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Replying To Viking66: "And we beat that exact same Dublin team in Parnell Park." Yeah, I don't know whether they improved tenfold some that day or else we under-performed but if you acknowledge the Laois result, you also have to acknowledge the Dublin result
Goes to show how poor a format it is, Dublin lost their two group games both this year and last year at U20 level and yet they made a Leinster Final two years in a row. Their Minors lost all three games and are now in a Leinster SF too. Not saying there's anything wrong with what they're doing (We made a Leinster Final at U20 in 2023 having only won 1/3 group games) but it goes to show how meaningless the group games are
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 509 - 15/05/2025 11:58:23
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With all due respect lads, do you think players have nothing else to do?
Most players are training 3 times a week and a match at the weekend. Between that there are recovery sessions, ball work, etc.
And then you expect them to go coach the u14's or be the club secretary and give another couple of nights a week to that?
And then people wonder why players walk away. What is everybody else in the club doing? Why can't mammy who lets the kids out at the gate become club secretary instead of running away once the kids are out of the car?
On the topic of coaches, I can tell you now we were managed by an All-Ireland winner and he was the biggest spoofer I ever saw coaching a team. We almost got relegated and the narrative out there within days was "they are a bad bunch" and on to the next club went this spoofer. And the same happened there. And he is still on that merry-go-round.
You do not need to be a great player to be a great coach and never did. Professional sport is full of people who never played the sport they excelled in coaching. Alastair Clarkson, coach of the North Melbourne Kangaroos AFL team was nothing of a player and coached Hawthorn to 4 AFL titles.
In fact, I would almost go as far as to say more often than not great coaches become so because their playing careers were a failure - so this is another throw of the dice in a sport they want to be successful in.
Regarding the development squads, why aren't these coaches paid? They are much more important than a club paying out to a spoofer to manage a junior A team.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1836 - 15/05/2025 12:16:38
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Replying To StoreysTash: "With all due respect lads, do you think players have nothing else to do?
Most players are training 3 times a week and a match at the weekend. Between that there are recovery sessions, ball work, etc.
And then you expect them to go coach the u14's or be the club secretary and give another couple of nights a week to that?
And then people wonder why players walk away. What is everybody else in the club doing? Why can't mammy who lets the kids out at the gate become club secretary instead of running away once the kids are out of the car?
On the topic of coaches, I can tell you now we were managed by an All-Ireland winner and he was the biggest spoofer I ever saw coaching a team. We almost got relegated and the narrative out there within days was "they are a bad bunch" and on to the next club went this spoofer. And the same happened there. And he is still on that merry-go-round.
You do not need to be a great player to be a great coach and never did. Professional sport is full of people who never played the sport they excelled in coaching. Alastair Clarkson, coach of the North Melbourne Kangaroos AFL team was nothing of a player and coached Hawthorn to 4 AFL titles.
In fact, I would almost go as far as to say more often than not great coaches become so because their playing careers were a failure - so this is another throw of the dice in a sport they want to be successful in.
Regarding the development squads, why aren't these coaches paid? They are much more important than a club paying out to a spoofer to manage a junior A team." Well said.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 461 - 15/05/2025 13:19:15
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Replying To StoreysTash: "With all due respect lads, do you think players have nothing else to do?
Most players are training 3 times a week and a match at the weekend. Between that there are recovery sessions, ball work, etc.
And then you expect them to go coach the u14's or be the club secretary and give another couple of nights a week to that?
And then people wonder why players walk away. What is everybody else in the club doing? Why can't mammy who lets the kids out at the gate become club secretary instead of running away once the kids are out of the car?
On the topic of coaches, I can tell you now we were managed by an All-Ireland winner and he was the biggest spoofer I ever saw coaching a team. We almost got relegated and the narrative out there within days was "they are a bad bunch" and on to the next club went this spoofer. And the same happened there. And he is still on that merry-go-round.
You do not need to be a great player to be a great coach and never did. Professional sport is full of people who never played the sport they excelled in coaching. Alastair Clarkson, coach of the North Melbourne Kangaroos AFL team was nothing of a player and coached Hawthorn to 4 AFL titles.
In fact, I would almost go as far as to say more often than not great coaches become so because their playing careers were a failure - so this is another throw of the dice in a sport they want to be successful in.
Regarding the development squads, why aren't these coaches paid? They are much more important than a club paying out to a spoofer to manage a junior A team." Similar tale here. AI winner as a player brought in as a coach. He had us doing a lap or a two during training while he thought of and setup the next drill! The one positive was it made the group realise how much better our own lads were and your man got kicked the kerb. Some amount of spoofers on the club circuit.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 410 - 15/05/2025 13:28:55
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Replying To StoreysTash: "With all due respect lads, do you think players have nothing else to do?
Most players are training 3 times a week and a match at the weekend. Between that there are recovery sessions, ball work, etc.
And then you expect them to go coach the u14's or be the club secretary and give another couple of nights a week to that?
And then people wonder why players walk away. What is everybody else in the club doing? Why can't mammy who lets the kids out at the gate become club secretary instead of running away once the kids are out of the car?
On the topic of coaches, I can tell you now we were managed by an All-Ireland winner and he was the biggest spoofer I ever saw coaching a team. We almost got relegated and the narrative out there within days was "they are a bad bunch" and on to the next club went this spoofer. And the same happened there. And he is still on that merry-go-round.
You do not need to be a great player to be a great coach and never did. Professional sport is full of people who never played the sport they excelled in coaching. Alastair Clarkson, coach of the North Melbourne Kangaroos AFL team was nothing of a player and coached Hawthorn to 4 AFL titles.
In fact, I would almost go as far as to say more often than not great coaches become so because their playing careers were a failure - so this is another throw of the dice in a sport they want to be successful in.
Regarding the development squads, why aren't these coaches paid? They are much more important than a club paying out to a spoofer to manage a junior A team." I agree 100%, the lads coaching our development squads should be getting more expenses. That would encourage better lads to do it.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 15/05/2025 14:54:49
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Are the GAA talking about putting an end to outside coaches? My father was telling me the GAA were thinking of restricting people to only managing the club and county they are officially registered to
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 509 - 15/05/2025 15:02:33
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Are the GAA talking about putting an end to outside coaches? My father was telling me the GAA were thinking of restricting people to only managing the club and county they are officially registered to" Yep. Another initiative moving towards self perpetuating elites.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 15/05/2025 16:17:26
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Replying To Viking66: "CBD can't win his own ball at Senior level yet either." No...and was frankly poor when I saw him in the league this year a couple of times. Showed more promise last year. But would give him a go.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 410 - 15/05/2025 17:28:39
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Are the GAA talking about putting an end to outside coaches? My father was telling me the GAA were thinking of restricting people to only managing the club and county they are officially registered to" Despite what Viking says above.....no, not really.
It's one of those notions that does the rounds from time to time, but it's never been actioned. While it would do away with the sort of mercenary gravy-train coaches that some have already mentioned, it would also do a great deal of harm.
At inter-county level, for example, imagine if Carlow couldn't benefit from wisdom and experience of a good coach from Kilkenny, or if Kerry couldn't use somebody from Cork or Limerick.
A good Denis Walsh piece from The Irish Times about the whole thing:
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2025/02/10/gaa-living-beyond-its-means-in-the-funding-of-management-teams/
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Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2863 - 15/05/2025 22:24:21
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Team selected. A few surprises with the team picked. Is Mac injured again? Or maybe he just hasn't got 70 minutes in him.
I heard Richie Lawlor pulled a hamstring in the Galway game. Baffling that Casey is in the first 15.
He was anonymous last week. I don't think he touched a ball all day.
Shane Recks tight marking ability will be missed, too.
Good to see the 2 Cians starting. Madness that didn't happen in Salthill.
It's likely there will be changes from the team selected before throw in.
Surely we can win this game with something to spare. It's a dead rubber for both teams.
Highly unlikely that other games over the weekend will go our way. It's a matter of just winning and avoiding the dreaded drop to the Joe Mac.
Verdict-- wexford to win by 7 points.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 461 - 16/05/2025 06:26:27
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Team named. Glad to see Patsy and Cian restored! Surprised Seamus is named to start, but then Keith likes one or 2 changes.
Going to be a battle Saturday.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 16/05/2025 06:43:35
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Simon donohue just can't be dropped. What am I missing here lads
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Replying To Yellowhelmet: "Simon donohue just can't be dropped. What am I missing here lads" Think we are all missing whatever it is
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 16/05/2025 10:30:34
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Despite what Viking says above.....no, not really. It's one of those notions that does the rounds from time to time, but it's never been actioned. While it would do away with the sort of mercenary gravy-train coaches that some have already mentioned, it would also do a great deal of harm. At inter-county level, for example, imagine if Carlow couldn't benefit from wisdom and experience of a good coach from Kilkenny, or if Kerry couldn't use somebody from Cork or Limerick. A good Denis Walsh piece from The Irish Times about the whole thing: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2025/02/10/gaa-living-beyond-its-means-in-the-funding-of-management-teams/ link"
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15811 - 16/05/2025 10:32:32
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Replying To Viking66: "Team named. Glad to see Patsy and Cian restored! Surprised Seamus is named to start, but then Keith likes one or 2 changes.
Going to be a battle Saturday." Surely Max will start if he has 40 or 50 minutes in him. Seamus was poor the last day. In my opinion I'd rather give Jack Redmond game time he's only 23 and has time to get up to standard over the next few years
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This team has to have some changes,seamus casey can't start I'd say mac starts this game!!! Richie lawlor hamstring injury!! I'd say Simon donohue is gone also he cannot be looked at anymore!! We actually have notting to bring in our bench looks so weak!! I think we beat offaly,I reckon offaly have there sights on next weekend!! I think kilkenny will wipe us out if they come with the right attitude,if they beat dublin they are in leinster final!! If we are out and notting to play for I'd say we get a licking!!!the more I look at that team,it just drains all positivity I had in them,I'm nearly excepting we are at an all time low goin nowhere
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Surely Max will start if he has 40 or 50 minutes in him. Seamus was poor the last day. In my opinion I'd rather give Jack Redmond game time he's only 23 and has time to get up to standard over the next few years" Mac not Max!
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 16/05/2025 11:06:04
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Replying To Viking66: "Think we are all missing whatever it is" For some unknown reason Simon has always been selected by all managers down through the years.
I think it may be for his all out effort on the field.
He is wholey committed and has over 100 games under his belt.
He does however give away a lot of frees and his lack of awareness which leads to poor clearances and soloing into traffic just gives possession away.
I don't like been over critical of him and we could say the same of other players but it's quite bewildering how he is still holding his place on the team. Maybe it's because management have no confidence in the replacements so they have no choice in the matter.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 461 - 16/05/2025 11:29:54
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Replying To Yellowhelmet: "Simon donohue just can't be dropped. What am I missing here lads" It is a fact that some lads find it harder to get off the team that get on it.
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Replying To theboys: "This team has to have some changes,seamus casey can't start I'd say mac starts this game!!! Richie lawlor hamstring injury!! I'd say Simon donohue is gone also he cannot be looked at anymore!! We actually have notting to bring in our bench looks so weak!! I think we beat offaly,I reckon offaly have there sights on next weekend!! I think kilkenny will wipe us out if they come with the right attitude,if they beat dublin they are in leinster final!! If we are out and notting to play for I'd say we get a licking!!!the more I look at that team,it just drains all positivity I had in them,I'm nearly excepting we are at an all time low goin nowhere" Nothing new there. Your usual negativity.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 461 - 16/05/2025 11:34:37
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