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Replying To ElGranSenor: "We could have hurled better yesterday and I know there's been some doom and gloom on here but I think our performance yesterday could've beaten Waterford and definitely would've beaten Clare, if Cork aren't miles clear ahead of everyone, then I don't think any team is really that much better than us at our best (Not saying we're even going to get out of Leinster though)
Our performance two years ago against Dublin in Croker was much worse and even in defeat yesterday with some of the soft scores we gave away in the first 15 minutes and the five minute collapse where we conceded three goals, I don't think we played any worse than we did against Dublin in '24, Antrim in '24, Galway in '23, Antrim in '23, Westmeath in '23, Galway in '22, Dublin in '22, and Westmeath in '22
I think we have something to work with going into the Galway game, having Jippo back, pushing Conor Foley up to wing-back in place of McGuckian, and pressing up on puck-outs should make a difference (Would also help if we had Damien Reck on the wing and Cian Molloy at 6, Reck would offer us more scoring power out on the wing and Molloy is a better sitter but that change is very unlikely to happen unfortunately)" "I think our performance yesterday could've beaten Waterford and definitely would've beaten Clare"
Really? Wexford have beaten Antrim by 1 point, at home, and were beaten by Dublin. I think you should be more concerned about a relegation battle than looking at teams from Munster.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Maybe Rossi and his management did anticipate what was coming, but couldn't do much about it. Hetherton was a real handful and had a brilliant game." One simple thing was not to concede the puck out in the second half and allow the Dublin keeper to launch ball after ball on our full back line. Not that hard to figure out. Jippo quietened him when he came on and maybe should've been introduced earlier. Not rocket science
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Replying To hunting: "Over the 70 odd minutes, Dublin deserved to win. They miss only 4 wides and made no real mistakes. We were beaten on the line as well, which is a big worry. Apart from the obvious(bringing liam on earlier, changing foley of your man and pushing up on the puck outs) we missed 11 wides, even if we hit half that it would of helped massively. Fanning pucked two balls straight to a Dublin player which resulted in 2 points for Dublin in the first half. The hand pass leading up to the crazy penalty goal was something u would see in a junior B game. Chin missed 2/3 straight in front of the posts frees which u just cannot miss. We just cannot be making the same mistakes and starting the same players who make these mistakes, time after time.
Management as well as some players need to have a long hard look in the mirror.
Hope we are at the very least injury free for Galway amd run them really close. It is all about staying up now never mind 3rd place." Chin picked up a nasty hand injury and possibly should've been taken off the frees. He was in obvious discomfort and had to come off for treatment at the time he picked up the injury.
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 538 - 27/04/2025 16:44:23
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Replying To tearintom: "What's unkind about my comment?
Yep they done all that stuff you mention but as per my previous post what's out of the ordinary there?
I thought dublin were very good on the night but imho probably have another gear in them.
That's my point. Yes they only hit 4 wides but 90% of the shots they took at goal were taken from inside our 65 with most even closer inside our 45 and they were taken those shots under minimal pressure most of the time. Fair play they done it but the point is we allowed them, moreover we set up in a way to encourage it. Give any top club team that freedom for shots from those ranges and they will yield similar results.
Dublin came out with ball after ball straight up the pitch time after time when they broke up our attack and for 70 plus min's we conceded 30 odd metres or so for them to advance and launch high ball after high ball on to out full back line. But we allowed then do it, all game!
I'm not taking away from Dublin at all but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the Dublin management team are this morning kinda thinking to themselves that was a little bit easier than we thought it was going to be and they would be 100% right." There's no problem with conceding short puckouts if you work like dogs to get the turnovers. We didn't.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15490 - 27/04/2025 16:49:01
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Replying To hunting: "Over the 70 odd minutes, Dublin deserved to win. They miss only 4 wides and made no real mistakes. We were beaten on the line as well, which is a big worry. Apart from the obvious(bringing liam on earlier, changing foley of your man and pushing up on the puck outs) we missed 11 wides, even if we hit half that it would of helped massively. Fanning pucked two balls straight to a Dublin player which resulted in 2 points for Dublin in the first half. The hand pass leading up to the crazy penalty goal was something u would see in a junior B game. Chin missed 2/3 straight in front of the posts frees which u just cannot miss. We just cannot be making the same mistakes and starting the same players who make these mistakes, time after time.
Management as well as some players need to have a long hard look in the mirror.
Hope we are at the very least injury free for Galway amd run them really close. It is all about staying up now never mind 3rd place." Antrim will be going down, I wouldn't be worrying about that
fathermurphy (Wexford) - Posts: 325 - 27/04/2025 16:49:04
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Replying To hunting: "Over the 70 odd minutes, Dublin deserved to win. They miss only 4 wides and made no real mistakes. We were beaten on the line as well, which is a big worry. Apart from the obvious(bringing liam on earlier, changing foley of your man and pushing up on the puck outs) we missed 11 wides, even if we hit half that it would of helped massively. Fanning pucked two balls straight to a Dublin player which resulted in 2 points for Dublin in the first half. The hand pass leading up to the crazy penalty goal was something u would see in a junior B game. Chin missed 2/3 straight in front of the posts frees which u just cannot miss. We just cannot be making the same mistakes and starting the same players who make these mistakes, time after time.
Management as well as some players need to have a long hard look in the mirror.
Hope we are at the very least injury free for Galway amd run them really close. It is all about staying up now never mind 3rd place." Will Jack O Connor be back? If he is plus Mac that would be a welcome physical presence up front.
Even if we lose all our games we'd more than likely have the head to head over Antrim. Can't see Antrim winning 2 games now. Anything is possible tho.
If we tied on points with 2 other teams then it'd come.down to.scoring difference and I'm guessing we won't be too bad on that front. Considering Antrim have had 2 bad beatings so far and will have more to come. Offally Wexford will be interesting
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Very disappointed with the performance yesterday and from management team. Thought our forwards didn't work near hard enough letting Dublin out with the ball way too easily. Conceding nearly every puck out was killing us too why did management not tell the lads to push up . Why did management not put Shane Reck or someone else on Hetherton. To be fair to Conor Foley he is more at home at wing back or midfield . I won't comment on the referee we all know he had a huge bearing on the game giving Dublin that goal and some very questionable frees . I hope Chins finger is not broken we will be under serious pressure without him. If we have Jack O Connor back starting and Mac coming on in Galway aswell as Liam Ryan and Shane Reck starting we still have a chance although it's a big ask in Salthill. My team for the next day would be
Fanning
S Reck
Liam Ryan
E Ryan
Molloy
D Reck
C Foley
Donohoe
Hearne
Jacko
Chin
Dunbar
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Cian Byrne" Shane Reck has always struggled on big men
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15490 - 27/04/2025 16:50:32
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "The Galway game is pretty much a knock-out game for us although not quite as much for them funnily enough (Them losing the H2H to Kilkenny likely won't matter whereas us losing the H2H to Dublin will likely matter a lot more)
Assuming KK beat Antrim, Dublin beat Antrim, and KK beat Offaly, that would mean that if we were to lose to Galway, we would need to beat Offaly and KK and hope that Dublin were to beat Kilkenny in Nowlan Park and/or Antrim were to beat Galway in Salthill and also hope that Dublin beat Galway in Parnell Park in the last round
We beat Galway and then we're in a situation where 3 points from our last 4 would guarantee getting out of Leinster and four would maybe get us into the Leinster Final (Could be a three-way tie between us, KK, and Dublin in that instance; would come down to score difference in the three games so might need to beat KK by 5+ in that case to guarantee a Leinster Final)
If we were to beat Galway, Galway could still qualify by beating Antrim and Dublin and then hoping that we beat KK although this would mean 3rd rather than a Leinster Final. If they lose to us, their only chance of making a Leinster Final involves us losing to KK and Galway coming ahead of both us on Dublin on points difference in the three H2H games
If we beat Galway, the likelihood is that KK will have something to play for against us. On the other hand, if we either draw with or lose to Galway, KK will likely have nothing to play for in the last round" If we beat Galway, winning the last 2 games will guarantee us a Leinster Final place.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: ""I think our performance yesterday could've beaten Waterford and definitely would've beaten Clare"
Really? Wexford have beaten Antrim by 1 point, at home, and were beaten by Dublin. I think you should be more concerned about a relegation battle than looking at teams from Munster." I agree crazy statement but If your going to come on here constantly and try to wind up genuine hurling fan who really have a passion for their county at least get your facts right(not for the first time)we beat Antrim by more than one point with 14 men.
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "We could have hurled better yesterday and I know there's been some doom and gloom on here but I think our performance yesterday could've beaten Waterford and definitely would've beaten Clare, if Cork aren't miles clear ahead of everyone, then I don't think any team is really that much better than us at our best (Not saying we're even going to get out of Leinster though)
Our performance two years ago against Dublin in Croker was much worse and even in defeat yesterday with some of the soft scores we gave away in the first 15 minutes and the five minute collapse where we conceded three goals, I don't think we played any worse than we did against Dublin in '24, Antrim in '24, Galway in '23, Antrim in '23, Westmeath in '23, Galway in '22, Dublin in '22, and Westmeath in '22
I think we have something to work with going into the Galway game, having Jippo back, pushing Conor Foley up to wing-back in place of McGuckian, and pressing up on puck-outs should make a difference (Would also help if we had Damien Reck on the wing and Cian Molloy at 6, Reck would offer us more scoring power out on the wing and Molloy is a better sitter but that change is very unlikely to happen unfortunately)" If we didn't have Damien Reck in the position and role he plays for us we would be conceding 6 or 7 goals a game. Watch the game back if you don't believe me.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: ""I think our performance yesterday could've beaten Waterford and definitely would've beaten Clare"
Really? Wexford have beaten Antrim by 1 point, at home, and were beaten by Dublin. I think you should be more concerned about a relegation battle than looking at teams from Munster." We beat Antrim by 11 points.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15490 - 27/04/2025 16:59:44
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Replying To HurlingBuzz: "One simple thing was not to concede the puck out in the second half and allow the Dublin keeper to launch ball after ball on our full back line. Not that hard to figure out. Jippo quietened him when he came on and maybe should've been introduced earlier. Not rocket science" 'Not that hard to figure out', 'Not rocket science' Tell that to Rossiter, you obviously know far more than he does.
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Replying To Viking66: "If we didn't have Damien Reck in the position and role he plays for us we would be conceding 6 or 7 goals a game. Watch the game back if you don't believe me." I dunno, I think Cian Molloy would be a lot more solid at 6 than Damien Reck
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 456 - 27/04/2025 17:09:20
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Replying To Viking66: "We beat Antrim by 11 points." Sorry Viking. I never saw the game. I was going by the score given on here, Wexford 2-24 Antrim 0-29.
It's still there under 'Results'.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "'Not that hard to figure out', 'Not rocket science' Tell that to Rossiter, you obviously know far more than he does." What do you think of the suggestions?
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 538 - 27/04/2025 17:12:35
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Sorry Viking. I never saw the game. I was going by the score given on here, Wexford 2-24 Antrim 0-29.
It's still there under 'Results'." We shouldve beaten them by more CC, but we didn't do too badly when you consider we were down to 14 men for 3/4s of the game.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15490 - 27/04/2025 17:22:42
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Replying To hunting: "I agree crazy statement but If your going to come on here constantly and try to wind up genuine hurling fan who really have a passion for their county at least get your facts right(not for the first time)we beat Antrim by more than one point with 14 men." "come on here constantly and try to wind up genuine hurling fan who really have a passion for their county"
Constantly? Wind up? I'm sorry I didn't realise you were the delicate type.
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There's a good bit of overreaction here. We had a bad 5 minutes precipitated by a bad refereeing decision, we lost to a team that sadly for us always raises its game against us, and against whom we never seem to play with much intensity. Again, wides killed us. Hetherton started instead of one of the injured duo.
We didn't get hammered, we lost a close enough game. There are learnings for sure.
We move on.
Win in Salthill and our path becomes clearer. As regards winning Leinster every game is knockout for us now. Win our next 4 games and we win Leinster. Same as for Galway. We both have to win all our remaining grouo games to be sure of a Leinster Final. 2 weeks time will be a cracking game. Hopefully management won't be telling lads to calm down in the first 15 minutes, but rather they will be trying to get them to relax by playing so hard and fast that they forget they are nervous. A repeat of last years performance against the same opposition, "no shackles" hurling, to quote Mogie, will do very nicely.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: ""come on here constantly and try to wind up genuine hurling fan who really have a passion for their county"
Constantly? Wind up? I'm sorry I didn't realise you were the delicate type.
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Replying To fathermurphy: "Wexford were 3 up, penalty was a massive swing for Dublin, wexford got deflated, I feel they would of won it otherwise, all we want is fair play. With the penalty and Chin getting battered around the field is not fairplay! hopefully we get justice in the next few matches" I agree 100%. That was the winning of the game.
Chin got booked for nothing, what crummy did yo him was far worse and we didn't even get a free.
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