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Jim Gavin second best after the great Micko. kerry4sam25 (Kerry) - Posts: 116 - 11/07/2025 21:09:18 2625013 Link 0 |
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No mention of the great Heffo, you ignoramus!
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2346 - 11/07/2025 22:20:09 2625019 Link 2 |
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Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3360 - 11/07/2025 23:24:25 2625031 Link 1 |
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Well if he stays long enough he probably can, Jim Gavin has managed 6 All Ireland wins from 7 attempts, that percentage success is out of O'Connor's reach for sure! Micko well off it too!
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 982 - 12/07/2025 05:51:07 2625036 Link 1 |
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That's funny because it wasn't that long ago you lot were calling for O ' Connor to go when you lost . You won't win sam as Tyrone will beat you today sorry to break the news to you ( not really sorry though ) . S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 287 - 12/07/2025 10:12:15 2625044 Link 0 |
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The standout performer on that list is Gavin, senior intercounty manager for 7 seasons, 6 All Irelands, 7 Leinsters and 5 national leagues
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 982 - 12/07/2025 13:24:11 2625063 Link 2 |
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kerry4sam25 (Kerry) - Posts: 116 - 12/07/2025 21:09:35 2625154 Link 0 |
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So, who are you backing today? PLease let me know well before throw in so I can get to the bookies.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 13/07/2025 13:08:10 2625251 Link 0 |
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Draw today. kerry4sam25 (Kerry) - Posts: 116 - 13/07/2025 14:29:22 2625261 Link 0 |
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This has aged well....
totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1119 - 14/07/2025 09:57:30 2625518 Link 2 |
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I think he can overtake him over the next couple of years but to be mentioned in the same conversation of the greatness of some of those on the list he surely has to do back-to-back titles? Something that has eluded him so far. TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 301 - 14/07/2025 10:08:44 2625523 Link 0 |
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The sign of greatness is back to back in fairness - the old seige mentality fails in year 2 - so it takes actual qualify management to motivate a team that everyone is praising to find something extra in year 2, 3 or even later. Gavin, Cody etc were able to get their teams so see the All Ireland as being theirs and looking at the opposition as trying to steal it from them, like a family stopping someone from stealing their child. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1521 - 14/07/2025 13:29:10 2625612 Link 1 |
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Back to backs are a lot easier for teams used to winning and being in finals regularly like Kerry and Dublin in football. When a county wins their first or has only a few wins ever and wins one it's hard to get back to the that level again the next year after the massive high of winning. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3360 - 14/07/2025 22:58:52 2625751 Link 1 |
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Jack could be first manager to win 10 football AI. This kerry side will dominate for foreseeable future with the lack of competition. CorkAllIrelandChampions2016 (Cork) - Posts: 12 - 15/07/2025 22:42:52 2625957 Link 1 |
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three weeks ago everyone was saying this was the most open championship for years and anyone of 6 could win. Now Kerry will dominate for years! Its always one extreme or the other. You win by a point - tactical genius - lose by a point - complete idiot. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1521 - 16/07/2025 09:04:00 2625979 Link 1 |
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For counties used to being in finals Kerry last did back-to-back in 2006/2007 and before the Dublin 6-in-a-row it was 1976/77 I believe the last time we did it. So it's far from a regular occurrence and hence why for any county it's the true sign of greatness for both the team and the manager involved. It has eluded some top-quality teams i.e. Tyrone in the 00s. I appreciate its hard for a team who have not many in history and celebrations tend to be off the charts when they do get over the line but its that extra step the following year that is hard to find. The cause is obvious but it's hard to go from chasing the elusive to holding onto it and staying at the top when you get there. That's why the great manager's in history in both codes have to constantly evolve to find news ways of motivating players to keep going year after year.
TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 301 - 16/07/2025 11:27:42 2626022 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't have Gavin over Micko, Boylan or O Connor. Micko went to other counties and brought success. Hands down my number 1 all day. His records speak for themselves. Boylan done it with 2 different sets of teams, only Coyle and O Connell from the 88 team played in the 96 team. O Connor has won it with 2 completely different Kerry sides. Gavin won his first Ireland with Dublin in 13 and 7 of that starting team started again in the 2019 match. A lot of the same team were there the whole way through. Compare it with Harte who won 3 All Irelands with Tyrone only 6 of the team that started in 03 played again in 08. From a win to All Ireland final ratio yes Gavin is the best but as an overall manager I don't think he is better than the 3 listed above. Now if he was to come back to Dublin in 5 years time and win another All Ireland with them or go to a different county and bring success then that's a different conversation. UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 427 - 16/07/2025 11:59:19 2626029 Link 1 |
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Good point, I think when you see what Micko done when he went to other counties, that shows just how brilliant a manager he was. Easier doing it in Kerry with massive backing and tradition and in Dublin for example. I think our own Jim Mc Guinness ranks up there already with the greatest ever managers for what he done taking us from nowhere to 2 All Ireland finals and one All Ireland title, and multiple Ulster titles in his first term, then to return 10 years later to a team in disarray and repeat the same success, you could argue that the talent was there on both occasions but were it not for him we would never have won the amount we have so far and who knows what's to come? hopefully another All Ireland this year please God. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3360 - 16/07/2025 13:43:51 2626064 Link 1 |
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Not if there is a solid white line or viisibility is poor. I suppose it also depends on what cars they are driving. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 16/07/2025 13:51:17 2626070 Link 0 |
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For sustained dominance, need Jack Barry in the middle. A tour de force when on it! 32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4195 - 16/07/2025 14:10:09 2626084 Link 0 |