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That may well be but no matter how long the period is they are still not Irish…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3481 - 20/02/2025 07:07:22 2592009 Link 0 |
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Well we dont have a proper set of rulesto follow so how do you expect people to know what can or cannot be poated The forum should have a stickied post stating all the rules on what can or cannot be poatedand rejected poats should get some form of reasons as to why its not allowsd Like the house rules arevery generic and dont say much KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3721 - 20/02/2025 08:13:04 2592012 Link 1 |
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I know how it works on here, I've been posting for well over a decade now. But why don't you just admit that you are a Trump supporter and you've had your pro Trump posts blocked instead of pretending you know what's happening with other posters replies.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2518 - 20/02/2025 08:15:06 2592013 Link 0 |
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What exactly is the point of all this pontificating on whether players are Irish or not ?? Under present rules, they qualify to play for whichever country they play in, subject to various criteria Most countries take advantage of this rule. I say most as I'm not too sure of the Springboks. So, is a consensus developing amongst us Gaelic games people that the governing body of another sport should only play Irish born players ?? There are 2/3 non native players whose children have been born in Ireland. Would they qualify to play or would we have people saying that they weren't Irish ? I have those brilliant Irish athletes like Rashida in mind when I say this. We have people ( not on here, let me add ) who say that they are not Irish. Just curious is all.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1409 - 20/02/2025 08:25:09 2592014 Link 0 |
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Some of the lads are Irish by blood, parents or grandparents. The others are now all Irish citizens. Their family homes are here. They live here, work here. So what if they weren't born here?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14782 - 20/02/2025 08:35:04 2592015 Link 0 |
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There's a bit of contention over this kind of thing. What does it mean to be Irish? Is there a difference between ethnic Irish and Irish citizenship? There is. Does it matter that much? Not really. Take chin as an example. His father is from Malaysia but his education, friends, clubs, life is no different than any other Wexford lad. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3374 - 20/02/2025 09:02:29 2592017 Link 1 |
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Thankfully I don't live up your end where contrary opinions might trigger a visit from " socialist republicans." or RUC Special Branch, To force me to "admit" to dissent. I am not a Trump supporter but I do agree with him on some things - Ukraine, NGOs, immigration controls. I do not support him on Gaza. As I said here during election his only virtue was that he was not Biden and the destructive Democrats. I have no posts not posted due to "pro Trump" content, as I think moderators would confirm. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3421 - 20/02/2025 09:17:48 2592018 Link 2 |
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They're stopping Irish players playing for Ireland. They improve the standard of the Ireland team temporarily but what about Irish players coming through that won't get a chance because imports who play for the provinces for 5 years get fast tracked into the squad? Not that long ago since Irish players that played abroad wouldn't be picked for Ireland, unless they were Johnny Sexton. Paddy Patterson has played for Leinster, Munster, Ireland U20s. He's not even close to Gibson Park's class and under current rules will almost certainly never play for Ireland. The rule isn't right in any country because it blocks native players from being capped. Three good lads the Kiwis, but they're New Zealanders, they're not Irish. It's called International Rugby, not some lads representing their country and a few other lads, not good enough to play for their national team but took the few quid to play for another country. They wouldn't be playing here if the IRFU didn't incentivize them to do so.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7763 - 20/02/2025 09:21:28 2592019 Link 1 |
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Probably the same reason that the Biden/Harris fans went quiet when they were up to their necks in facilitating genocide in Gaza. Irish people need to wise up and realise that both political parties in America are as hateful as each other.
tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 362 - 20/02/2025 09:42:18 2592021 Link 3 |
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He is certainly right on Ukraine anyway. Professor John Mearsheimer of Chicago and retired US General Douglas Mac Gregor have been outlining the realities and the facts on this war for the past 3 years and longer but when you inhabit propaganda-fed MSM you'll never hear of them! This war could easily have been avoided but granted that it did take place it should have been over in a couple of months. Ukraine and Russia agreed a deal in Istanbul to end the conflict in I think it was May 2022 but Zelensky foolishly listened to that bluffer Boris Johnson who sold them the fantasy that they could win the war. When you follow the word of a bluffer like Johnson you get what you deserve.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1981 - 20/02/2025 09:54:20 2592024 Link 2 |
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Rashida is certainly Irish and nobody could question that but rugby has a tendency to chase non Irish players and cap them ahead of some of the home grown players who may be just as good if not better.. Most of the back room staff are non Irish and they won't even play our National Anthem before away games where it's needed most… just belt out that ridiculous Irelands Call instead…..
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3481 - 20/02/2025 10:16:19 2592027 Link 0 |
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You agreed with him on the Ukraine issue? Good lad Barney, another cracker of a post. Embarrassing.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8247 - 20/02/2025 10:18:15 2592028 Link 1 |
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You can definitely tell you don't live up here if that's what you think the norm is. Probably your problem in life. Blanket judging people because of something you watched in a documentary that happend here in a by gone era. With the exception of a few hard line radicals who rarely venture past their own housing estates, believe it or not, most people up here live and let live and still have fresh memories of a far worse alternative to it all. Ironically, the ones still trying to impose a hard line on alternative opinions would be closely aligned with your anti immigration mates from your own fair city. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2518 - 20/02/2025 10:26:23 2592031 Link 0 |
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They joined provinces here to play professional rugby. They didn't move here to play for Ireland.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14782 - 20/02/2025 10:40:11 2592035 Link 0 |
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So you are saying that Ukraine should rely on the word/good will of Russia and the US? That same superpower good will that they relied on since 1994 to go about their business in peace? The same security assurances, originally provided in the 1994 Budapest memorandum, that were re-affirmed in 2009, only 5 years before Crimea got annexed? You are joking right?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14782 - 20/02/2025 10:43:26 2592036 Link 0 |
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"Irelands Call" didn't come about to facilitate non Irish backroom staff. Some idiotic posts on here this morning.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14782 - 20/02/2025 10:44:46 2592037 Link 0 |
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Think 2 of those players are now actually Irish citizens.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2450 - 20/02/2025 10:47:42 2592041 Link 0 |
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Go on name names of players who were capped ahead of all these better players. It isnt the national anthem for many players/fans and who cares about a bit of music before a game. Its pageantry nothing more. Irelands call is ***** but who cares. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3721 - 20/02/2025 10:48:45 2592042 Link 0 |
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All 3 are. Lowe was the last to get citizenship
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14782 - 20/02/2025 10:52:26 2592043 Link 0 |
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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7763 - 20/02/2025 11:14:06 2592048 Link 0 |