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Replying To Fionn: "Exactly - that has to be the priority. Possibly even at the expense of our Division 1 status, where there will be a lot of tweaking of the squad and our tactics." Do you thibk kerry would be favourites next ueat Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 881 - 04/08/2025 11:37:08 2630006 Link
Replying To Gaaforlife2023: "Do you thibk kerry would be favourites next ueat" Without a shadow of a doubt. They have the best forwards and the best squad. JmcG had his ass handed to him in the AI Final. Slightly over hyped as a manager imo. Sorry Donegal fans. And I am not the only one who thinks it, apparently. Jack gave him a lesson in tactics, and never needed to hit top gear at all in the Final. The A.I. winner was always gonna come from the Kerry v Armagh game and look how Armagh fared in that encounter. I think a lot of managers and squads are going to have to go back to the drawing board for next season if they wish to get anywhere near Jack's team. Otherwise it will be a procession. As for Dublin the best we can hope for will be Leinster. I reckon we could get relegated in order to get it right for the Leinster campaign tbh. Especially with no O'Byrne Cup anymore, to try things out. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4576 - 04/08/2025 18:04:36 2630043 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Without a shadow of a doubt. They have the best forwards and the best squad. JmcG had his ass handed to him in the AI Final. Slightly over hyped as a manager imo. Sorry Donegal fans. And I am not the only one who thinks it, apparently. Jack gave him a lesson in tactics, and never needed to hit top gear at all in the Final. The A.I. winner was always gonna come from the Kerry v Armagh game and look how Armagh fared in that encounter. I think a lot of managers and squads are going to have to go back to the drawing board for next season if they wish to get anywhere near Jack's team. Otherwise it will be a procession. As for Dublin the best we can hope for will be Leinster. I reckon we could get relegated in order to get it right for the Leinster campaign tbh. Especially with no O'Byrne Cup anymore, to try things out." Agree about Jim McGuinness. Overhyped before the Final. He manages his teams to a very high level of fitness and that overruns most teams. Interesting that it was in the second half that Donegal took over against both Monaghan and Meath. More was needed in the Final and McGuinness was out thought by Jack O'Connor as he had been out thought by Eamon Fitzmaurice in the 2014 Final. I wouldn't rule Dublin out of anything next year. A new management will freshen things up and I doubt Dublin will be far off. Leinster should be competitive because Meath are a young team that will only get better. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2572 - 04/08/2025 18:45:02 2630052 Link
Replying To Gaaforlife2023: "Do you thibk kerry would be favourites next ueat" Kerry will absolutely be favourites next year. Their panel will actually be stronger next year assuming no injury crisis. Diarmuid O'Connor is their best midfielder. Tom Sullivan one of their best backs. Paul Geaney was flying before his injury. Obviously no guarantees they'll win though. Back-to-backs notoriously difficult. Only two teams have done it in 35 years. Hunger and motivation normally drops a little and that's enough to tip the balance against the stronger counties. Jack leaving would create uncertainty also as there's no obvious replacement. Eamon Fitzmaurice maybe. HolyGhost (Kerry) - Posts: 17 - 04/08/2025 20:03:21 2630058 Link
Replying To endgame: "Agree about Jim McGuinness. Overhyped before the Final. He manages his teams to a very high level of fitness and that overruns most teams. Interesting that it was in the second half that Donegal took over against both Monaghan and Meath. More was needed in the Final and McGuinness was out thought by Jack O'Connor as he had been out thought by Eamon Fitzmaurice in the 2014 Final. I wouldn't rule Dublin out of anything next year. A new management will freshen things up and I doubt Dublin will be far off. Leinster should be competitive because Meath are a young team that will only get better." Well we need something new because apparently and according to our last manager, we don't have a single player in our entire squad who is able to kick 2 pointers.... Don't get me started again on that crazy comment,.... If Galway had a different manager, I think they could be challenging for Sam tbh. But one team is quite a bit ahead of the chasing pack and they have players to come back into that team also. 3 Provinces will be competitive next season and it is good that Leinster is, once again. It makes a massive difference when planning for silverware and for Sam, and timing your run perfectly. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4576 - 04/08/2025 20:38:48 2630060 Link
Replying To HolyGhost: "Kerry will absolutely be favourites next year. Their panel will actually be stronger next year assuming no injury crisis. Diarmuid O'Connor is their best midfielder. Tom Sullivan one of their best backs. Paul Geaney was flying before his injury. Obviously no guarantees they'll win though. Back-to-backs notoriously difficult. Only two teams have done it in 35 years. Hunger and motivation normally drops a little and that's enough to tip the balance against the stronger counties. Jack leaving would create uncertainty also as there's no obvious replacement. Eamon Fitzmaurice maybe." "Only two teams have done it in 35 years." Four teams have done it in less than 40 years...which averages out at about a back-to-back a decade. Actually, there has been back to back winners in every decade since the GAA was founded bar the 90's, so I while I would say it is difficult to do, it is not notoriously difficult to do. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2356 - 04/08/2025 20:59:39 2630064 Link
Replying To HolyGhost: "Kerry will absolutely be favourites next year. Their panel will actually be stronger next year assuming no injury crisis. Diarmuid O'Connor is their best midfielder. Tom Sullivan one of their best backs. Paul Geaney was flying before his injury. Obviously no guarantees they'll win though. Back-to-backs notoriously difficult. Only two teams have done it in 35 years. Hunger and motivation normally drops a little and that's enough to tip the balance against the stronger counties. Jack leaving would create uncertainty also as there's no obvious replacement. Eamon Fitzmaurice maybe." Dubs have done and kerry 2006 07 did you forget that one Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 881 - 04/08/2025 22:01:05 2630073 Link
Replying To HolyGhost: "Kerry will absolutely be favourites next year. Their panel will actually be stronger next year assuming no injury crisis. Diarmuid O'Connor is their best midfielder. Tom Sullivan one of their best backs. Paul Geaney was flying before his injury. Obviously no guarantees they'll win though. Back-to-backs notoriously difficult. Only two teams have done it in 35 years. Hunger and motivation normally drops a little and that's enough to tip the balance against the stronger counties. Jack leaving would create uncertainty also as there's no obvious replacement. Eamon Fitzmaurice maybe." Back to backs are a doddle, sure didn't Dublin do 5 back to backs in a row between 2016 to 2020. If this Kerry team are as good as people are saying it shouldn't be an issue to do at least one should it? After all, don't they have the so called goat who's been milked to death at this stage! Would anything less than at least a back to back for this current Kerry team be considered as under achievement? Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 349 - 04/08/2025 22:04:58 2630074 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Without a shadow of a doubt. They have the best forwards and the best squad. JmcG had his ass handed to him in the AI Final. Slightly over hyped as a manager imo. Sorry Donegal fans. And I am not the only one who thinks it, apparently. Jack gave him a lesson in tactics, and never needed to hit top gear at all in the Final. The A.I. winner was always gonna come from the Kerry v Armagh game and look how Armagh fared in that encounter. I think a lot of managers and squads are going to have to go back to the drawing board for next season if they wish to get anywhere near Jack's team. Otherwise it will be a procession. As for Dublin the best we can hope for will be Leinster. I reckon we could get relegated in order to get it right for the Leinster campaign tbh. Especially with no O'Byrne Cup anymore, to try things out." McGuinness hype justified regardless of the poor 1st half in the All-Ireland final. (2nd half was 1-9 to 0-9 and the goal was the last score of the game) All-Ireland semi-finalists All-Ireland winners All-Ireland Quarter finalists All-Ireland finalists All-Ireland semi-finalists All-Ireland finalists Is his record as Donegal manager and Donegal in their history without him reached one All-Ireland final back in 1992. To get them back in this year final after they were a mess in 2023 is still some going. Armagh had issues defensively and kick outs which Kerry could exploit to the max with these new rules. Things will become more open for 2026 shoud Kerry lose Jack O'Connor. Agreed on Dublin, new manager should target Leinster. Main contenders are Louth,Meath and maybe Kildare all Div 2 teams next year and will any of three gain promotion before Derry,Tyrone? Transition and plenty of rebuilding for Dublin to do before becoming a serious challenger for Sam again. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3739 - 04/08/2025 22:21:35 2630079 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: ""Only two teams have done it in 35 years." Four teams have done it in less than 40 years...which averages out at about a back-to-back a decade. Actually, there has been back to back winners in every decade since the GAA was founded bar the 90's, so I while I would say it is difficult to do, it is not notoriously difficult to do." We'll agree that it's difficult to do. Lots of very good teams in those 35 years couldn't do it. Kerry will be highly motivated though I think. Winning the 40th I think will be a big deal in Kerry. The 30th was won 40 years ago. It could be another 40 years to the 50th. HolyGhost (Kerry) - Posts: 17 - 04/08/2025 22:58:07 2630086 Link
I was looking at the attendance figures for the last few Ladies All Ireland Finals:- 2025 Dublin v Meath 48,089 2024 Galway v Kerry 30,340 2023 Dublin v Kerry 46,002 2022 Meath v Kerry 46,440 2021 Dublin v Meath 32,003 2019 Dublin v Galway 56,114 2018 Dublin v Cork 50,141 2017 Dublin v Mayo 46,281 2016 Dublin v Cork 34,445 2015 Dublin v Cork 31,083 Not bad at all in fairness. Now if they could only get the correct team jerseys on the Hill in place, for Final day.... Fairly embarrassing mistake. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4576 - 05/08/2025 11:01:02 2630117 Link
Fellow Dubs - We have White Smoke......! As I mentioned previously, as soon as the Ladies Final was over, and the winning celebrations tonight in Smithfield are concluded, the announcement will be imminent. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4576 - 05/08/2025 12:54:43 2630140 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Fellow Dubs - We have White Smoke......! As I mentioned previously, as soon as the Ladies Final was over, and the winning celebrations tonight in Smithfield are concluded, the announcement will be imminent." Would be really happy with this appointment and good to see things won't be dragging on into the Autumn without a new man in. Looking forward to hearing a new voice and seeing new ideas brought to the table. I know the rest of the country had a pain in their backsides seeing Dublin at the top for so long but I for one am gasping to see us back competing in finals. Those lofty days of the 6 in a row are quickly forgotten when you see Kerry lifting Sam!! TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 310 - 05/08/2025 13:49:59 2630158 Link
Replying To TrueBlue35: "Would be really happy with this appointment and good to see things won't be dragging on into the Autumn without a new man in. Looking forward to hearing a new voice and seeing new ideas brought to the table. I know the rest of the country had a pain in their backsides seeing Dublin at the top for so long but I for one am gasping to see us back competing in finals. Those lofty days of the 6 in a row are quickly forgotten when you see Kerry lifting Sam!!" Those lofty days are never forgotten.... ;o) 9 All Ireland wins. 8 in a decade. 5 in a row started and completed by beating Kerry. 6 in a row achieved. And probably the sweetest of them all 2 years ago. If we don't win it for a while, I just hope Mayo get over the line finally. Failing that, hopefully someone new can win it, eg Galway or Derry or Donegal. And similarly in the Hurling. It would be nice for someone new to win it. As for the new Dubs manager - he has a hell of a job in front of him.... But hearing the backroom team assembled - he hopefully has the right men behind him. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4576 - 05/08/2025 14:09:11 2630165 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Fellow Dubs - We have White Smoke......! As I mentioned previously, as soon as the Ladies Final was over, and the winning celebrations tonight in Smithfield are concluded, the announcement will be imminent." Sub committee to select the new manager is only being formed tonight! Not saying that the manager may not be already picked :) Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 205 - 05/08/2025 14:42:52 2630170 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Those lofty days are never forgotten.... ;o) 9 All Ireland wins. 8 in a decade. 5 in a row started and completed by beating Kerry. 6 in a row achieved. And probably the sweetest of them all 2 years ago. If we don't win it for a while, I just hope Mayo get over the line finally. Failing that, hopefully someone new can win it, eg Galway or Derry or Donegal. And similarly in the Hurling. It would be nice for someone new to win it. As for the new Dubs manager - he has a hell of a job in front of him.... But hearing the backroom team assembled - he hopefully has the right men behind him." Kerry will dominate for a few years anyway. Still strong underage despite not winning. I think they'll be hungry and motivated to win the 40th next year. I think Jack O'Connor will stay on one more year to achieve this. Tyrone and Derry looking strong underage so should be a force in a couple of years. Dublin need a new manager to build a hungry young panel with a few older players also. HolyGhost (Kerry) - Posts: 17 - 05/08/2025 14:59:31 2630171 Link
Replying To HolyGhost: "Kerry will dominate for a few years anyway. Still strong underage despite not winning. I think they'll be hungry and motivated to win the 40th next year. I think Jack O'Connor will stay on one more year to achieve this. Tyrone and Derry looking strong underage so should be a force in a couple of years. Dublin need a new manager to build a hungry young panel with a few older players also." Think you are spot on tbh. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4576 - 05/08/2025 15:14:00 2630175 Link
Replying To Torcaill: "Sub committee to select the new manager is only being formed tonight! Not saying that the manager may not be already picked :)" Yep a done deal already... The other main candidate has accepted a high profile job with a certain university in Dublin. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4576 - 05/08/2025 15:15:39 2630176 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Yep a done deal already... The other main candidate has accepted a high profile job with a certain university in Dublin." Hearing the same rumour, it's all around Dublin, to be ratified tonight apparently, TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4528 - 05/08/2025 20:08:20 2630199 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Yep a done deal already... The other main candidate has accepted a high profile job with a certain university in Dublin." Who's the other main candidate? You can just name people. It's hardly a state secret. HolyGhost (Kerry) - Posts: 17 - 05/08/2025 21:06:18 2630200 Link