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Best of luck to the lads Saturday evening, Kildare will be no pushovers at home but hopefully a good contest

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 325 - 09/04/2025 14:15:11    2601236

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Replying To Darragh:  "Just one question then.....if an injury happened to a first team player would this dream of a Junior medal go away very quickly if they were added to the senior squad. I don't think anything will change with Junior championships anyway but this whole exchange has highlighted how the big clubs are treated versus the small clubs. When it comes to tickets for a house in Spain we will all become equals again

Just for one final time though. No player in any senior second team will ever value the Junior 1 Championship as much as a player from a sole Junior 1 club. In no way am I being negative to any second team player but it's wrong to suggest they are the same"
I never said it's the same but it still means an awful lot. I was agreeing with the end of that comment. Lads on the junior panel wouldn't be in the top 21/22 of the senior panel. So it would take an awful lot of injuries for that to happen but the junior team means an awful lot to the people involved even if it is a stepping stone. In fact a lot of players have made minor cameo appearances in senior and it's ruined their year at junior. As you say nothings going to change anyways.

Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 241 - 09/04/2025 15:04:04    2601244

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How are small clubs treated badly compared to bigger clubs?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2116 - 09/04/2025 18:35:58    2601278

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "How are small clubs treated badly compared to bigger clubs?"
Junior 1 is a good example but listen it won't change so don't worry, nothing will change for St Lomans

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 325 - 09/04/2025 19:21:47    2601281

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Replying To Darragh:  "Junior 1 is a good example but listen it won't change so don't worry, nothing will change for St Lomans"
Any possibility you could answer the question?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2116 - 09/04/2025 22:42:23    2601308

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Tough night for the 20s, a strong first half but ultimately couldn't compete with Dublins physicality and running power in the final quarter, you would like to see a number of those players brought into a senior panel and developed over the next 2-3 years; I think that's where we fall down. Is there any continuity for lads who are eligible next year in terms of S&C or do they just go back to the clubs until next year again. I know they enter the B tournament which they could go far in but I'm sure the same hunger won't exist.

OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 54 - 10/04/2025 07:17:27    2601324

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Replying To Darragh:  "Junior 1 is a good example but listen it won't change so don't worry, nothing will change for St Lomans"
What has the structure to do with St Lomans more than any other club

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 267 - 10/04/2025 08:07:39    2601326

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There never seemed to be an issue with junior championship structure over the past number of years, even when garrycastle and shamrocks 2nd teams won it going back a few years. Now that the 2nd teams of lomans, shamrocks and the downs are going well in the leagues I think a few junior clubs are starting to worry. It's all fair when it's going their way but once the tide turns that's when there's problems for the sole junior clubs!

Tailteannchamps (Westmeath) - Posts: 37 - 10/04/2025 12:08:21    2601363

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John Heslin back in?

Lakers.for.Sam (Westmeath) - Posts: 85 - 10/04/2025 12:45:57    2601366

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I see from the managers comments it looks like a lot of the injured players from the league are still doubts for Saturday. Is Drumm back with the squad and in contention to play ? I think it will be a proper 50/50 game and we need everyone. Kildare are a big team so kick outs will be a big aspect of the game.

Lakecounty94 (Westmeath) - Posts: 78 - 10/04/2025 13:11:20    2601369

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Replying To Tailteannchamps:  "There never seemed to be an issue with junior championship structure over the past number of years, even when garrycastle and shamrocks 2nd teams won it going back a few years. Now that the 2nd teams of lomans, shamrocks and the downs are going well in the leagues I think a few junior clubs are starting to worry. It's all fair when it's going their way but once the tide turns that's when there's problems for the sole junior clubs!"
League placings have no bearing on the Championship. St Loman's and Shamrocks have players mixing it between Division 1 and 2. Many of these players will be ineligible to play Junior Championship. Senior club 2nd strings are not as strong as people may think. CCFW were in Div 5 last year and were by far the best team in the Junior Championship.

iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 146 - 10/04/2025 13:59:31    2601378

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Replying To Tailteannchamps:  "There never seemed to be an issue with junior championship structure over the past number of years, even when garrycastle and shamrocks 2nd teams won it going back a few years. Now that the 2nd teams of lomans, shamrocks and the downs are going well in the leagues I think a few junior clubs are starting to worry. It's all fair when it's going their way but once the tide turns that's when there's problems for the sole junior clubs!"
That's not true. If you asked any Junior club at any time they would say they want their own championship and not this. Nothing to do with leagues lads it's just an opinion. When it comes to fairness and competition integrity then yes Junior clubs are disadvantaged

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 325 - 10/04/2025 14:12:32    2601381

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Replying To Thechick:  "What has the structure to do with St Lomans more than any other club"
It was just a response to the poster in question. Same rules for all second teams as that obviously needs to be clarified

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 325 - 10/04/2025 14:13:21    2601382

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Any possibility you could answer the question?"
Going back through your posts and I have decided it's best not to continue this further. I have detailed how Junior clubs are disadvantaged but I don't expect it to change

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 325 - 10/04/2025 14:14:30    2601383

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Replying To Lakers.for.Sam:  "John Heslin back in?"
He's down to do punditry on Gaa+ so seems unlikely.

iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 277 - 10/04/2025 14:46:09    2601391

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Replying To Lakers.for.Sam:  "John Heslin back in?"
Where did you get that from? GAA plus announced him as a pundit today

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 10/04/2025 15:24:13    2601401

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Replying To Darragh:  "Going back through your posts and I have decided it's best not to continue this further. I have detailed how Junior clubs are disadvantaged but I don't expect it to change"
You are unable to answer the question so best leave it.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2116 - 10/04/2025 16:35:39    2601415

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "You are unable to answer the question so best leave it."
I am a fellow Westmeath Gael and my point was genuine. I do not believe your responses are. That being said the structure of the championships itself is one place to start levelling field. Moate are on the same side as the sole Junior 1 teams and could field drastically different teams in round 1 to round 5. What if in round 1 they have their full pick of both 1st and 2nd teams and play their best possible Junior 1 team. By the time round 5 comes along they could be pushing for a senior knockout place and also dealing with a rash of injuries/players emigrate etc. Round 5 team then becomes a shadow of the round 1 team. To the teams they play this could mean the difference in making a quarter final or avoiding a relationship playoff

Again though, I dont expect change

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 325 - 10/04/2025 17:45:12    2601427

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Excellent win for the minors tonight., played some really good football. Loads of talent in this team to go further , the win guarantees a preliminary quarter final against Carlow, Wicklow or Wexford, correct me if Im wrong. Of course if we beat Kildare away next week were straight to a quarter final. A great confidence booster going to Newbridge either way. The Westmeath scorers tonight-W Scahill 2-4, J Duignan 1-4 D Kelly 0-3, S Whittaker 0-2 R McCaul 0-1 D Burke 0-1

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 293 - 10/04/2025 21:20:57    2601443

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Kildare beat Meath in same group tonight so they're definitely through but a defeat in Newbridge next week and a win for Longford vs Meath would see Westmeath eliminated on head to head with Meath. Minor results can be unpredictable as tonight's results showed. Offaly had a very fancied minor team but well beaten tonight by Louth and on verge of elimination

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2116 - 10/04/2025 22:47:09    2601455

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