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Dont disagree on that point. Discipline needs to be better. But the video clearly shows the incident start with Donegal player goading Armagh players after the whistle. Win with a bit of class. We beat you's in the All ireland final - imagine it was the first reaction of our lads after that battle to goad and taunt your lads.
ArmaghAndProud (Armagh) - Posts: 47 - 11/05/2025 12:30:56 2608397 Link 0 |
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So the thought of killing provincial championship is dead. shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 330 - 11/05/2025 18:06:49 2608483 Link 1 |
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When it's the second time a non togging player has interfered with a togging player the "reason" starts to be secondary to the issue.
systematic (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 11/05/2025 18:26:26 2608499 Link 0 |
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Yeah three excellent finals, a great attacking Leinster final by both teams and a deserved win for Louth. I can't believe there was even a debate over the Louth penalty though, he was pushed in the process of kicking the ball, it was a penalty all day long. . county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1143 - 11/05/2025 18:33:36 2608501 Link 5 |
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Delighted for Louth. Three goals in the first half was key for them. As for Meath a 5 minute scoring burst aside they weren't great and for the final 23 minutes of the match they were outscored 0-8 to 1-0 and the goal they got came error in possession by Louth. Great scenes afterwards showing how much the provincial championship means Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 442 - 11/05/2025 18:38:30 2608504 Link 0 |
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Of course winning a provincial championship matters to teams. With all 8 provincial finalists having already qualified for the All Ireland series one might be of the opinion that the finals might not matter that much to the participating teams but that could not be further from the truth as witnessed over the last 2 weekends. It totally vindicates my long held opinion that the provincial championships can operate as independent competitions without having any direct link to the National Championship. Surely the provincial councils / officials can see that a link is not necessary in order for the provincials to operate successfully .Until that link is severed it does not seem possible that a viable and proper tiered championship [preferably with 3 tiers] and incorporating promotion and relegation can be achieved. Witness the chopping and changing to the championship formats and structures over the last number of years.
edu (Mayo) - Posts: 102 - 11/05/2025 19:57:13 2608546 Link 0 |
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Delighted for Louth today and well done Ger Brennan. brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 84 - 11/05/2025 20:48:03 2608569 Link 0 |
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and incorporating promotion and relegation can be achieved. Witness the chopping and changing to the championship formats and structures over the last number of years."]The new format locked in for next year will test that theory better! There will be absolutely no difference between winning and losing the finals. The finals will be like league finals. Both finalists already rewarded. In this case both rewarded with home advantage in Round 1. The 8 provincial finalists will be drawn against 8 league qualifiers.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8798 - 11/05/2025 21:10:40 2608583 Link 0 |
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Heartiest congratulations to Louth. Super delighted for yous. Some great footballers there. Ger Brennan will be crowned King of Louth. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 910 - 11/05/2025 21:25:05 2608590 Link 1 |
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BS that is. He was with the squad and no less hurt by the defeat so the goading would have no less impact just because he wasnt in the 26.
ArmaghAndProud (Armagh) - Posts: 47 - 11/05/2025 21:53:39 2608604 Link 1 |
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100% agree . It wasn't on . Donegal showed lack of respect there . Don't blame the Armagh player one bit . And the Donegal supporters surrounding the fight and egging it on with flares were just as bad ! S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 161 - 11/05/2025 22:14:53 2608610 Link 2 |
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and incorporating promotion and relegation can be achieved. Witness the chopping and changing to the championship formats and structures over the last number of years."]I think with the best will in the world they will be glorified challenge games like the FBD if separated from championship. Managers would be reluctant to go full throttle, risk injuries and show their tactical hand.
FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 99 - 11/05/2025 22:25:54 2608613 Link 0 |
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@edu (Mayo) regardless of opinion lets be honest Ran as independent competitions without having any direct link to the National Championship will not attract anything close to the attendances we have seen in Castlebar and Croke Park the last two weekend. Managers won't treat such competition serious either. Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 442 - 11/05/2025 22:33:01 2608618 Link 0 |
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I agree it was wrong but when your players are pushing Shaun Patton after scores and roaring in his face, it's harder to feel sympathy.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1416 - 11/05/2025 23:08:27 2608626 Link 2 |
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I think with the best will in the world they will be glorified challenge games like the FBD if separated from championship. Managers would be reluctant to go full throttle, risk injuries and show their tactical hand."]100%. Well done to Louth today should they go on to reach the last 8 or better now it will be cherry on top.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3617 - 11/05/2025 23:50:19 2608635 Link 0 |
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@edu (Mayo) - Posts: 100 - 11/05/2025 omahant (USA) - Posts: 3244 - 12/05/2025 00:13:19 2608637 Link 0 |
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you've said this a couple of times, the only video I've seen is one stupid young lad with one flare you're making it sound like the entire crowd were throwing flares in and egging things on. it's not the case so stop it CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 180 - 12/05/2025 09:59:48 2608694 Link 0 |
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But is what you are saying not a contradiction? By reaching a provincial final teams have already booked their place in the All Ireland series. That in itself makes them independent from the A.I [apart from seeding of course] .The top teams like Donegal Armagh etc have a guaranteed place in the A.I series even before a ball is kicked in the provincials but does that make them take any less seriously ? Most definitely not. After all there is Cup [with lots of history and tradition] to win . Would Louth and Meath fans think that we are already in the A.I series and this final does not mean much and we will not bother going to it. Well 65000 people did not seem to think so .Since the A.I series went to 16 teams the provincials have become the qualifiers for Division 3 +4 teams [and teams towards the bottom of Division 2] Hurling has 4 lower tiers. Is there any struggle to keep players managers[ maybe not supporters] interested in these championships ? You see hurling has a proper tiered structure with promotion and relegation between the different levels. All the teams do not start do not start the championship year at the top tier and as they lose in this tier they are parachuted down to lower tiers but this is exactly what happens in football as the lower league teams exit the provincials and enter the Tailteann Cup. In a way that is a negative for the T.C In no way am I knocking the T.C . It is what it is. There does appear to be a narrative that players and managers of teams in the T.C have to be constantly coming out and stating that they are taking the competition seriously. Even comments from media punters etc are in this regard. It is not a good look .You will not see this in lower tier hurling. What the football championship is missing the hurling championship already have. edu (Mayo) - Posts: 102 - 12/05/2025 10:19:44 2608705 Link 0 |
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The RTE footage actually shows 2 Donegal Supporters with flares, one in a Yellow/Green shirt and another in a white shirt. Just an FYI, It is a criminal offence and the matter should be with the Garda, how dangerous is that.
Dualstar22 (Galway) - Posts: 13 - 12/05/2025 10:44:19 2608722 Link 0 |
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.The top teams like Donegal Armagh etc have a guaranteed place in the A.I series even before a ball is kicked in the provincials but does that make them take any less seriously ? Most definitely not. After all there is Cup [with lots of history and tradition] to win . Would Louth and Meath fans think that we are already in the A.I series and this final does not mean much and we will not bother going to it. Well 65000 people did not seem to think so .Since the A.I series went to 16 teams the provincials have become the qualifiers for Division 3 +4 teams [and teams towards the bottom of Division 2] Hurling has 4 lower tiers. Is there any struggle to keep players managers[ maybe not supporters] interested in these championships ? You see hurling has a proper tiered structure with promotion and relegation between the different levels. All the teams do not start do not start the championship year at the top tier and as they lose in this tier they are parachuted down to lower tiers but this is exactly what happens in football as the lower league teams exit the provincials and enter the Tailteann Cup. In a way that is a negative for the T.C In no way am I knocking the T.C . It is what it is. There does appear to be a narrative that players and managers of teams in the T.C have to be constantly coming out and stating that they are taking the competition seriously. Even comments from media punters etc are in this regard. It is not a good look .You will not see this in lower tier hurling. What the football championship is missing the hurling championship already have."]In theory you are absolutley correct, the provinials are in some sense seperate apart from seedings for all Div 1 teams and most Div 2 teams. But it is still part of and felt as championship. The minute you remove it from the championship envelope it will not be treated with the same seriousness, passion or intensity by managers or supporters. I don't know, maybe if it was really hyped and promoted by the GAA as a prestigious event but even then, there will be an element of keeping the powder dry for the real event. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 99 - 12/05/2025 11:54:47 2608752 Link 0 |