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Some were concerned that a game could be over after the concession of two goals. If Dublin score two goals against a Division 4 team, 8 points down after about 10 minutes, game over already. If the arc is successful for long range scores and goals need to be encouraged, it might just be a change to 4 points will be agreed further down the line. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8326 - 29/10/2024 22:16:43 2577533 Link 2 |
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That argument about the increased scoring difference makes no sense. Dublin in that instance would be ahead by six with the current system so if the other team is incapable of scoring goals then they need six points to equalise. Dublin would be ahead by eight and the other team could equalise in the new system with between as few as four scores and a maximum of eight scores by scoring long- and short-points. The reality is that in either case (or under any scoring system) the game is probably already over due to the disparity between the teams. That is an entirely different problem and no scoring system should be designed based on the gaps between teams due to imbalanced competition structures. The decision to remove the 4-point goals is bizarre and will inevitably lead to the removal of the 2-point score when the disincentive to score goals becomes evident. Possibly, the 2-point score may not now even make it past congress. CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 122 - 30/10/2024 11:49:20 2577579 Link 2 |
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Removing the 4 pointer is bizarre but a typical GAA decision. The 2 pointer needs a run out. The success of that will probably determine the next step. I think the value of goals increasing to 4 will be inevitable, delegates just aren't on board yet.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8326 - 30/10/2024 13:03:20 2577594 Link 2 |
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Odd one alright. I'm surprised they didn't try to make the 2 point score a 1 and a half point score as well! Hurling had the two point sideline cut for a while before it was reverted - I feel the 2 point score is more likely to go that way than bring in a 5 point goal. It's a shame - as much as it's great to see a long range point you can't beat a goal and u I suspect you're right that there's less incentive to go for them. brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 357 - 30/10/2024 22:48:54 2577659 Link 2 |
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The tricky thing is football needs the long range bonus. It will reward the risk and defences have to push out. In defending from two pointers, will defences leave themselves more prone to conceding goals? A team is probing for a two pointer. The defence is blocking them off. A pass outside the 45 and a long kick pass inside the 20 can setup a mark and a goal scoring opportunity. How it plays out in practice will tell a lot. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8326 - 31/10/2024 21:01:55 2577781 Link 0 |
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That 45-20 play is exciting - but should 3 pts by the reward for that risk, given implementation of the 2-pointer?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2908 - 17/11/2024 22:30:40 2580061 Link 0 |
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I heard there are TWENTY NINE Rule change motions for the special Congress!? Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1979 - 18/11/2024 09:36:47 2580092 Link 0 |
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They can make 129 rule changes if they like… it won't make one bit of difference.., football has become a total bore and introducing more ridiculous rules is only going to make it worse…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3057 - 18/11/2024 10:11:51 2580102 Link 0 |
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Harsh. 3v3, solo & go, the improve attacking mark and the reward for the risky long range score should be an improvement. The goalkeeper passing should help as well. Pointless in having a keeper walk up the field in possession and noone laying a glove for fear of being piggy in the middle. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8326 - 18/11/2024 17:48:59 2580193 Link 0 |
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@legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 18/11/2024 17:48:59 omahant (USA) - Posts: 2908 - 21/11/2024 19:36:38 2580644 Link 0 |
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You're trying to work around not limiting handpasses. Why not just limit handpasses? I think the rules have to be kept fairly simple so our referees can apply them. I still can't fathom why no handpass rule was thought of by the review committee. brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 357 - 22/11/2024 09:41:26 2580680 Link 0 |
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Major failing that some reduction/limit/ban wasn't trialled at least. Also the throw points and 2 handed push goals. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1979 - 22/11/2024 10:55:45 2580692 Link 0 |
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All of the FRC suggested rule changes were approved. It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out. Still not overly convinced on the kick outs having to go outside the arc though I do like to see good fielding. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8326 - 30/11/2024 19:59:51 2581794 Link 0 |
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Looking forward to watching league games with new rules..I see they have introduced the countdown clock aswell..does ref still decide on stoppages or will there be someone completely different looking after this??I'll go to some club matches to,just to see how a ref will manage things when completely on his own..one question do all Gaa pitches now have to have the extra lines required?? CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2394 - 01/12/2024 18:57:18 2581910 Link 0 |
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All clubs will have to get drawing lines I definitely think all these new rule changes will create havoc especially gor club matches and referees who are only amateurs the one whete u bring ball forward 50 metres is basically left up to ref descriptions way 2, many rules for amateur players and referees I'd say no professional sport has as many rule changes in one year ever ,, I'd like the committee members who proposed these rules to referee a few matches snd see how thar goes unfortunately in my opinion they have finally killed football,, at club level Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 957 - 01/12/2024 20:01:41 2581924 Link 0 |
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The review committee members done their review and presented proposals to central council so the responsibility for the changes is clearly with the county boards who instruct their delegates how to vote.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 803 - 01/12/2024 21:09:55 2581946 Link 1 |
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Absolutely bizarre and outrageous decision taken over the weekend to introduce EIGHTEEN rule changes in one fell swoop with next to NO trial period or even discussion. And yet here we are 6 weeks after a host of unenforceable "rules" were trialled in a, let's be honest, farce of an inter-provincial series with nothing at stake and 4 teams of players on a weekend bonding session. Unbelievable stuff!! Were clubs or grassroots members consulted on any of this??, if they were I must have missed it! It seems this Review Committee just came up with a host of bizarre rule changes and everyone just accepted it with absolutely no trial period or worthwhile discussion on it from ordinary GAA members. I thought the GAA was supposed to be a democratic organisation?? Havoc will ensue, mark my words, in club pitches up and down the country, when referees (who are hard to recruit as it is) are met with the task of implementing a whole host of bizarre new rule changes that don't just slightly tweak existing rules, but completely change the game as we know it. Gobsmacked that any sporting organisation would just introduce EIGHTEEN new rules all at once 6 weeks after we first heard anything about them!! Outrageous, Outrageous stuff. TopoftheD (UK) - Posts: 3 - 01/12/2024 21:42:37 2581951 Link 2 |
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Where were you all year?
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1979 - 01/12/2024 23:14:22 2581963 Link 0 |
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Get off the fence.
Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 291 - 02/12/2024 00:42:21 2581968 Link 1 |
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There's a big difference in having a review committee and then putting out 18 proposals and then for all of them to go through. The game did need to improve but even so I can see why someone would think that the process has been handled in a crazy manner.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4332 - 02/12/2024 13:51:38 2582041 Link 0 |