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Replying To legendzxix:  "Both are needed. The new rules to encourage more attacking football than all this safe lateral passing. The championship needs to have jeopardy. That bit of bite. A lot of counties have no real jeopardy in the provincial championship. The group stage then has no real jeopardy either."
I agree both are needed - I think you said it right; that bit of bite is missing in the earlier rounds. I think bringing back that bit of bite would help the game as much as any rule change.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 354 - 21/11/2024 11:09:33    2580546

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My Swiss System/URC-style AI League-Championship has characteristics of Nations League A & B - both 16 teams, with '4 groups of 4', prior to a 'top 8' playing for the major prize and tier-crossover/lower tier ties for lesser prizes.

Maybe the existing AIC group stage could adopt some of these elements, like:

Tier 1 'top 2s' to Sam KO QFs
Tier 1 '3rds' v Tier 2 '1sts' to Shield QFs (all 8 go/stay up)
Tier 1 '4ths' relegated
Tier 2 '2nds v 3rds' in Tailteann Cup QFs (all 8 stay down)

Again, 24 get a KO tie but there is jeopardy given a 'three-tier' AIC.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2889 - 21/11/2024 15:26:25    2580603

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The Allianz Football League has a consistent format. So much so that the league has been elevated to providing qualifiers. The hurling championship has a consistent format now, bar the covid years.
The old Christy Ring format is tried and tested. Kerry had the format this year. Down have had that format as well.
I saw some mention that provincial finalists will have home advantage in Round 1. No word on any particular advantage for winning a provincial title. Do the GAA not want to offer an incentive for Dublin to win a Leinster final?!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8284 - 21/11/2024 18:06:29    2580632

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The Allianz Football League has a consistent format. So much so that the league has been elevated to providing qualifiers. The hurling championship has a consistent format now, bar the covid years.
The old Christy Ring format is tried and tested. Kerry had the format this year. Down have had that format as well.
I saw some mention that provincial finalists will have home advantage in Round 1. No word on any particular advantage for winning a provincial title. Do the GAA not want to offer an incentive for Dublin to win a Leinster final?!"
Especially now that Paul Flynn thinks the Dubs will be challenged in Leinster following Brian Fenton's departure. I'm not convinced.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2889 - 21/11/2024 19:31:26    2580642

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The Allianz Football League has a consistent format. So much so that the league has been elevated to providing qualifiers. The hurling championship has a consistent format now, bar the covid years.
The old Christy Ring format is tried and tested. Kerry had the format this year. Down have had that format as well.
I saw some mention that provincial finalists will have home advantage in Round 1. No word on any particular advantage for winning a provincial title. Do the GAA not want to offer an incentive for Dublin to win a Leinster final?!"
Maybe seeing as crowds at Dublin games in Croke Park were way down this year.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1954 - 21/11/2024 20:13:12    2580650

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Replying To omahant:  "Especially now that Paul Flynn thinks the Dubs will be challenged in Leinster following Brian Fenton's departure. I'm not convinced."
Their victory margins will come down a bit.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1954 - 22/11/2024 09:14:39    2580678

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Maybe seeing as crowds at Dublin games in Croke Park were way down this year."
They've been dwindling for some time now. Leinster became uncompetitive due to the amount of money pumped into Dublin. It wasn't until it became obvious at national level that it was toned down a little. For this reason I'd also expect Leinster to become a bit more competitive.

We need to even the playing field financially; give all counties similar backroom support and we'll see more even competition on the pitch.

Once there's a decent competition on the pitch with meaningful games the crowds will return.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 354 - 22/11/2024 09:35:45    2580679

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