they will come" is real Hollywood speak. Far removed from the North and West Belfast I lived in, or the Glens I travelled around by motorbike, in the late 80s early 90s.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16293 - 12/06/2025 13:25:52    2616932

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Replying To tireoghainabu:  "I couldn't agree more. build a 20k stadium in Belfast and upgrade Clones and spend the rest on full time hurling coaches to go around schools and clubs in the nine counties of Ulster. Look at what has been achieved in counties like Kildare and Westmeath over the last number of years. You don't develop Gaelic games with concrete and steel, but by giving every boy and girl the chance to play our national game."
Stormont, British and Irish Governments money is for Casement only.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2408 - 12/06/2025 13:32:30    2616938

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Lol Clones isn't in the extreme south. How would you even come that conclusion? Mad what people will invent to justify a whinge"
That's rich coming from a Cavan whinger who is on here needing geographical references including the word "Extreme south" to be literally pinpointed to the Southern border of Cavan. With **** roads to Clones, its a logistical nightmare for fans and Casement will be no improvement from other parts of Ulster.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1371 - 12/06/2025 13:39:08    2616940

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Replying To Aoife1234:  "This is Ulster's stadium, not Antrim's. The same accusations around not being full much of the time could be levelled at Croke Park. It could host All Ireland qualifiers involving Ulster teams, All Ireland QFs, even more. Can we not have a bit of a vision? Solidifying the status of gaelic games in Ulster for years to come? Growing the game in Ireland's second city? That's one of the prizes here."
Exactly my point. Ulsters provincial stadium being situated in west Belfast is just madness.

To service all counties in Ulster adequately then this stadium should have been built in mid Ulster. East Tyrone with proper motorway and road networks to north, east, south and west would have been best.

Also, why does irelands second largest city need a stadium with this price tag? I seriously doubt Antrim GAA will improve dramatically due to this monstrosity.

As others have stated, this money would have been far better spent on a proper underage development plans and a first class coaching structure.

But now all Ulster counties will be restricted from an investment perspective due to one vanity project.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 928 - 12/06/2025 14:01:07    2616942

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