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I think everyone would agree Kevin mcstay a top man and great Gael but it didn't work out for him, he didn't uncover enough players and also didn't embrace the new rules, I follow mayo club football relatively close and there are forwards in the county that should of been called up or had more of a run, mayo have a full back line that are very very good in coyne, mcbrien and brickinden, the likes of towey should of got more game time, also where is the likes of Conor diskin should surely be in the panel, a few of the under 20 forwards should also be drafted, but after the under 20s where out mayo called up defenders which was mad as they where okay in that area, I think mayo should go for a man outside the county that isn't involved in club politics and get a fresh perspective

Liftball (Armagh) - Posts: 36 - 26/06/2025 20:24:53    2621355

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Replying To Square_B:  "And the fact that Andy Moran is second favourite says it all... a man that brought Leitrim to it's worst ever day in GAA history (at the time) & who needed a second intercounty level manager to get him over the line in 2024."
Now now, not so fast! What about Andy shooting the lights in Monaghan.

joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 583 - 26/06/2025 21:43:36    2621374

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Replying To veterngaa:  "Maybe thats the problem, thats your perception. You just don't have the players any more. The boat has sailed. 3 x minor champions in 4 years but only 2 x U20 in 7 years... non stop talk here about you Mayo deserve be at the top table.. Managements fault!

But where is the evidence ? Just because you think so?


McStay couldn't anything when the players crossed the white line."
Who exactly said here that Mayo deserve to be at the top table?! Can you provide some evidence of that?

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 476 - 26/06/2025 22:15:23    2621380

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Replying To Liftball:  "I think everyone would agree Kevin mcstay a top man and great Gael but it didn't work out for him, he didn't uncover enough players and also didn't embrace the new rules, I follow mayo club football relatively close and there are forwards in the county that should of been called up or had more of a run, mayo have a full back line that are very very good in coyne, mcbrien and brickinden, the likes of towey should of got more game time, also where is the likes of Conor diskin should surely be in the panel, a few of the under 20 forwards should also be drafted, but after the under 20s where out mayo called up defenders which was mad as they where okay in that area, I think mayo should go for a man outside the county that isn't involved in club politics and get a fresh perspective"
We have good defenders but collectively, under the new rules, they weren't a good defence. Not sure about Towey. I think he's had enough chances and never been a top forward consistently. Davitt Neary and Fergal Boland should have gotten a lot more gametime in 2025.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8120 - 26/06/2025 23:12:49    2621389

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Picking players that aren't intercounty standard is a problem I think. Is Stephen Coen intercounty standard, for example?"
He is. But he doesn't do spectacular, in many games you might wonder if he even played but he'll be doing the hard yards, motivating team mates, getting stuck in. Smart and underrated.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8120 - 26/06/2025 23:26:13    2621392

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Right decision but poor statement. Its the statement you would expect for a manager that had caused hassle and fallout with the county board, but Kevin McStay has always been a gentleman and respectful in all his media duties.

Its funny that McStays tenure will come down to the finishing of games and not getting the ending right and county board have done the same with his departure.

He played for the county, as had some of his backroom, and his backroom took over in tough situation when McStay fell ill, something that put sport into perspective, wouldnt have been easy for them to keep the show going at the time.

I know theres been reports that McStay didnt want his health mentioned, and they didnt need to mention it in the statement, but a bit more thanks to your own county people that have given all they can for last 3 years and more, even name the coaches and selectors as well.
It kind of reminded me of the Liverpool statement for Trent leaving and they had cause for not giving the best of send offs.

I will add that there was no need for Martys interview on RTE about the statement, thought that was bit over the top.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 647 - 27/06/2025 09:03:41    2621409

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With the greatest of respect to Mayo people I can't ever see them being successful at senior football.

Team managers are fall guys and McStay fell further than most other managers.

The buck stops with the CB full stop.
Mayo are not on their own as their other counties that the same logic applies to that makes it a fruitless exercise.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3200 - 27/06/2025 09:03:44    2621410

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Kevin McStay was one of the few big pundits on rte for football who actually walked the walk and went out and coached inter county teams. There's still some high profile names, not necessarily on rte anymore, firing shots at managers and won't have the gumption to put their names forward for managing. For that he deserves respect.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 09:23:11    2621413

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Replying To joeman123:  "Now now, not so fast! What about Andy shooting the lights in Monaghan."
It's not Andys fault that you lot don't have the players . Look him and Monaghan now they are flying because they DO have the players unlike yourselves !

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 257 - 27/06/2025 09:37:19    2621415

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "Kevin McStay was one of the few big pundits on rte for football who actually walked the walk and went out and coached inter county teams. There's still some high profile names, not necessarily on rte anymore, firing shots at managers and won't have the gumption to put their names forward for managing. For that he deserves respect."
100%. It's easy to be all-knowing from the comfort of the pundit's chair. McStay went out and took on the challenge. As a manager he won a club All-Ireland with Brigid's, a Connacht title with Roscommon and a league title with Mayo, which more than plenty of the talking heads have done.
As a pundit, I always remember him as being fair and decent. He wasn't in the gig to raise his profile by stirring the pot or being personal with criticism.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2411 - 27/06/2025 10:18:57    2621427

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Replying To joeman123:  "Now now, not so fast! What about Andy shooting the lights in Monaghan."
You keep believing that Joe if it helps you overcome your grief on the loss of Andy.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1411 - 27/06/2025 10:29:48    2621430

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "100%. It's easy to be all-knowing from the comfort of the pundit's chair. McStay went out and took on the challenge. As a manager he won a club All-Ireland with Brigid's, a Connacht title with Roscommon and a league title with Mayo, which more than plenty of the talking heads have done.
As a pundit, I always remember him as being fair and decent. He wasn't in the gig to raise his profile by stirring the pot or being personal with criticism."
Unfortunately the deed had to be done.
There was no point in continuing into year 4 with a lame duck management team.
They must have seen the writing on the wall.
The board would have received even more criticism if they left them in place.
A classic no win situation.
Might as well get it done now.
None of this is a reflection on the decency of the Manager and his colleagues. Just life that's all.
Anyone hwo has managed a GAA team, at whatever level, knows

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 356 - 27/06/2025 11:44:08    2621465

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Replying To S1234:  "It's not Andys fault that you lot don't have the players . Look him and Monaghan now they are flying because they DO have the players unlike yourselves !"
Stop ruining every thread by insulting other posters and other counties.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11662 - 27/06/2025 12:26:15    2621479

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Replying To Square_B:  "You keep believing that Joe if it helps you overcome your grief on the loss of Andy."
Square_B - surely your current manager refusing to field a team in the league was an all time low? What did Moran do that was worse than that? Get promotion to Div 3?


McStay managed Roscommon, Rochford coached Donegal, Donie Buckley coached Kerry and Monaghan.
They know the gig they signed up to. They didnt get the results expected in Mayo, nor did they deliver what they promised.
Supposedly the refused to resign. If that is the case, why would you give a gushing statement of praise for someone we all wanted to see the back of?

As of the hulabaloo about a statement removing a professional management team - give it a rest. It wasn't too long ago that a ref would get locked in the boot of a car after a championship match. Now we have a load of keyboard warriors (and ex players who refused to play for this management team) upset about the wording of county board statement.
I have some advise for those of you that have an issue with it.
1. Stand in front of a mirror.
2. Raise a closed fist
3. punch yourself in the face with it.
4. Cop on and toughen up

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1479 - 27/06/2025 12:29:24    2621480

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Replying To S1234:  "It's not Andys fault that you lot don't have the players . Look him and Monaghan now they are flying because they DO have the players unlike yourselves !"
And it isn't Kevin's fault that you lot don't have the players either, see how that works.

Monaghan are a credit, but they've been at the level they're operating at now for many years, nothing has changed in that regard. Let them get to a final, then things will have changed...which I hope they do btw

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 12:50:52    2621490

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Replying To joeman123:  "Now now, not so fast! What about Andy shooting the lights in Monaghan."
Shooting what lights?

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 12:51:42    2621491

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Square_B - surely your current manager refusing to field a team in the league was an all time low? What did Moran do that was worse than that? Get promotion to Div 3?


McStay managed Roscommon, Rochford coached Donegal, Donie Buckley coached Kerry and Monaghan.
They know the gig they signed up to. They didnt get the results expected in Mayo, nor did they deliver what they promised.
Supposedly the refused to resign. If that is the case, why would you give a gushing statement of praise for someone we all wanted to see the back of?

As of the hulabaloo about a statement removing a professional management team - give it a rest. It wasn't too long ago that a ref would get locked in the boot of a car after a championship match. Now we have a load of keyboard warriors (and ex players who refused to play for this management team) upset about the wording of county board statement.
I have some advise for those of you that have an issue with it.
1. Stand in front of a mirror.
2. Raise a closed fist
3. punch yourself in the face with it.
4. Cop on and toughen up"
Seen a few messages about mayo not being at the top table anymore, I disagree, they have a solid team but need scoring forwards, can't rely on rod all the time, seen a few messages about not as good underage as they where once before, that counts for little nowadays, I'm an Armagh man and we never win an championship game at under 20 level for 4 years I think it was, and we got a fair few players from those teams anyways, the last Armagh under 20 team that got to an Ulster final got well beat by Derry and that all Ireland u20 final was the game ye lost to kildare, you got maybe 3 players from that team whereas an Armagh team not as good got loads of players from that squad, Armagh got McCambridge, Conor O'Neill, crealy, Callum O'Neill, mcquillan, Duffy, Rian O'Neill and turbitt from that squad, I think mayo needs to get these under 20 forwards line into the panel straight away, and play them in the league, give them games wheter they play poor or not, who cares if you get relegated, get these lads mins on field against top teams, that's what went wrong with towey, great forward but expected to do it in 5 or 10 mins at end of a game and on his rare starts he knows if he doesn't start well he will be hooked, Boland similar, he should be one of the first names on the team sheet, mayo are not far away imo, I slight adjustment to how they line up and learn to kick more and they could suprise many

Liftball (Armagh) - Posts: 36 - 27/06/2025 12:58:51    2621495

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Genuine Question - and I promise Im not pulling the you know what.

Do Mayo supporters think that McStay et al underachieved? Or is it an honest reflection of where that team is at? Would/Will another manager and backroom team get a better tune would of that team?

Im asking (and trying to be un-biased, listen Im a Galwegian at the end of the day!) but when Mayo had their run of successive Connachts, I think most of us said, "yeah fair enough unfortunatley thats where we are at right now."

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 806 - 27/06/2025 12:59:43    2621496

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "100%. It's easy to be all-knowing from the comfort of the pundit's chair. McStay went out and took on the challenge. As a manager he won a club All-Ireland with Brigid's, a Connacht title with Roscommon and a league title with Mayo, which more than plenty of the talking heads have done.
As a pundit, I always remember him as being fair and decent. He wasn't in the gig to raise his profile by stirring the pot or being personal with criticism."
He was a decent pundit for sure, I'd expect he might get that gig again if he wants it, but maybe not.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 27/06/2025 13:01:55    2621497

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Stop ruining every thread by insulting other posters and other counties."
Well posted Yew, the best post on Hoganstand for a long time. I wish the Admin would address her nonsensical musings as S1234 and JimB1991.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 851 - 27/06/2025 13:22:59    2621505

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