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Ballygunner one of finest club teams in hurling.will probably be disappointed that they havnt won more than 1 all Ireland but looking at them,they will be contending seriously for the coming years..they were excelllent in semi final and could put a big score on sarsfields on Sunday..they will probably have to keep an eye on all Ireland semi more than anything..if they get to final they will be heavy favourites to get over the line and I for one wouldn't bet against them.they are a very well run club and that helps..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2394 - 28/11/2024 20:49:17    2581659

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Replying To BigBàsMan:  "7 at best.
How many Loughrea games did you watch this year?
They're unbeaten in the Galway championship. A much more competitive championship than Ulster."
I watched the Galway final and they were shocking poor, cap were the better team throughout but shot themselves in the foot….but would probably have missed that. Ulster used to be a forgone conclusion on many occasions for Antrim clubs and only bad attitude was mainly to blame for a few defeats. However, it's way more competitive with portaferry and slaughtneil both at a higher level. Antrim hurling at county level is lower than club level because most players are not committed to the county. Slaughtneil would beat the pick of the rest of Derry.

exref (Antrim) - Posts: 69 - 28/11/2024 20:58:37    2581660

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ballygunner are by far the best team in Munster for the last good few years. But to say that all the teams from other provinces would struggle to get out of Munster is delusional. Munster club teams have only won 2 AIs in the last 20 years, 1 with Ruddles spectacular if speculative last minute goal, and the other when NaP beat Carlow Champions MLR. Yet you are saying all the clubs that beat Munster clubs the rest of the time would have struggled to beat the same Munster clubs in the Munster championship?"
Nothing speculative about Harry Rudell's goal. Ballygunner put themselves in the position that his goal won the game for them. The same as St. Thomas put themselves in the position to win the shootout last year. Rudell's shot did not go in off a post or hit off anyone. He buried it in the corner of the net with the keeper at full stretch. This is the second time you have tried to sully that All-Ireland win. I will give credit to any team from anywhere that win.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2878 - 28/11/2024 23:56:44    2581670

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Replying To exref:  "I watched the Galway final and they were shocking poor, cap were the better team throughout but shot themselves in the foot….but would probably have missed that. Ulster used to be a forgone conclusion on many occasions for Antrim clubs and only bad attitude was mainly to blame for a few defeats. However, it's way more competitive with portaferry and slaughtneil both at a higher level. Antrim hurling at county level is lower than club level because most players are not committed to the county. Slaughtneil would beat the pick of the rest of Derry."
So you watched one game and you're basing it off that? Very idiotic comment. Cappy Vs Loughrea always a dogfight of a game the last 10 years. Now tell me, did you watch the two clarinbridge games and the castlegar game?

BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 40 - 29/11/2024 08:18:58    2581671

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Replying To Canuck:  "Nothing speculative about Harry Rudell's goal. Ballygunner put themselves in the position that his goal won the game for them. The same as St. Thomas put themselves in the position to win the shootout last year. Rudell's shot did not go in off a post or hit off anyone. He buried it in the corner of the net with the keeper at full stretch. This is the second time you have tried to sully that All-Ireland win. I will give credit to any team from anywhere that win."
Just like munster lovers trying say leinster weak yet olg close winning ballyhale cuala won many all irelands so.
Also yes fair play to gunners that year but also Ballyhale were ahead for the whole game let it slip not sore to say that but great goal from Rudle

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 530 - 29/11/2024 08:19:08    2581672

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Replying To exref:  "I watched the Galway final and they were shocking poor, cap were the better team throughout but shot themselves in the foot….but would probably have missed that. Ulster used to be a forgone conclusion on many occasions for Antrim clubs and only bad attitude was mainly to blame for a few defeats. However, it's way more competitive with portaferry and slaughtneil both at a higher level. Antrim hurling at county level is lower than club level because most players are not committed to the county. Slaughtneil would beat the pick of the rest of Derry."
"cappy were the better team" despite losing, only leading once on 18th min and both having 12 wides.

BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 40 - 29/11/2024 08:21:01    2581673

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Replying To Canuck:  "Nothing speculative about Harry Rudell's goal. Ballygunner put themselves in the position that his goal won the game for them. The same as St. Thomas put themselves in the position to win the shootout last year. Rudell's shot did not go in off a post or hit off anyone. He buried it in the corner of the net with the keeper at full stretch. This is the second time you have tried to sully that All-Ireland win. I will give credit to any team from anywhere that win."
I'm not trying to sully the win. I was delighted for Ballygunner that they won that game. And I've said repeatedly that they've been the best club side in Ireland the last few years, and I have them as favouritesthis year too. I just pointed out that it's very rare that a team that's 2 points down gets a goal with the last puck of a game. And even rarer that someone scores a goal from that far out.
But you were trying to big up the rest of the Munster clubs while running down clubs from everywhere else in that post. If the other Munster clubs apart from Ballygunner were as far ahead as you claimed, then surely to God more than one of them would've won a club AI in the last 20 years?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14008 - 29/11/2024 09:15:04    2581675

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ballygunner are by far the best team in Munster for the last good few years. But to say that all the teams from other provinces would struggle to get out of Munster is delusional. Munster club teams have only won 2 AIs in the last 20 years, 1 with Ruddles spectacular if speculative last minute goal, and the other when NaP beat Carlow Champions MLR. Yet you are saying all the clubs that beat Munster clubs the rest of the time would have struggled to beat the same Munster clubs in the Munster championship?"
Wrong Viking. Nap beat Oulart the Ballagh. I should know as my wife is an OTB woman and I was at the game.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4468 - 29/11/2024 09:26:17    2581678

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Seven different Galway clubs have won All Ireland (14 all told.) Enough said really.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3187 - 29/11/2024 09:48:52    2581679

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Wrong Viking. Nap beat Oulart the Ballagh. I should know as my wife is an OTB woman and I was at the game."
Sorry they did OTM. My mistake! But the point still stands. That was only one of 2 occasions a Munster club has won the AI club in the last 20 years. The AI club championship has been dominated by Galway and Kilkenny clubs.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14008 - 29/11/2024 11:20:03    2581688

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Seven different Galway clubs have won All Ireland (14 all told.) Enough said really."
After a savage battle to get out of Connaught. However they won them fair play to them.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2878 - 29/11/2024 14:37:14    2581698

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Replying To Viking66:  "Sorry they did OTM. My mistake! But the point still stands. That was only one of 2 occasions a Munster club has won the AI club in the last 20 years. The AI club championship has been dominated by Galway and Kilkenny clubs."
NAP bet Cushendall in the AI club final to win it.

They bet Oulart in the semi final.

Oulart had a great chance to win the All Ireland that year.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 823 - 29/11/2024 14:43:23    2581699

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Replying To Canuck:  "After a savage battle to get out of Connaught. However they won them fair play to them."
I could make the same sarcastic comment about Ballygunner's savage battle to get out of Waterford. The Galway championship is as tough as they come, so they have a similar amount of competitive games played as Ballygunner by the time they play the All-Ireland semi-final.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2195 - 29/11/2024 17:42:37    2581706

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I could make the same sarcastic comment about Ballygunner's savage battle to get out of Waterford. The Galway championship is as tough as they come, so they have a similar amount of competitive games played as Ballygunner by the time they play the All-Ireland semi-final."
I have the highest respect for the Galway county championship and in my opinion the most competitive and toughest one to win. The point I was making to begin with if you had to get past the winners of Limerick, Cork, Tipp,Clare and Waterford before you enter the All-Ireland series that is a huge task. You have to beat at least three of them. That is just the way it is and not the fault of Galway, Kilkenny or the Ulster reps. The teams from Ulster deserve the most accolades. Playing outside your county is a completely different challenge. Despite Limerick being the greatest team over the last number of years and Clare chopping at their heels Ballygunner has dominated Munster. Ballyhale have been the greatest club team and in my opinion would have the same success no matter where they played.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2878 - 29/11/2024 19:31:13    2581715

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Replying To Canuck:  "I have the highest respect for the Galway county championship and in my opinion the most competitive and toughest one to win. The point I was making to begin with if you had to get past the winners of Limerick, Cork, Tipp,Clare and Waterford before you enter the All-Ireland series that is a huge task. You have to beat at least three of them. That is just the way it is and not the fault of Galway, Kilkenny or the Ulster reps. The teams from Ulster deserve the most accolades. Playing outside your county is a completely different challenge. Despite Limerick being the greatest team over the last number of years and Clare chopping at their heels Ballygunner has dominated Munster. Ballyhale have been the greatest club team and in my opinion would have the same success no matter where they played."
Most club teams only have to win 2 games to win Munster. Occasionally 3. It's 3 to win Leinster. Limerick clubs, like Waterford and Wexford clubs, have only won 1 AI club title ever. Clare and Dublin clubs have won 2, same number as Antrim clubs. Club championships are not in any way related to county teams success.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14008 - 29/11/2024 21:15:19    2581724

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "It is understandable that people resent the "super clubs" in their own county but as you say are they supposed to turn people away or drop their standards?

Na Fianna are now among that catagory I suppose but if it wasn't for them there would be another swathe of Dublin city in which GAA hardly exists. Same probably be said of Na Piarsiagh in Limerick.

Anyone who has hundreds of kids hurling is credit to association."
Exactly that. People give out about these large clubs, but as you said, they're putting in huge work coaching massive numbers of young kids. Without them, these would be GAA wastelands.
In Galway people complain that GAA isn't strong enough in the city and we're not getting enough out of it. The solution is clubs doing the type of work the likes of Na Piarsaigh and the many Dublin clubs have done.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2195 - 29/11/2024 22:55:06    2581732

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Replying To Canuck:  "I have the highest respect for the Galway county championship and in my opinion the most competitive and toughest one to win. The point I was making to begin with if you had to get past the winners of Limerick, Cork, Tipp,Clare and Waterford before you enter the All-Ireland series that is a huge task. You have to beat at least three of them. That is just the way it is and not the fault of Galway, Kilkenny or the Ulster reps. The teams from Ulster deserve the most accolades. Playing outside your county is a completely different challenge. Despite Limerick being the greatest team over the last number of years and Clare chopping at their heels Ballygunner has dominated Munster. Ballyhale have been the greatest club team and in my opinion would have the same success no matter where they played."
Ballyhale are a freak of a club, you can't compare them to any other club in Ireland.

They have produced multiple Texaco hurler of the years, something like 20 past players in the club have won multiple All Irelands with Kilkenny and multiple All Stars.

At one stage recently they said not winning a senior club all Ireland in Ballyhale was seen as a failure of a year, ridiculous standards in that club.

If you're born in Ballyhale and can hurl, the gods have been good to you!!

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 823 - 29/11/2024 23:38:31    2581736

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Looking like its going to be good evening for hurling. Looking forward to this one. Hoping for Na Fianna win but no idea as to how it might go, Reckon that it will be high scoring and a clatter of goals given the firepower on both sides when let loose, Can't see either setting out with overly defensive view. The main men on both sides are going to score and create scores no matter how negative you play them. I think both teams have similar positive mentality.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3187 - 30/11/2024 06:18:53    2581745

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Looking like its going to be good evening for hurling. Looking forward to this one. Hoping for Na Fianna win but no idea as to how it might go, Reckon that it will be high scoring and a clatter of goals given the firepower on both sides when let loose, Can't see either setting out with overly defensive view. The main men on both sides are going to score and create scores no matter how negative you play them. I think both teams have similar positive mentality."
I'm looking forward to it Barney. Hopefully your lads can get over the line this time.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14008 - 30/11/2024 13:29:39    2581762

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Replying To katser:  "Munster has the hallmarks of a epic humdinger of a Final between Ballygunner v Sarsfields!
Leinster is tricky.....for some reason Kilcormac/K is screaming out at me to win Leinster!!"
Predictions made at the the QF stage.....

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2481 - 30/11/2024 18:50:39    2581789

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